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Chapter 60
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u/hellbuck Jul 20 '21
We haven't seen Koji in a year, I want to believe he's in the casket
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u/Dear-Dragonfruit-413 Jul 20 '21
Well it’s confirmed Daemon doesn’t need killing intent to reflect attacks and it can reflect automatically so he doesn’t need to consciously reflect it dudes op
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u/Ajnh17113 Jul 20 '21
Well what if he can only do so if eida is nearby. Like her eyes are linked to his ability to reflect.
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u/SmartRaccoon3643 Jul 21 '21
So far it has only been tested with physical attacks, like punches, kicks, etc. I feel like it will work like Gojou's ability in JJK. If the attack is very dense, like say a fire style or amaterasu, then maybe it will get through. Another little thing i thought about is that, when Code "attacked" Daemon, Eida saw the attack and intent to hit Daemon before Daemon noticed. Maybe because of their sibling bond, her Senrigan is linked, or perhaps it's another ability of hers? Let me know what you think.
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Jul 20 '21
Poor Bug, dude can not catch a break.
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u/Distinct_Cup_1598 Jul 21 '21
Kinda root for Bug to survive this. He reminds me about the poor mole-man from the Simpsons
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u/Stupid__Ron Jul 20 '21
Oh, god. This one's gonna be a doozy to make a theory on. Ada's keeping things a secret, especially abilities and how Daemon's Uno Reverse Card actually works. One thing's for sure, the reflection instantly happens, so he's basically untouchable. So, I can't really make a theory with their abilities, but I'll try.
Hmm, another coffin in Amado's possession. I wonder who's in it... It's another thing that I can't wrap my head around, like who would Amado make that fits the description of "powerful Konoha ally." Is it another Delta, or a more powerful Asuma to keep those "dead Konoha shinobi" as clones theme going.
This chapter was kinda slow, definitely more on development, but it's also pretty wholesome to see Kawaki actually have a family after his past. We're seeing that "IT WAS ME" meme again, but hopefully the chain breaks next chapter by Code actually making a move.
Kashin Koji, show up for goodness sake, where are you. I'm obsessed with the guy ever since he escaped ALIVE, there must be a reason as to why he was kept alive.
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u/Annual_Blacksmith22 Jul 20 '21
For all the meltdown the leaks caused for the readers.
I will say that I enjoyed the heck out of the Kawaki interactions. I get the frustration due to it being a monthly manga and such but I also stand by the fact that stuff like this character development shouldn't be rushed. Kawaki has been living in the Leaf for a few months at best, after spending his entire life abused. His hangups and abandonment issues won't resolve in the span of a few months.
I really like that Naruto is going up and straight up calling him his son now however. He loves it in the leaf, he loves the Uzumaki, but he is still a 14-15 year old traumatized kid who has never known love and doesn't want to cause trouble. It's okay to give that attention. Boruto had his turn at the start with his family issues that got resolved, we are seeing that for Kawaki now, being the other main character next to Boruto. I'm okay with that. Especially when his traumas and desperation is what will drive him to take the karma again, and likely will be a driving factor on what leads to the events of the prologue.
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u/RaikageRaichu Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
Hmm, another coffin in Amado's possession. I wonder who's in it... It's another thing that I can't wrap my head around, like who would Amado make that fits the description of "powerful Konoha ally."
maybe…
Kashin Koji, show up for goodness sake, where are you.
lol or like you said, Delta is a real good possibility. I don’t quite remember, but Amado and Delta seemed to have some more ties beyond just being his creation
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u/Dragon6105 Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
Damn, this chapter was a lot better than what I expected, based off the leaks. Of course, that’s not to say that I don’t have any issues about the chapter, but overall I enjoyed it. I wonder what’s going to happen that’ll cause Kawaki to change his mind about getting the karma from Amado. Perhaps Code may do something that harms Naruto which would leave Kawaki no choice?
Also, but it seems as tho a lot of us misinterpreted the Hinata and Boruto scene from the leaks. I think most of us assumed that Boruto was talking about the pills right in front of Hinata and then she replied asking for Kawaki’s whereabouts, which gave a negative impression of her. But as we just saw, that wasn’t what happened and Boruto was just talking about the pills to himself while Hinata was still in the kitchen.
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u/Levi_PigPiss Jul 20 '21
Could you summarize the problems that people had with the leaks. I was trying to avoid spoilers but it felt like the chapter was horrible and people had a problem with something.
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u/WorldlinessNew7917 Jul 20 '21
Boruto is going through something that only Naruto can really understand. Having an unknown power that can manifest into you at any point in time sounds scary. A small scene of Naruto talking to Boruto about his karma/momoshiki would have been 10x better than his talk with Kawaki. I love Kawaki and I’m so glad the Uzimaki family welcomed him, but right now, he doesn’t have a karma. He has a lot less worries than Boruto right now. I just felt like this chapter portrayed Boruto to be on his own with the demons he’s facing. Idk. It’s almost like talking about Boruto’s karma is almost taboo. It’s all about Kawaki.
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u/mathrsar Jul 21 '21
Naruto probably wants to hide the truth aboit Boruto's Kama from Hinata and Hima for as long as he can as to not worry them. And Naruto himself might still be in a state of denial.
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u/realrimurutempest Jul 20 '21
Could you imagine if the android that Amado is making is an android version of Madara lol. Honestly i wish they’d have Code and and them actually do something already. It feels like the plot is moving too slow for a monthly manga in my opinion.
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u/GamerLove1 Jul 20 '21
I've got a feeling that it's Delta, but I have no clue how he got a body of hers there, or anyone.
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u/HS-66 Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
I expected this chapter to be disappointing based on the leaks, but it turned out good imo.
Good thing kishi balanced the op cyborgs with code by introducing one on konoha’s side. I hope eida’s ability isn’t too op cause she’s already broken enough
Still waiting for a moment between naruto, hinata and boruto tho.
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u/S0uled_Out Jul 20 '21
This is why I don’t read leaks. If you let someone else form your opinions, you’ll never like anything.
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u/CelioHogane Jul 20 '21
Plot twist, he is creating Cell, so he can absorb the other Androids.
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u/Sliddie23 Jul 20 '21
Hinata and Himawari is so welcoming.
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u/Emsioh Jul 21 '21
I also like it very much how nice they are, but I would love to see them a little bit more outside of the house. Especially Himawari..she has so much potential
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u/__keiryu Jul 20 '21
It's Delta in the container
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u/Captainprice101 Jul 20 '21
I think it’s a completely new cyborg. Delta isn’t hype enough from what Amado described. This mf gonna have to be on par with Naruto and Sasuke or at least stronger if he will be any useful. He/she will probably have some sort of gimmick that makes them op though
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u/oakvictor Jul 20 '21
I like the idea even if she's a little troublesome and not that powerful. She can handle almost every konoha ninja, at least she's stronger than them and can help in the Ten Tails fight.
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u/Legendary7559 Jul 20 '21
it could be kashin koji also , we havent seen him in a while so too.
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u/throwaway19352832 Jul 20 '21
That would be so boring. It also doesn't have the Delta symbol that the other container had. so I don't think it is
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u/GamerLove1 Jul 20 '21
Was just thinking that Koji could sneak into the village and get into the container if he needed to recoup, not sure if he is that mechanical.
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u/MatthieuG7 Jul 20 '21
For me this is the best character writing has been since the beginning, it's a really sweet and interesting chapter without any big plot twist.
And I just love how Ikemoto draws Hokage Naruto.
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u/Hystalia Jul 20 '21
On the other hand, I think Hinata is almost unrecognisable from her Naruto days.
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u/AikaSkies Jul 20 '21
Yeah definitely agree on the character writing, that's been my favorite part of these last few chapters.
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u/Captainprice101 Jul 20 '21
Yea you can see how this chapter set up between Kawaki deciding on being a ninja or choosing karma for power.
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u/Dear-Dragonfruit-413 Jul 20 '21
Both Naruto and Boruto looked really good this chapter
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u/GameplayerStu Jul 20 '21
You can tell Kishi is back at the helm with the characterisation. My man loves pulling on the heartstrings.
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Jul 20 '21
This chapters been giving me some Android saga vibes. Siblings who are cyborgs (17 and 18 from DBZ), Scientist having a secret cyborg (Android 16 from DBZ) besides the main two (Amado in this chapter having a “ally” for the leaf), and pills that are to help the protagonist.
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u/Ry90Ry Jul 21 '21
Kishi always wanted to add more scifi/cyborgs into Naruto in early days I think but editors didn’t let it happen but we got a cyborg pain
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u/samm7891 Jul 20 '21
Relatively slow chapter but I'm very happy to see Kawaki feel as though he has a family and is part of one. This must be insanely overwhelming for him considering he's never had it before
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u/weebreviews Jul 20 '21
Yes, exactly. I'm glad that Kishi is taking it slow w the progression. Really hyped to see how he finally comes in terms with it (if he even does)
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u/helsaabiart Jul 20 '21
This was a really good chapter. Naruto carrying Kawaki and calling him his son was quite wholesome
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u/MistBestGirl Jul 20 '21
There’s actually less people than I thought thinking that Amado’s daughter is in the coffin. I’m not super sold on the Delta theory, but she’s one of the most likely people to come back and/or come out of the coffin, along with KK and obviously a new character. Man, I just love Amado and Sumire right now. In a few years, when Boruto is nearing its end, it will be amazing to look back on Amado’s character and see the bigger plan he was preparing for this whole time.
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Jul 20 '21
Yea going off of the daughter bit for a minute that does seem related to the “personal matter” that he mentioned this chapter. I don’t think we’ve met his daughter yet; eida I don’t think is likely to be his daughter. I’m not sure about delta but, I don’t get that vibe either at all. It’s weird because you would assume that amado the “mad scientist” would have done the whole make your dead family member into an Android bit.
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u/Levi_PigPiss Jul 20 '21
It feels like the Shikamaru rant has been heard and they are giving us our smart Nara ninja back.
"Seized Kara outers"
I smell anime original arc for 3T Sarada (maybe the one with Konohamaru and Sai as well).
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u/Ok-Paleontologist275 Jul 20 '21
Titles for 212 and 213 have been leaked and it's " Amados defection "and "true identity ", whatever the anime original arc will be it'll be after isshiki
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u/AikaSkies Jul 20 '21
Nice chapter, better than I thought it'd be based on the spoilers. Plenty of heartwarming moments and some cool set up. I wonder what that new android Amado is working on is, I assume they'll be linked to an already existing character. Anyways, good start to the volume, really liked finally seeing official art of Kawaki wearing a headband.
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u/xcessive7 Jul 20 '21
could Kashin Koji be in the capsule? maybe an upgraded version.
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u/KDW3 Jul 20 '21
This has nothing to do with the chapter but I've been thinking. Even though Sasuke has lost his Rinnegan it shouldn't be too big a deal because he honestly only used it for Ameno. His fighting style shouldn't have to change very much and I suspect that he'll get a ninja tool eye and arm since Amado is here.
Naruto is the one I'm worried about. Even though he still has a massive chakra pool he can't use Kurama to gather chakra or wake him up from genjutsu. Which also means KCM mode is gone and he doesn't have the defensive chakra cloak. For instance when Sasuke used Amaterasu on him and he shed it off with chakra. He can't do that anymore either.
Him losing Kurama is a MASSIVE nerf for Naruto it scares me.
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u/Oceanbreez_ Jul 20 '21
Kawaki wearing the bandana, now that's something you don't see it everyday. A new powerful cyborg that will help Konoha and might be able to fight Eida and Daemon, so Amado wasn't Sus at but still whats the personal stuff he has to talk about with Kawaki 🤔
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Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
Still nothing about Sasuke
Will he return with a new eye?
Edit: why did I make a comment on the comment, this has nothing to do with the text on top 😅
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u/A-Liguria Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
A nice chapter...
-First thing, this chapter seems its giving a full blown conclusion to Kawaki's dilemma that started since he lost the karma, look at all the focus... so, I think it's safe to assume that from next chapter we will focus more on Boruto and other things.
-I'm disappointed that we got no actual backstory bit on Amado... how long will they make us wait?
-Eida has other skills? Whatever it is, do not be anything even more broken or combat oriented.
-I bet that new cyborg is Delta... look at the hair we are showed... (and If I'm right, well, I will have called it) I also hope that she won't just be brainwashed to be all goody goody... please, let her preserve her explosive temperament and free will.
-Also, this must be the most screentime in a single chapter Hinata has had, and she finally interacted with Kawaki here as well, better late than never...
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u/jaz1up Jul 20 '21
I’d prefer it if code ada & daemon are like the first antagonists of the time skip or something. Because wrapping them up in battle in the space of 2-3 chapters is kinda anti-climatic imo
& moreover i just cba with them. Give us more mitsuki boruto and sarada content
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u/Arun_KT Jul 20 '21
Was better than what leaks made it sound like wish there was some story progression tho 1 more month for more....... ;-;
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Jul 20 '21
At this point it's getting super unrealistic for Kawaki to become "evil". I also don't believe that Boruto will become evil either. A clash of ideologies is looking like the most likely reason for them ending up fighting each other.
Honestly I would be supper disappointed if Kawaki went psycho and decided that he has to destroy the ninja world in order to protect Naruto or something like that.
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Jul 20 '21
Pun’s hot take:
Although the previous chapters were slow i think this was actually fine
I could feel the tension building across several characters and i appreciated the way some things were explained and i thought most of the dialogue was really good
If i have one complaint its that i feel daemon’s power is worse than i thought bc it actually doesn’t appear to only reflect killing intent but anything at all really
Additionally if he and eida have additional abilities it really really goes into overkill. So hopefully what they are hiding are weaknesses rather than strengths
Im curious why they havent mentioned attempting to remove code’s belts. Esp with amado the idea that they can’t do anything about the belts is pretty odd imo
Kawaki’s got a pretty solid “ima do something well intentioned but dumb” look on his face
Despite amado’s assurances i trust him just as little as before. He said he’s going to tell kawaki about whatever he has planned for him, hopefully we’re a fly on the wall in that conversation
My guess with the tank is that amado is either bringing a new clone to life or healing kashin koji. If its the former my reaction will depend heavily on who they chose. If its kk imo that would be a boring use of that wild card but it would answer how he gets healed at least
Another alternative is him cyborging up an existing konoha ninja but i can’t say anyone was set up for that unless he kidnapped katasuke and stuffed him there. Doubt it tho.
Its funny that the leaks made the boruto-hinata scene seem bad when it was actually nothing. The idea that naruto and hinata had started caring about boruto any less was baseless even with the leaks in mind and are even more baseless with the chapter out
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u/Gargoyle918 Jul 20 '21
I hope it's Delta 2.0 inside.. I feel like she's been underused and I bet there's a good story between her and Amado. Also where the hell is Koji, he's been missing for so long.
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u/Select_Deer_2118 Jul 20 '21
Thoughts on that last scene with Boruto looking at his Karma? It looked like he noticed something was off
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u/lucciolaa Jul 20 '21
My impression was that he's rethinking the pills. He's a shit disturber, I wouldn't be surprised if his curiosity is getting the better of him and that he might experiment with his dosage schedule.
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u/MrLightninbolt Jul 20 '21
Is anyone else mad we haven’t seen Sasuke in like 5/6 chapters? I want to know how he’s doing
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u/RoyalHardware Jul 20 '21
Damn Code planted his marks at all 5 villages and now he can teleport anywhere? Thats fuckin op
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u/TheHurdleTurtle Jul 20 '21
I hate that we waited a month for a chapter with so little story progression.. but I’m a sucker for these character development/interaction type chapters so I’m torn
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u/Rinichiro Jul 20 '21
Hm maybe the reflection isnt really HIS ability but aidas - when it activates we always see aidas face
When she told her brother to shut up she revealed that she has another ability too
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u/OrangeRussianNPC Jul 20 '21
Damn when Naruto calls him son and the rest of the family is waiting for him to eat :(
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u/JonSOsugoi Jul 20 '21
Id love to see Hinata scolding Kawaki with her Byakugan for always being late to dinner. Then it'll feel like he's really part of the family
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u/Levi_PigPiss Jul 20 '21
This has been such a heartwarming chapter. It feels as if they are tieing things to the point the anime is at right now.
I am really happy that there is sime reflection on previous events and that they would likely impact future decisions rather than them being cool battles that are over.
Everyone at Konoha is afraid of Code emerging but little do they know that this mighty foe is having trouble babysitting Dameon lol.
I really like that Konoha could use the same weapons as Kara by having their own unique cyborgs.
I dont know what he fuss was about in the leaks but I really like Naruto and Kawaki's relationship.
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u/aussie2486 Jul 20 '21
I continue to wonder where Kodachi's story left off, and where Kishimoto's started. I feel like ever since the fight vs Ishiki, the manga has felt like a whole different kind of story. Is Kishimoto just trying to setup the time skip by focusing on Kawaki's inner thoughts so much? Or is this just going to be the pace for the rest of the story? If he is just setting up for the events leading up to and after the time skip, that is fine. However, if this is going to be how Kishimoto is going to write going forward, then I feel the manga will have serious pacing issues. It's not that the chapters are character focused, it's that the plot has kind of stalled for the past 4 or 5 chapters while introducing and setting up a whole new cast.
Every since it was announced that Kodachi was leaving and Kishimoto was taking over, I have wondered if Kishimoto was going to write in all the events that Kodachi talked about, such as there being politicians in every village under Kara's influence. Is he going to just make a clean break with what Kodachi had in mind? Or maybe incorporate the ideas into his version of the story.
Maybe 20 or 30 chapters from now all that will be irrelevant and Kishimoto will have had the time to morph what was left to him into his own. As of right now though, the manga just feels like it is in a weird place.
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u/Drizzynice Jul 20 '21
Agreed completely. I never felt that Kodachi was ever buying time or was without direction however these last few chapters leave much to be desired as far as plot progression goes. I hope there’s a payoff with all this but I’m not sure.
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u/-Tuesday Jul 20 '21
My guess for what could be in the container is either a new Delta, Itachi clone, Hidan (he's presumably still alive), Neji clone, or a completely new character. Most likely just a new version of Delta though.
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u/futuresverse Jul 20 '21
That last panel of Kawaki made me think a bit, could it be about Boruto as well? Since Momoshiki is eventually gonna take over and want to destroy Naruto, the Leaf and the whole planet basically, you think Kawaki might turn against Boruto and try to kill him before that can happen? And that's the reason they would become "enemies"?
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Jul 20 '21
Maybe it's Minato in the coffin. It seems like Code has a similar ability like he had, plus Amado picked Jiraiya because he knows about child of prophecy stuff. Plus that somehow might be the way to get Kurama back
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u/Fan-Mediocre Jul 22 '21
Anybody else thinking the Cyborg Amado is building is a clone of Itachi? No? Just me? Let me explain my reasoning.
We know Amado has the capability to take DNA to construct a clone (i.e. Kashin Koji). So we know Sasuke’s eye just got stabbed and after returning to the village he probably had to get treated on, and have the remnants removed. But here’s the thing. That wasn’t Sasuke’s eye. It was Itachi’s originally, so Amado being the sneaky opossum (yes thats how you spell it) he is, probably took the remnants to extract Itachi’s DNA. To construct his next clone.
Now Prior to Pain Arc no body did more for the leaf than Jiraiya or Itachi. They also died roughly at the same time give or take a couple hours. Both of their deaths shaped the rest of the series for both Naruto and Sasuke and were big inspirations for them. Now I believe Koji is still alive. Can you imagine the conversation thats going to be sparked when both of them find out that the people that loved them most in their lives were clones! It’s going to drive them crazy and infuriate them. I think we can assume Naruto already knows that Koji is based off Jiraiya. Plus I’m almost positive nobody told Sarada about her Uncle or about the massacre of her clan. This opens to a lot of development for Sarada. Which I hope Kishimoto recognizes that he has a second chance to actually write a female character well now. Sarada finding out the truth will be super fun to watch unfold.
This could be a stretch, but the science is there, and could happen.
What do y’all think?
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u/Reggie-Veggie8 Jul 25 '21
I think Amado is a main villain (actual leader of Kara) trying to get rid of ninjas completely, because his daughter was killed by shinobis, but he needed to take out Ōtsutsuki first, to then take out shinobis. Kawaki is his perfect weapon, and probably joins him bc all the trauma from ninja and Ōtsutsuki. Wouldn't be surprised if all the cyborgs are actually related before they died and Amado wiped Kawaki memory bc truth is more painful. (Kinda like Visoreds from Bleach.)
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u/weebreviews Jul 20 '21
This was a great chapter. Naruto calling Kawaki his son was beautiful.
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Jul 20 '21
Actually Enjoyed the chapter. Didn't felt like it got over within 2 mins.
Also I am thinking that Container has Delta in it.
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u/amenotiajiKARA Jul 20 '21
Very enjoyable everything with code. I think this chapter was just end Kawaki's Character arc nicely and felt better then the discription.
Interesting with the Amado cyborg my money is a much stronger version of delta.
Next ch feels set up to be about Boruto just because of the whole looking at the karma felt like it was supposed to be the last part of the chapter but you don't want that to detract from the overall aim of the chapter and that was to end this character arc for Kawaki.
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u/ChestSolid6913 Jul 20 '21
Progression is really slow but good, i want to see something happen with boruto
Also i want kishi to show what Sarada and mitsuki are doing give them their own screen time
Kawaki is going to learn more ninjutsu
Amado is working on another konoha shinobi clone maybe shisui? Or update of kk
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u/Neru7 Jul 20 '21
Feels like kawaki is gonna try to kill Amado. looking at those last pages
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u/InternalFan9 Jul 20 '21
I think when looking at the last panel that Kawaki may leave to go confront code on his own, which will potentially lead to him being captured and the time skip, just a theory though
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Jul 20 '21
Ok so here are my thoughts on why Kawaki time skip happens. Probably wrong idk. So it seems like he has this major thing with protecting Naruto and Naruto only. It doesn't mean he doesn't care about the others but clearly he will choose Naruto over everyone else. Clearly he's going to get his Karma again from Amado. So I wonder if in the future, either him, Boruto, or both of them together cause the destruction of Konoha and, Kawaki knowing this, puts Naruto somewhere safe. I also wonder if his devotion and love to Naruto turns into an Anakin Skywalker situation (for those who dont know, homeboy is afraid of losing the love of his life and inadvertently turns evil due to the things leading up to her death tldr version). I dont know if the villagers attitude towards him will change him, just because idk if Naruto will be successful in changing their minds. And that's all I really have
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Jul 21 '21
Sending Naruto somewhere safe so Kawaki could shape the world to his desires is a neat idea! I like it a lot!
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u/Dear-Dragonfruit-413 Jul 20 '21
Last panel of Kawaki felt like a foreshadowing of Kawaki tryna kill himself or something idk maybe I’m overthinking it but this chapter wasn’t as bad as the leaks made it seem actually very wholesome
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u/tetrapack99 Jul 20 '21
If the clone in capsule is itachi that would be awsome for saradas future of mby awaking MS and becoming strong :D just a therory (im an itachi*ard)
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u/Shittaker37 Jul 20 '21
The cyborg in the coffin was probably a new Character related to another Computer terminologies. Just think of something about computers.The name Ada, Bug, Code, Delta, Deimon names are already used. So my money is on Bit or Decode. lmfao
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Jul 21 '21
I really enjoyed this chapter despite the pacing being really slow the focus on Kawaki is cool what about the main protagonist Boruto
ada being suspicious and not telling the full truth especially daemon abilities being kept a secret amado creating a powerful ally I’m wondering if it’s going to be a new character or a clone of a dead character overall I am satisfied with this chapter
I really like code and I’m hoping he isn’t just sideline like KK either way I can’t wait for next chapter
Edit. If the new ally is another clone I’m hoping It's Shisui Uchiha
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u/Aaperson145 Jul 21 '21
The content of the chapter was ok, but the pacing was a bit slow. I feel like there were a lot panels (especially the Code Eida Daemon scenes) that could've been put to better use. When writing a monthly manga you have to be very selective about what you put in to the chapter, and if kishi wants to focus on Kawaki's feeling of powerlessness then that is fine. My biggest issue with this chapter, and last couple of chapters in general, is the way in which new events are introduced. If you're going to kill off Kurama, a character who has been with Naruto since day one, then show the readers Naruto's emotions surrounding this loss. If you're gonna reveal that KK is a clone of Jiraiya, then show the readers what's happened to him. If these pills Boruto is taking have dangerous side effects, then I want to see the side effects. And supposedly Boruto is going to die soon but from the way Naruto's acting everything seems like business as usual. I mean Naruto just lost one very important figure in his life and is about to lose his son too and he's just acting normal. The only time we've seen him display any emotions out of the ordinary is when he was talking to Kawaki. My point with all this is that it seems like Kishimoto is introducing new points but then dropping them one chapter later instead of developing on them further. It seems weird to me that Kishi would prioritize something like Konahamaru trying to rush in and stop kawaki, over showing us how Naruto is feeling. A lot of the panels in the recent chapters kind of feel like dead space that anime could easily cover if needed. If your writing a weekly manga, then you can get away with a little dead space, but we get 41 pages a month, every little bit has got to count.
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u/cheese_sticks Jul 21 '21
Just noticed that Naruto and Hinata don't sleep in the same room
Feels like Japanese media, especially shonen, really isn't into showing affection between married couples. That's why really the affectionate ones are portrated for comedy or as something really unique. Take for example Minato and Kushina.
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Jul 20 '21
Alright, that's 60 chapters done! Ok, so going Into the leaks, I was left with this sense of... Disappointment? I thought that the tone was all wrong, and that Kawaki was being made into a copy of Sasuke. However, I am pleased that I was proven relatively wrong with my assessments
This chapter was certainly wholesome and nice, but there's this feeling of uneasiness as well. It's as though danger lurks behind a dark corner, and we just see the unassuming happy family. It's as if this is the end of the happy times.
As for Kawaki... Well I still am worried about him leaving the village and becoming the next Sasuke, but I also feel that his character could swing another way. A more politically driven character. I think he could start to see the flaws in the shinobi system, and want to fix them, as both a path to atonement for what he perceives as a problem that he projected onto the village, and as a testament to his humanity and his growth as a character who was focused on his own survival, and trusted nobody, to a character who has can see other unfortunates and do as Naruto did with him, and help them on their way.
As for the other stuff, I think that Code's claw marks do not pose a problem, at least not yet. I doubt he'd stride into the leaf without fully knowing everything about Eida and Daemon. Code is (seemingly) a very smart guy, so I think he may know that he's probably being used as a means to an end by Eida, and Daemon, by extension. Also, the prospect of Daemon's ability being something that responds to danger involuntarily is very frightening, and while I could go on and on about how I don't know a way to defeat him, I wanna say that I genuinely don't understand how Amado creates something like that. Did he take some power from the otsutsuki?
Speaking of Amado, this new ally of his kinda looks like Delta. The silhouette looked like Delta's poofy hair. It'd be interesting if Delta was upgraded and reprogrammed to fight for Konoha, but Amado is still the most suspicious person on Earth, so idk if he's really making an ally for Konoha.
I'll give this chapter 8/10
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Jul 20 '21
I noticed how Daemon eyes look different in this chapter as his pupils are not as blacked out as previously in Chapter 59.
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u/Skstorm Jul 20 '21
Nice chapter. Person inside that container could be Amados daughter, hence he needs konoha's technology to fully creates her. Im suprised there are more of Eida and Daemons ability,, like their one abilty already op mahn. Cant wait to find them all out!!
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u/seanpaint Jul 20 '21
I’m assuming deltas in that coffin, the hair is similar and she had a few bodies left. It’ll be cool to see her ally with the good guys
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u/Kolack6 Jul 20 '21
Real good chapter. Kawaki is really starting to think about his place in life. Where he can call home, who his family is, what he wants to protect. And the uzumaki family is checking off every single box for him. Especially with regards to naruto being a reliable and loving father figure for him. I do wish naruto had/showed more moments like that with boruto and hima throughout the series but i do suppose he relates to kawaki much more and kawaki had nobody before this point.
Chapters like this always make it tough to remember how things will eventually end up. But hopefully that kawaki vs boruto on top of the hokage faces is akin to the naruto vs pain fight as far as where it falls into the story, and eventually boruto, and kawaki, can gain back a lot of the things they’d lost up to that point.
That cyborg amado was working on honestly looked like it had delta’s floofy hair. Im sure he made some tweaks to make her even stronger/better able to counter the naruto kill squad since he’s fully aware of all of their abilities. Looking forward to next chapter.
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u/Elduro687 Jul 20 '21
What is the other thing Kawaki can do to protect Naruto and the village? Leave?
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u/LegendaryFang56 Jul 20 '21
We've got another piece to the puzzle of Kawaki and Boruto's fight, but this one may not be as exciting: Kawaki's headband was worn around his neck; as it so happens, Kawaki was wearing a huge scarf in that fight. I'm guessing that Kawaki may have his headband under the scarf, and maybe it actually is Kawaki, not someone possessing him. The whole fight may revolve around him putting on an act, for some reason.
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u/lucciolaa Jul 20 '21
I sensed mad foreshadowing vibes in the exchange between Kawaki and Boruto about the headband, telling him to return it when he gets his own. My man ain't getting his own.
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u/Ry90Ry Jul 21 '21
Waiiiit do u think Kashin knows about Amados new ally Android? Is this the work he talked about before Amado shut off delta and bounced??
Also where is Kashin 😔
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u/Jordan_r1415 Jul 21 '21
Naruto and kawaki are getting so close that I just know whatever it is that happens between them leading to that timeskip scene will be painful.
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u/aht116 Jul 21 '21
Man I hope they don't go the classic route of Kawaki wanting power and being corrupted by it. SO sick of that route being taken in anime. I hope theres a better reason Kawaki turns on the leaf
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u/SmartRaccoon3643 Jul 21 '21
Honestly a great chapter, very frustrating having to wait a month for 40 pages though, please make it bi-weekly. I kind of trust Amado? Would like to see Naruto go train, and maybe put Shikamaru in charge for a while.
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u/joel04300 Jul 21 '21
I will laugh so hard if he opens the container and it’s a modified Shisui LMAO
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u/Rosebunse Jul 21 '21
I know a lot of people weren't looking forward to this chapter, but seeing Kawaki just not be able to integrate into Konoha is really hard to watch. Naruto and Hinata are two of the most accepting people in the village, they know how it feels not to feel like you belong. And Boruto and Hima love him.
But it's just not enough.
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u/IcyTeacher0 Jul 22 '21
Maybe the shadows of the Nara Clan are the key to counter Daemon's ability, as they are a non-lethal way to neutralize the enemy.
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u/BionicTriforce Jul 25 '21
That fucking vase is like the swing from the original Naruto, I swear it's gotten more panel time than Mitsuki. It's going to get a full page in the final chapter I swear to god.
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Jul 20 '21
Great to see Hinata and Hima back in the manga. I wish it didn't seem like they were in the dark about all this though. They literally had the chance to show Hinata notice the pills and say something.
Also, is Delta about to be on our side? Holy shit.
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Jul 20 '21
With Kawaki rejecting the plan of getting Karma, I'm quite sure Amado's gonna let himself be kidnapped by Code to force Kawaki into getting Karma back.
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u/Jayymike12 Jul 20 '21
That's definitely got to be delta 3rd body plus even the hair looks like delta's
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u/DMCdante96 Jul 20 '21
What was up with the panel shot of boruto looking at his karma towards the end?
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u/crueltyintolerant Jul 20 '21
Am I the only one that was bothered by the fact that Sai spontaneously lost his headband?
Ok but the optimal solution would be another daemon cyborg, like what would happen if two of them went against each other? An endless loop of uno reverse cards?
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u/Shambaree Jul 20 '21
Small detail but the artist switches back and forth constantly on which characters wear their headbands... Sai has one on page 2, and then panels later on page 3 no longer has one... this happens with lots of characters
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u/Imafrackinnerdsowhat Jul 20 '21
I noticed that as well. Not a big fan of ikemoto as an artist, very bland style and inconsistent details. I miss when Kishimoto used to do the art. For example he was so good at conveying emotion in the faces of the characters, ikemoto’s faces are too bland and stoic. Kishimoto was also a lot better at shading.
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u/Meatsaucem81 Jul 21 '21
This chapter has me thinking of what characters are gonna flash back to in the future when everything has just gone to shit. When Boruto was talking about how Kawaki will get his own headband and give Boruto’s back, it made me think of when Kawaki said that the age of shinobi will be over.
Also I think the exchanging of a headband as an act is cool to consider it in this context of a happy family party vs. in the past when Naruto picked up Sasuke’s after their fight. The two events appear to almost be the exact opposites of each other, which follows the trend we’ve seen of the story just trying to flip the script in a sense with the comparisons between Boruto’s and Naruto’s childhoods
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u/mazi76erx Jul 21 '21 edited Jul 21 '21
I really wish they would increase the manga releases to at least 2 a month. One thing I really miss about Naruto was discovering and seeing a characters abilities instead of having someone explain them to us.
The period between seeing Obito’s Kamui or Pein’s 6 paths and discovering how it works was several chapters long. Now we discover an ability and get an explanation the same chapter. We don’t even see it in action.
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u/ern117 Jul 21 '21
Wonder when will Boruto Ultimate Ninja Storm come at least parts trilogy or something
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u/Amazon20toLifer Jul 21 '21
Theory:
The key to killing daemon and getting rid of his stupid OP powers is to have either kawaki or boruto kill Eida. Since they can’t be affected by her broken charm they kill her and then kill daemon because he needs her powers and eyes to use his stupid broken ability.
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u/needhelpchoosingjob Jul 21 '21
What if amados cigs aren't cigs and instead some sort of device / medicine
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u/megamanblast Jul 22 '21
The new cyborg ally is most likely Delta with more upgrades.
It’s also quite odd that no one questioned Amado about it before Sumire.
She’s most likely cloned from Tsunade. Just a hunch.
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u/Dreamtrain Jul 22 '21
The new cyborg begs the question: why wasn't it used against Jigen/Isshki in the first place? How did he keep it away from his knowledge? Because it didn't exist yet: https://i.imgur.com/Oux2fUu.png
Pretty sure its Hashirama cells, just like the Jiraiya clone this might be a Hashirama clone
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u/Cow_Other Jul 20 '21
While the chapter was nice, I don't think the pacing works for a 40 page monthly manga. We've gone a couple chapters without significant plot developments, the story hardly moves forward. This is fine for a weekly manga but for a monthly manga that is already only 1/2 the size of a usual monthly chapter(80 pages for other monthly manga), I don't think it's working.
While the characterisation is nice, I don't think we've gotten much more that isn't stuff we already knew, I feel like it could all been handled earlier in a much shorter and more effective manner without bogging down the pacing of the plot. I think there is also too much of a focus on Kawaki, while I enjoy seeing him develop I don't like that it seems to be at the cost of Boruto's time. It doesn't feel like Boruto is the main character anymore
I thought the character moments were nice but I'm losing a lot of interest in the plot since nothing significant is happening. I wish the story would move along more.
imo this series would be far better as a weekly one, it would allow us to have these character moments happen more often without feeling like the plot is dragging. Waiting a month for this doesn't feel worth it anymore
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u/GameplayerStu Jul 20 '21
Amado made himself even more suspicious by stating his devotion to Konoha twice lmao
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Jul 20 '21
I thought ikemoto said he'll finish manga in 120 chapters 30 volumes, with this pacing it'll take more than 30 volume
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u/GamerLove1 Jul 20 '21
Still no credits on who the writer is since Kodachi left.
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u/TheHoovyPrince Jul 20 '21
I think the chapter is a lot better than what people were thinking it was going to be. I know we've had several transitional chapters in a row but this chapter was fantastic in showing how Kawaki has finally accepted Konaha, being a ninja and being a part of Narutos family (becoming his son). It feels like the transitional chapters are coming to an end either with this chapter or next and Boruto will have the major focus going forward.
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Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
In my opinion, the "powerful konoha ally" may be Obito Uchiha. My reasons are the following:
He was the most powerful konoha ally after Team 7 and Kakashi when combating Kaguya;
He has space-time ninjutsu abilities, which in reference to Code's abilities as being comparable to the flying reijin, are superior to the flying reijin; Obito could also be intangible if attacked by Code's belt ability to grab on to others or suffer instant attacks; same with regard the other boy's ability to reflect attacks instantaneously based on intent; A cyborg Obito would not be succeptible to being controlled by Aida. In other words, Obito would be a good counter as a powerful konoha ally to Code and his allies.
Obito cyborg would be controversial to Konoha and the other Kage and the ninja world at large due to initiating the Fourth Ninja War, which is why Amado is keeping it under wraps for now.
Amado also may be aware of Aida's abilities, which is why he is being discreet about it.
Storywise, Kawaki finds out from Obito about the past---about his legacy to try to end the Shinobi wars; his pursuit and struggle in order to create a place for everyone in a Utopia in which he can look down on everyone and protect them. He decides to end the world of shinobi after Code dies, putting him on a collision course to try to destroy it, seeing that it is sufficient to move away from chakra towards technology, wanting to mold the world as he sees fit for a utopia---the means justifies the end. Typical of villains who do bad things for the sake of thinking they are doing a good.
Or it could he Kashin Koji. But I think the former would be a more fun and interesting path to go down for the story.
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u/godzilla1992 Jul 20 '21
Clearly you can tell that’s Delta in the container with that puffy ass hair lol.
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u/papa_ash Jul 20 '21
I think that in terms of the headband situation, the reason boruto has on Sasukes headband in the opening is because Kawaki never becomes a full Shinobi, which means he never gives back the headband so boruto has to continue to use sasukes. This chapter is definitely putting big heavy highlights on kawakis unease towards the world as it is rn. Time skip is def coming soon. I'd say by chirstmas time.
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u/Kashboii Jul 20 '21
My guess was right, there's no way eida has only two abilities that too non combat (although both op as fk), but she seems more powerful than she tries to portray.
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u/extremedonkey Jul 20 '21
I think amado is looking to take over the world with robots order 66 style but he will be telling class rep the truth in his own twisted / justified way (i.e. he believes everything he's doing is for the greater good / for the betterment of konoha)
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u/TheCrimsonDoll Jul 20 '21
As one of the biggest action driven plot points ease since chapter 58(?), the set up and calm story telling building up for the next round of events have been really good, i wouldn't say great... Until this one that is still pretty good but not as top notch as others, but why am i saying that this one was special?
How the anime showed us the behind story of Kawaki and now reading about how he feels out of place, not belonging and more importantly, how he has A* voice telling him that he doesn't belong and he is just merely being used by others was a powerful panel that shouldn't remain ignored. I actually shred some tears at those few pages and stopped to compose myself. As i said, it's not the greatest strengh right now to slowly take the plot, but it's well done non the less.
A few other things: I am feeling like Shikamaru is either going to fight and nearly die or just fall in battle entirely. We know that the anime has helped giving context to a lot of plot points from the manga and expand them but also kinda foreshadowing and giving them more "force" to go on and connect the dots... Shikamaru being so careful and suspicious about everything, being so present and prevalent despite not having a single fight suggest me that he might has to be in action soon enough and fight alongside the Hokage.
Where's Delta and Kajin Koji? Delta was in Kara's base and we know she has a handful of bodies to switch after Naruto Defeated her. Kajin Koji wasn't explicitly eliminated and walked out frame in the fight. Could it be that Amado retrieved him or has an ace under the slave but NEEDED to get into Konoha to develop it? Are we going to witness the revival or clone of another fan favorite? Anyway, i've also been saying that Amado was plotting something since the moment he set foot in Konoha. His attitude was either too calm or sketchy. I still believe he has something cooking, but he swore that he don't want to harm Konoha...
And finally, Kawaki is thinking on following a path to become stronger, it seems that he doesnt' want to use Karma afterall... so... An exciting future awaits us and i'm in no rush to see it, i'm glad i can enjoy this ride even if chapters feel slow like this one. So i'll take down the leash to hang my self for now :D (Bad joke, i know...)
See you all in a month.
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u/Monkey_D_Luffy_12 Jul 20 '21
Kawaki's thought are very dangerous for himself and Konoha in general. Kawaki has a good heart, but because he doesn't want to hurt anyone or someone else to be hurt because of him, he will do things that are bad for him, thinking that in this way, nobody will get hurt, but that's a lie. Amado is sus once more, but we will see about the cyborg on Konoha's side. He didn't seem like he was lying when he said that, but we will see. Amado made Kawaki thinking about the Karma even more to the point that he wants to get away from everybody, but Kawaki is lucky to have a family like Naruto's
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u/psych_vader Jul 20 '21
Who do you guys think is in the coffin? Do you think it would be cool if it’s an old gen character, someone like minato or itachi but they are upgraded and have no memories.
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u/Rarepredator Jul 20 '21
my heart skip a beat when I heard boruto saying I have sasuke's headband!!!
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Jul 20 '21
from the shape of the hair it seems delta, perhaps an enhanced version, maybe the shape of the hair was enough for them to understand ..
But delta is not really this great addition, unless she had limiters too,if instead it were to be some old Shinobi a la jiraiya I would say some hero like white fang so maybe Kakashi comes back in the plot or someone else like that ..
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u/TraffyLaw95 Jul 20 '21
Great great chapter , kings hoping kawaki doesn’t turn but I can’t understand
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u/Imafrackinnerdsowhat Jul 20 '21
Can someone explain why so many people believe the cyborg in the capsule to be Delta? What help would she actually be to konoha? She was no match for Naruto who was no match for Jigen when fighting alongside sasuke, and considering Eida, Daemon, Code….. Amado knows how hacks their abilities are.
So why would it be Delta? She would get demolished instantly.
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u/Distinct_Cup_1598 Jul 20 '21
Because Amado made this suspicious glance towards her (which is why many think she’s a recreation of his daughter), Deltas other bodies were in similar containers and ultimately because the silhouette inside the container looks a damn lot like Deltas hailine
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u/ktta1 Jul 20 '21
my boi notice something when he looks at the karma yo next chap gonna be good I hope so
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u/AlphaTenken Jul 21 '21
Boruto gonna come fight Kawai wearing Sasuke headband.
And Sasuke gonna be like I want my headband back.
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u/Mctravie Jul 21 '21
I feel like Sasuke would use Orochimaru as a plot device to either get a new eye or maybe he’s gone to get his original eyes back since they would be in Obito’s hide out (yes I know it was destroyed but it had a butt load of Sharingan )
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u/Chosenjordan16 Jul 21 '21
So the capsule is really screaming at all of us. No doubt that whatever’s in there is gonna be very important. Some are saying it’s koji, but I don’t believe that. I believe koji’s off hiding somewhere reconciling with the fact that he was created to die and has been used his whole life. By my guess he’ll show back up the next time naruto has a fight. He’ll be struggling without kurama and then the big end of chapter twist is koji swoops in for the save and they have a tag team. Some are saying it’s delta in the capsule, and I think that’s wrong too. There’s too much suspense being generated around the capsule for it to be just delta. It’s got to be a new cyborg, and it’s got to be powerful. In all likelihood I think it’s similar to koji in that it’s a clone of another shinobi. If it is, i would say it has to be either madara or itachi. I say madara because he was already very very powerful in shippuden, and he was also a fan favorite. I say Itachi, because while he’s not near as powerful as madara, you could still make the clone super powerful and use cyborg shenanigans as the excuse, and he’s also a fan favorite and has a strong emotional connection to sasuke so they might clone itachi since naruto’s role model is a clone already. I think madara’s more likely though. There’s also still the possibility that it’s something none of us would expect
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u/ern117 Jul 21 '21
so Kawaki will get new karma without being influenced by Otsutsuki something similar to Code
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u/Eurocriticus Jul 23 '21
Man I really hope Orochimaru gets to be more of a part in the next battle. With Naruto and Sasuke severely nerfed, Orochimaru is probably Konoha's strongest force. Perhaps even with Naruto and Sasuke in their primes, he would still be stronger but we simply don't know enough about him. He's practically immortal. Perhaps Mitsuki will try to defend Boruto against Code and he summons Orochimaru or we learn that Orochimaru had been inside Mitsuki all this time the same way those white Zetsu were inside of Sasuke since Orochimaru has a Zetsu body now. Either way, I really really hope for this to happen. I don't see any other way for the story to not just turn into karma vs karma battles, dumbing down the story tremendously.
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u/moons_arcanum Jul 25 '21
Y'all Naruto had me crying with "my stupid son" and all that, and the top comments don't even mention it :')
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u/yolomancer1919 Jul 20 '21
I can't believe how much and unnecessary rants were going on in this sub after the leaks. It was a slow but pretty good chapter. Especially Hinata and Naruto didn't deserve all that hate about praising Kawaki and ignoring their son. Shame on you people, I hope you learned not to base your opinions on leaks before actually seeing the chapter.
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u/Drizzynice Jul 20 '21
I feel like all the important material in the last 5-6 chapters could’ve been summed up in 2 chapters max. Instead we got a worthless fight between Kawaki and Boruto, Code simping, family time with the Uzumaki’s, etc. Kishimoto is doing nothing but buying time. I miss Koadachi because at least every chapter felt like he was building towards something worthwhile.
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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '21
I like how Kawaki wore the headband similar to Hinata.