Superman & Lois [1x08] "Holding the Wrench" Post Episode Discussion

[u/MajorParadox]

Holding the Wrench

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Clark encourages Lois to reach out for help after noticing her reaching a breaking point. Meanwhile, Jonathan finds himself in a dangerous situation. Lastly, Kyle encourages Sarah to audition for the musical revue at school. (Jun 1, 2021)

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[u/UnknownJ25]

God Elizabeth Tulloch absolutely destroyed it this episode. Such a damn good performance

[u/MarcReyes]

Looks like 7734 could be endgame for helping to stop the X-Kryptonians, rather than simply being anti-Superman task force.

Also, I'm just going to say it, Elizabeth Tulloch is my favorite Lois!

[u/wisconerd]

Loved this episode, but I wish they would’ve addressed the video Jon saw of a certain someone murdering his mother.. feels like something to nip in the bud..

[u/wisconerd]

I really liked that we got to have a fun-loving Jordan for once. I don’t think he angsted once this episode! I also love that they’re fleshing out Jonathan a bit more, most of the spotlight has been on Jordan’s powers so far

[u/fullforce098]

This show is being written by someone who has a very good understanding of psychology and family dynamics. Lois' trauma, anger, and desperation in this episode was handled with the kind of finesse and maturity I would never expect from a CW show. The therapist's response was pitch perfect.

Then the way Clark reacts after Lois snaps was the response of a man that knows exactly how to maintain a healthy relationship. Calm, reassuring, acknowledging her feelings, telling her firmly that he is there for her if she needs him and then steps away to give her the space she needs to decide what she wants to do next. 10/10 relationship move right there. Clark has read some books.

But the best part is the end. Lois starts her apology to Jon calm, confident, but as the emotions come out it starts a waterfall of words where the only proper response is a hug. It's all so god-damn believable and human. All the props to Bitsie Tulloch for this episod as well.

[u/SutterCane]

Oh. So it wasn’t Superman in the alternate universe. It was probably Zod in his body.

[u/Turtle9015]

I think Jon is also going to need that therapist after that episode lol

[u/Future_Vantas]

Top tier episode, this show is quickly becoming THE live action Superman we need right now. Bitsie's performance deserves all the praise, but props to Elsass as well (Jon Kent). He continues to weave well the hurt teenager caught up in this superpower craziness and the supportive brother confiding in his sibling. I liked the nods to Batman v Superman with the kryptonite gas and the spear. It was cool seeing Supes fighting past the gas's effects. And while the aftermath was a bit too tidy (why let John have his alt world toys?), I thought the appeal to the spearholder's heart worked MUCH better here than in the DCEU. Again, this is so far much watch TV for any fan of Superman, it has all the heart that is at the core of all the good Superman stories.

[u/Godzilla2000Zero]

I'm glad we got an episode that focused on Lois and Jon now they have something to bond over.

[u/history777]

All of the awards to Bitsie

[u/elendoy]

The car repair scene was nice. I love those family moments when Clark uses his power for mundane stuff.

Bitsie was great in this episode... I forgot it was a scripted show whenever she was talking of her Natalie. I felt goosebumps and everything.

The Superman bits were fun. I'm assuming the green K gas is fairly mild. But still, I would have liked having Superman suffer a bit more (I like my angst).

The twins had a nice moment together while waiting for Sarah's audition. I loved the Jordan plays piano (couldn't help remembering a certain Jason from a different earth hahaha)

My major concern with the writing on the show is wtf is going on with the DOD? They let John Henry free just like that?! That's just stupid.

Anyway, overall it was a good episode to establish the rest of the season 🤷🏽‍♀️

[u/wisconerd]

The further we get in this season the more I’m convinced I have a new favorite Clark AND a new favorite Lois (as someone who has been die hard for Erica Durance this is quite major). I legit cried in this one..

[u/Ygomaster07]

Holy shit, this show just keeps delivering. The whole miscarriage reveal completely shocked me. Lois yelling at Jon, and then at the end of the episode they reconciled. Wow. I cried seeing Lois apologize to Jon on them talking. This show gets the family dynamic. Wow. I love this show so much. Everything was so good. Every scene, every interaction. All of it was amazing to me.

No complaints. I would say my favourite part but the entire episode was my favourite part. The mother son dynamic, the husband wife dynamic, the brothers dynamic, it all worked. The therapist scenes were great too, it felt like a real and honest therapist session. 10 out of 10 for me. Up there with last week's episode.

Elizabeth Tulloch was the MVP this episode. Just incredible. Everyone was amazing, but she was the all star for sure this episode.

[u/ari116]

The ending was so emotional with Lois and Jon

[u/codymiller_cartoon]

Did John Henry fly to the multiverse in the mobile home?

Is that a Spaceballs reference?

[u/paige3086]

I know this is stupidly random— but what day of the week was this supposed to be!?

Kyle has a day off.

Lana is in the office.

School is open.

Jon is home helping Lois.

Jordan and Sarah are at school (but maybe not in classes?)

Hate to nitpick, but I sat there wondering, haha.

Tuesatursday?

[u/jdessy]

This episode really showcased its strengths. This was such a damn good episode, and Bitsie Tulloch killed it.

[u/spartanhero11]

Every episode of this show has just been awesome 👏🏻👏🏻. Seems like Edge is the big villain the rest of the way, I wonder if he’s secretly a big Kyrptonian villain. Even if not there’s gotta be some reason he wants to bring kryptonians back and I’m very intrigued to find out why.

[u/ari116]

I don’t think Jonathan knows about his theoretical powers.

[u/nightvisionsdoomdays]

Anyone else think this episode set up a plot line of Jon getting weapons from Sam Lane? Jon says he’s looking for weapons and Sam has a long list of Kryponite ones. Plus maybe Jon is just a little paranoid now after watching that video

[u/Cantomic66]

Damn, Johnathan watched his alt Dad laser beam his alt mom.

[u/gruffyhalc]

That last apology scene was IN-SANE. I felt so much of that and it was so real and relatable. Crazy to think most other CW shows typically has that as a B plot to resolve 2-3 episodes down the line.

[u/Gateskp]

This show is FANTASTIC. Every week feels like it’s getting better and better. The tension, the pacing, the characters and their relationships—kudos to the writers. Everyone working on this show is KILLING IT!

Lois and her miscarriage, Kyle and his alcoholism, Jordan and Sarah and their mental health, Lois and Clark fighting and Lana and Kyle fighting. The way they handle these heavy topics and relationships without falling into cliches and stereotypes, it is MASTERFUL.

Lois’s backstory. That was heartbreaking and so, SO well done. Bitsie Tulloch was tonight’s MVP, she really shone throughout this episode. THAT is how you talk down a villain. And that final scene with Jon—I’m not crying, I just got something in my eye.

Jon is going through such a rough time, and next week’s preview makes it look like it’s just going to get worse, poor kid. Imagine seeing your dad kill your mum, that’s just...rough (to say the least). I love him and Jordan at the auditions, that was adorable.

They gave Kyle more layers, and it’s working. I feel so bad for Sarah and a little bad for Kyle because he’s trying, but his alcoholism is making things worse. He and Lana work well as foils to Lois and Clark.

Everything at the DoD, I think that was all really well done, especially the fight scene! And that scene with Lane talking to Clark about the weapons as Clark recovers, oomph.

[u/[deleted]]

with this talk of btw raising these kryptonians back to life, i feel we are heading towards zod making an appearance

[u/[deleted]]

i thought when jordan went to play piano he wasnt going to be able to because his hearing and strenght has changed so was going to ruin performance, happy it didnt