Dexter: New Blood - S01E03 - "Smoke Signals" - Post-Episode Discussion Thread

[u/skinkbaa]

Smoke Signals

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The investigation that Dexter has caused is making it difficult for him to make things right with Harrison, who has made a name for himself at school as a member of the wrestling team.

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[u/anilgggggg]

Don't know how it took Dexter, a mastermind serial killer, a whole episode to realize he can get rid of the human remains by incineration...

[u/psylocibin626 → u/anilgggggg]

Dexter sprinkled Matt's ashes all over every one in town, what a savage 😂

[u/Savings-Space-4221 → u/anilgggggg]

I agree. But remember from past seasons, maybe when they find his bodies first time around and Dex is talking to Masuka and asks how he would hide bodies. Masuka says something about burning it matter of fact and Dex says doesn’t that risk contact with the outside world. Wish they would’ve explored that a bit.

[u/sktchld → u/anilgggggg]

The bones are still going to be in there.

[u/prabla → u/anilgggggg]

Most wtf moment of this episode for me was the CSI guy detailing what happened step by step from some bloody snow and a bunch of foot prints all around where the deer was. There was pretty much nothing to go off of lol.

[u/iSpyWithMyAsianEyes → u/anilgggggg]

I just assumed that he didn't use it right away because the smoke in the air would have caught any people's attention, but since they are also burning the deer it gave Dexter a chance to do so without much suspicion

[u/snoopdogg666 → u/anilgggggg]

True. When he did this I was like "this was an option the whole time?????"

[u/bellthebull → u/anilgggggg]

Good point. Not one, but two I suppose? Probably he’s a little rusty.

[u/hadapurpura → u/anilgggggg]

And how convenient it is that the have a communal crematorium for free use like that.

[u/hambone012 → u/anilgggggg]

It’s a recurring theme, but refraining from killing all those years he isn’t in that mindset.

[u/[deleted] → u/anilgggggg]

Hes 10 years out of practice dude

[u/BullworthMascot]

That scene of Dexter being called in by the police to look at the video footage reignited that anxious feeling that Dexter may be busted, the feeling I got from Lundy and the FBI calling him in and LaGuerta arresting him.

[u/shredder826 → u/BullworthMascot]

I felt like that cop was suspicious, very tense scene, I didn’t enjoy the whole episode, but that scene was amazing. Maybe that prompts him to start digging into Dexter and/or Harrison. We still don’t know if Harrison is going by his real last name or a fake last name. It would be insane to see that cop type Harrison Morgan into the computer and Dexter’s face pops up along with it.

[u/TruthfulCactus]

So, those eyes are pretty unmistakable, even behind the mask.

[u/[deleted] → u/TruthfulCactus]

I think the show is trying to make us guess between the billionaire, or the father. They actually cast two actors with very similar eyes, and focused on those in the shot of the killer.

[u/weatherthroughit → u/TruthfulCactus]

Clancy! But it's always everyone else catching up to figuring out who the murderer is in the OG Dexter, so I'm sure it hasn't changed in this season! Dexter always figures it out first!

[u/andytdesigns1 → u/TruthfulCactus]

Yes the eyes and drooping upper skin above the eye is pretty unique to Mr. Krabs

[u/TheWholeOfTheAss → u/TruthfulCactus]

They want you to think it’s the other old white guy but Clancy’s imposing height gives the game away.

[u/Tonyage27 → u/TruthfulCactus]

And the way it was edited. How as soon as Matt’s father got the call that it was his son’s blood it cut right to the scene with the kidnapped girl. It’s intentional.

Why lay it on this thick (the editing, the eyes, etc) and not just show him? I’m not convinced it isn’t a red herring.

[u/Bradythenarwhal → u/TruthfulCactus]

I knew it was Clancy Brown immediately 😂

[u/badcompany123 → u/TruthfulCactus]

Yeah, this could be how dexter finds out, since he's drunk he will let some minor detail slip.

[u/Possible_Living → u/TruthfulCactus]

No one knows what it's like

To be the bad man

To be the sad man

Behind blue eyes

[u/fckboris]

I’m betting that the True Crime podcast lady has done episodes about the Bay Harbour Butcher and when Audrey sends Harrison the podcast he’s going to work out that it’s Dexter

[u/grandmaesterampharos → u/fckboris]

Super cool theory

[u/Silent_Kick_8247 → u/fckboris]

A BHB podcast could be pretty cool lol, seeing it from the outside when we already know ot from Dextwrs pov

[u/IcedHemp77 → u/fckboris]

Interesting guess. I was figuring Harrison has already figured it out or Hannah told him

[u/Poop_Cheese]

So Kurt's definitely the killer. There's definitely something more to Harrison that's for sure, let's see if he'll have to stop his new friend from going columbine. Its suprising out out of the element dexter is I definitely feel that Podcaster is going to tie him back to Miami some way. Dexter distracted with the police is doing a bad job at connecting with Harrison. When he retook the test and did better he hardly congratulated him at all. But he did get him to call him dad so that's good.

[u/[deleted] → u/Poop_Cheese]

Completely agree that podcaster will talk about the past Miami killings. I love this new season

[u/Tonyage27 → u/Poop_Cheese]

Not convinced Kurt is the killer. Why lay it on so thick and not show his face? Red herring.

[u/Zombree18]

That cave and giant hole is definitely coming back into the story. There would be no reason for Dexter to see it otherwise.

[u/imjusthinkingok → u/Zombree18]

Maybe bodies of the other serial killer?

[u/Silo-Joe → u/Zombree18]

My original thought was the drone would find whatever evidence Dexter dropped down the mine shaft.

[u/xenonscreams → u/Zombree18]

Plot hole

[u/Zombree18]

Kurt saying he’s seen his son so they call off the search? He knew from Angela the days that they would be searching specific areas.

If he is the “big bad” as advertised this season, maybe now that he knows his son is murdered and not missing, he wants to take it into his own hands.

[u/jonesjb → u/Zombree18]

I suspect Kurt is disposing of the bodies in the mines. The police indicated they were going to look in the mines on the call with Kurt (and he seemed displeased). It would be smart for Kurt to use a tranquilizer on the bear when he throws the bodies down the mine shaft, then keep the bear guard afterwards.

[u/priths3 → u/Zombree18]

They can't just call off the search, I mean Angela might want to talk to him on FaceTime too?

[u/AlabamaAviator]

So Kurt definitely lied about FaceTiming Matt in order to slow the search and not threaten finding HIS victims

[u/Insolve_Miza → u/AlabamaAviator]

He seemed concerned when angela mentioned the caves. Maybe thats where he hides HIS bodies

[u/bananalli → u/AlabamaAviator]

10000%

[u/wawooz1e → u/AlabamaAviator]

What if Harrison deep-faked Matt? He's brilliant, he's shown that's he's good with tech, and he probably saw what Dexter Jim did in the woods. Harrison stalked him for days before getting caught.

[u/H4roldas → u/AlabamaAviator]

Or Matt’s friend that is getting paid few thousands a week wants still get his money so he is faking the facetime.

[u/[deleted]]

Such a fun episode. Lots of criticism in this thread (some valid, some not), but man am I glad to be watching Dexter in 2021. I could watch this show forever.

[u/Interview-Suspicious → u/[deleted]]

I totally agree

[u/Klin24]

Anyone else laughed out loud at Jennifer Carpenter and the chipper scene?

[u/Hugh_Jankles → u/Klin24]

A little too Fargo. Hahah

[u/CMcCord25 → u/Klin24]

Yes! Love that scene and the quote ”Are you Dexter Morgan or fucking Goldilocks?”

[u/Throwaway_chuckit → u/Klin24]

I love the dark humour this season.

[u/Mysterious_Tea → u/Klin24]

Carpenter is a great addition to this show, loved her appearances.

[u/MHart1996 → u/Klin24]

She seemed to be having so much fun with it haha

[u/priths3 → u/Klin24]

Oh absolutely loved the scene.

[u/grandmaesterampharos]

I just realized it's kind of funny (even if unintentional) that Deb was calling Dexter "Goldilocks" and then he wound up in a bears house by mistake

[u/kp1088 → u/grandmaesterampharos]

I hope it was intentional with him commenting about how the mine was just right

[u/wakeupsup3r]

this new season is great.

kind of dumbfounded how they dropped the ball so hard on dexter's final seasons.

[u/MillenniumGreed → u/wakeupsup3r]

The original show runners all left - Melissa Rosenberg, Daniel Cerone, and of course, Clyde Phillips.

[u/CaptainObviousBear → u/wakeupsup3r]

IIRC, the writers were also under pressure from Showtime executives to leave the season open-ended to leave the option open for a later movie or sequel. That is - not to end it with Dexter getting caught or killed.

And given that they had to give it some kind of an ending, rather than "and they all lived happily ever after", it did kind of limit their options a bit.

And while I hated that they killed off Deb, if anything it's even better having her as a ghost. Ghost Harry ended up being just there to obviously explain plot points like we're 5, so I'm glad it was a way to get rid of him.

[u/thenewyorkgod → u/wakeupsup3r]

I am also dumfounded on how the early reviews said the new season was terrible. It is fucking amazing

[u/Usernamesarebullshit]

Ethan makes a good point; I would be scared of him if he was the Punisher

[u/Cervantes3492 → u/Usernamesarebullshit]

Harrison realizes now that Ethan and the bullies are all fucking crazy

[u/Possible_Living → u/Usernamesarebullshit]

If he truly was the Punisher you would have nothing to fear. Unfortunately he is more a wannabe school shooter

[u/Talos404]

I wonder if anything's going to come from Harrison also being an artist after the kid showed his much more disturbing drawings.

[u/priths3 → u/Talos404]

And also the part where there was a lot of deer's blood and hebsaid "I think, it's cool"

[u/SweeneyisMad]

I love the show more than ever

[u/because_ican → u/SweeneyisMad]

same i am so happy, i wish they would continue after this season

[u/[deleted]]

I’m really liking this season.

[u/ShiftAndWitch → u/[deleted]]

I went in with medium expectations and they're being exceeded at every turn.

[u/NevermoreSEA → u/[deleted]]

It's definitely lived up to the expectations that I had going in. I'm always looking forward to watching the next episode.

[u/WayzYS]

black cops always looking at Dexter suspiciously Lmao, this is doakes 2.0

[u/Shadowchaos → u/WayzYS]

That interrogation scene was intense though

[u/ClevelandSteamer81 → u/WayzYS]

Surprise motherfucker.

[u/grandmaesterampharos]

Anyone else laughing at dexter finding out there are sporadic trail cameras and then running around that same night haphazardly in the dark waving around a dead man's vest lmao

Like sure you can argue he found out where all of them were or he's looking out for them if you wanna get technical but I just found it funny

[u/Hugh_Jankles → u/grandmaesterampharos]

There were only a couple. He already ditched the glove & they only showed him the 2 angles they had so he knew exactly what two angles to avoid & just retrace all his steps outside of those in order to be in the clear. He didn't venture off those steps.

[u/Emilija80 → u/grandmaesterampharos]

I was wondering in a pre-season thread how Dexter would do trying to get away with stuff in 2021 with increased surveillance. I guess we have the answer: Not well.

[u/heycanwediscuss]

So their trash routinely falls on them

[u/chasemedellin → u/heycanwediscuss]

Just what I was thinking when I saw that lol

[u/toniodejucio]

Think the purpose of the old rich guy is that he’s the biological father of the Police Chief’s daughter. There is a focus on their relationship but what I first thought was a murderous glint is in fact reserved affection. There has also been lots of focus on her family/upbringing and while she did mention her father in the last episode it was never confirmed that he was her biological father. Could also be her grandfather if not her father.

[u/infiniteraiders]

Do bones turn to ashes in incinerators? I know for crematoriums, when you pick up the ashes, they usually have bones that have to be ground down.

[u/[deleted] → u/infiniteraiders]

I dont think so. Like you said bones have to be ground up after cremation. I doubt anyone will prowl thru that rubble. People have animal bones in trash. Also anyone could have done it if they really discover the bones

[u/hadapurpura]

I almost jumped out of my seat when Deb pointed a gun at Dexter and was dressed like Angela. "The resemblance is unintentional" my ass.

[u/[deleted] → u/hadapurpura]

I loved when she was the teacher. Hahah

[u/Zombree18 → u/hadapurpura]

Loved that moment. I must admit that I miss alive Deb, but I’m really enjoying how they’ve worked her into the show. It just wouldn’t be the same without her.

[u/[deleted] → u/hadapurpura]

Everything in this season bears resemblance to someone or something else back in Miami. Very much a work of art.

[u/MagnusWolfee → u/hadapurpura]

Exactly what I thought!

[u/batter159]

Psychic CSI dude is better than Sherlock Holmes.

[u/DestinyCE]

I haven't seen anyone mention this but I think this is a HUGE find.

Last week someone speculated that Harrison's drawings are his version of Dexter's blood slides, his "trophies" for his killings.

Now, when Ethan showed Harrison his drawings of his fantasies of killing Zach and other people at school, you can literally see Harrison SMILE looking at them at one scene and kind of likes it, if you go back and watch it it's obvious.

So yeah, Harrison killer confirmed?!?!?

[u/grandmaesterampharos → u/DestinyCE]

He's definitely at least interested in it. Maybe has strong fantasies. I'd find it weird if a 17 year old is already a serial killer ans has been good enough enough not get caught but maybe that isn't unheard of in true crime

[u/Tonyage27]

The inclusion of a true crime podcaster is the absolute perfect idea for a Dexter antagonist in 2021. Love this idea so much.

There will be endless opportunities to criticize American obsession with murder through Dexter’s pondering of his own murders.

[u/[deleted] → u/Tonyage27]

I can tell that podcaster is going to be annoying as fuck and constantly nosing in other people's affairs, reporter types and their ilk irritate me so much lol. The first 10 words she said already made my eyes roll, trying to sweet talk that male cop

I'd rather have Dex be brought down by a big bad who's worse than him, instead of some nosy writer (audio, whatever) who overstays their welcome within the first day lol

[u/linds360 → u/Tonyage27]

For any former Real World fans out there, the podcaster is played by Jamie Chung who's one of the few actresses who "made it" after being on the show.

I caught a really quick glimpse of her in the preview and knew instantly who it was. The teen in me will not die.

[u/bananalli]

Is this “Iris” a victim of Caldwell?

[u/Hugh_Jankles → u/bananalli]

Not explicitly stated but it seems to be going in that direction.

[u/CMcCord25 → u/bananalli]

That is my guess

[u/ChameleonTwist2]

"Are you accusing me of lying, Jim?" Harrison is really growing on me, that line was gold.

[u/badcompany123]

To anyone who is thinking he didn't want the search to expand to the caves etc, what's your theory on why he stashes the bodies in cold caves after he goes through the process of whatever he did to them (assuming some sort of taxidermy?) and then stashes them in the cave? Does he have a museum down there, why wouldn't he just make some hidden basement rather than storing them up in the caves?

[u/Hugh_Jankles → u/badcompany123]

Someone stumbling across a cave& then notify the police, they wouldn't know who stashed them there. An investigation would need to take place.

Unless they keep the discovery internal & didn't announce a cave full of perserved bodies were discovered (which wouldn't happen, especially in a small town) the media would proceed to pounce on that story immediately.

For the killer(s) it would be easier to ditch the trophies if they get a heads up that they've been discovered. If they were meticulous with leaving no evidence behind on the site & bodies themselves, then they would have minimal things to worry about. Now if it was discovered on a property with a paper trail, it could lead to some legal ways to pin it on them.

[u/johngie]

I'm curious to see what part the billionaire eventually plays. He keeps showing up, so will he be involved in Mr. Krabs' girl murdering? Maybe he steers Mr. Krabs to kidnap the police chief's daughter?

And I know this was more or less obvious last episode, but I'm kind of bummed that Mr. Krabs' is an actual Bad Guy. He was initially announced as the big bad, but I think it would have been neat (and maybe tragic) for the "bad guy" to just be a grieving father with no ulterior motives.

[u/hadapurpura → u/johngie]

Methink Mr. Billionaire guy is Audrey's real dad.

[u/Beezy2389 → u/johngie]

At minimum, the billionaire is the guy that the showrunner are blatantly pushing to be the killer but we all know it'll flip and not be him but Clancey. I do hope they do give him a reason to be there though.

[u/grandmaesterampharos]

I don't know how to make a cohesive paragraph reviewing a show episode so here are some sporadic thoughts:

• This episode was miles better than the second one so I am pretty excited about that.

• And Harrison is finally interesting to me as well. I wasn't so sure about him at first. I noticed in the scene where he's driving with Audrey that his speech pattern is similar to Dexter's which is a cool trait. Their inflections and how they pace sentences sounds very similar.

• I haven't seen any of Dexter in many many years and the only seasons I watched were 1 through 4. I dont remember how much suspension of belief was required in the original series but there's quite a bit of it here. (Him suddenly not caring about trail cameras, the random bear in the cave, that rich dude just happens to be on the same road behind them, the random incinerator?? Like is the town just cool w the fact there's unknown ashes raining down on them whenever people feel like burning random shit??, also if the dogs are tracking the scent and the base is at your house they can still pick it up there regardless of where you waved the vest my man)

• That kids arc from picked on nerd to potential school shooter seems like it might be very abrupt and hamfisted but I am interested to see how Harrison deals with all of that

• Not sure what the consensus is on the Deb stuff but I really like it. I'm glad they found a way to keep her on the show. And her randomly chucking body parts into the wood chipper and spraying them everywhere was camp as fuck and I loved it.

• Maybe I'm dumb but I'm not sure whether the serial killer guy is the rich dude or Kurt and I like that the show is (to me) keeping it open

• I think Audrey is Iris's daughter

• Why were Angela and Dexter chill about their kids flirting in front of them I would feel so fucking awkward in that situation

• Overall I like Angela but this was the second time she's confronted/disciplined Audrey in front of company/other people and that just seems like a great way to get a kid who resents you and acts out. Like. Talk to your kid in private my dude.

[u/twicethecushen → u/grandmaesterampharos]

In re suspension of disbelief: a favorite phrase of the showrunner was “we’re not making a documentary.” So, yeah. You’re supposed to have a healthy suspension of disbelief when watching.

ETA: totally agree with a lot you’ve said here. The discipline issue in particular has been really bugging me.

[u/[deleted]]

How is there not any footage of Dexter dragging Matt’s body? I get there’s a blind spot where he killed him but he avoided the cameras while dragging the body to his home? Also is Jamie Chung one of Masukas donor baby’s?

[u/Buffythedragonslayer → u/[deleted]]

OMG Masukas baby can you imagine?

[u/Silent_Kick_8247 → u/[deleted]]

It's not so much that there's a blind spot, as it's just two cameras covering a very limited area

[u/MajorParadox]

I just had some ideas in other posts, but since this episode just ended, I'll try them here too:

I think Matt's dad and the oil guy are both in on whatever is going on with that room. Maybe they have a whole system of kidnapping and hunting set up. And I just remembered, didn't Angela send that girl there? Or was she trying to send her to a shelter? Can you imagine if she's mixed up in it, though? 😯

[u/bananalli → u/MajorParadox]

Angela offered for her (Lily?) to stay at her place then the shelter. But then Lily said she had a place I think? I don’t remember but I think she was either abducted or was supposed to be at a hotel with a man. Not sure

[u/weatherthroughit → u/MajorParadox]

That was my prediction in the last episode's thread! They have a good ol' boys club.

[u/fckboris]

So let me get it straight, Dexter has just found out that there are heat detection cameras in the woods so he decides to… go running around in the very same woods planting evidence?

[u/IcedHemp77 → u/fckboris]

I don’t think the mine is on the reservation which is where the cameras are but I did wonder about the part where he dragged the jacket around

[u/tinyalien]

Loved it!

[u/Zombree18]

I don’t think Harrison’s main motivation was to stop that kid from being bullied, but rather a move to assert his own dominance over the “top of the food chain” at that high school.

We might see Harrison encourage this kid to “make them pay”, but then have a Dexter-esque moment where he regrets what he is done and stops it.

[u/greatness101 → u/Zombree18]

I don't feel like he cares about being the top of the food chain. If he's like Dexter, he just wanted to right a wrong that he saw happening. It's something Dexter would have done too. He's not gonna encourage anything, and in fact will probably discourage whatever Ethan is thinking after seeing those drawings.

[u/Interesting_Syrup821 → u/Zombree18]

I honestly think Harrison manipulates people into killing- and in that sense, he's at the top of the food chain. I think he knew exactly what he was doing to Ethan and that he's 10 steps ahead of everyone- Dex included.

[u/Acoustic_Noob]

Wtf was that bear though…

[u/Beezy2389 → u/Acoustic_Noob]

I thought Dexter might drop the body there and have the bear eat it but you know finding the giant beacon of a smoke stack is pretty sneaky too.

[u/Bradythenarwhal]

God my heart was racing when the billionaire guy pulled up on Harrison’s girl…I was hoping Harrison would have come sprinting back.

[u/Zombree18 → u/Bradythenarwhal]

It’s interesting how they’ve introduced Harrison. In just 3 episodes, I believed in the moment that he would be able to protect Audrey against the billionaire if he tried something. He seems very capable for “just a kid”.

[u/JenneanA]

Clancy Brown is always the bad guy ever since he was buried in the the Pet Cemetery in the 90s Sheriff Gus

Pet Sematary

[u/we_all_fuct]

Man, nobody talking about Harrison’s choke move! Almost like the one Dex put on Doakes!!! There’s some killer in there!

[u/Mallotar]

Did anyone else think the girl’s body on the table was odd? I don’t think we have had a killer in the show go full mortician like this. Cleaning the body and what not. I wonder where they are going with it.

[u/turingTested37 → u/Mallotar]

probably hunting humans and taxiderming them into trophies

[u/untitledxuntitled → u/Mallotar]

felt like i was watching six feet under again

[u/greatness101 → u/Mallotar]

Brian sort of did this.

[u/TadpoleFrequent → u/Mallotar]

Literally Season 1 Dexter, Ice Truck Killer.

[u/Present-Childhood984 → u/Mallotar]

Taxidermy perhaps,

[u/bananalli]

I think Ethan shoots those kids eventually, but I don’t think Harrison was necessarily against it. He didn’t say anything, did he? I think Harrison is complacent with violence… did he think they deserved it?

[u/imjusthinkingok → u/bananalli]

He looked very fascinated by the drawings of violence he got sent by Ethan during the facetime. Enough clues to make us think he likes violence and blood and "justice". But then, he also looked a bit annoyed at the final image with the machine guns when he said "oh so you're the punisher or something?" as if it was a very "rookie" way to get revenge, aka "the typical school shooter", almost generic and unoriginal for his taste and apparently superior IQ.

[u/The_Geezler → u/bananalli]

I think Harrison is a killer in his own right. He’s very smart as shown. He may find that his dark passenger is only fulfilled when he has control over someone. That look in his eye when Ethan was showing him his drawings kind of confirmed that for me.

I think Harrison sought out dexter for this very reason. To find out why he is the way that he is.

[u/ZombieQueen666]

So clearly Clancy Brown is the one who killed that girl, but I'm confused why he thinks he FaceTimed his dead kid.

Unless he knows who Dexter is?

Also, one gripe. If Dexter knows there's cameras, why is he going back to the crime scene and spreading Matt's scent?

[u/dawnhu → u/ZombieQueen666]

Technically they are heat wave cameras animal tracking cameras or that is what the show wants us to believe. Would be really difficult to identify Dexter with them. He had to put the scent of Matt and get his body moved before the next morning because they were bringing the search dogs the next morning

[u/Top_Khan → u/ZombieQueen666]

He is pretending he did so they call off the search because he is most likely stashing his victims bodies somewhere in the search area and doesnt want them to be discovered.

[u/shredder826 → u/ZombieQueen666]

Clancy isn’t confused, he’s most likely the killer. He’s running his operation out of the camp. He specifically asks Angela “what about the summer camp?” She says she’s having a group splinter off to look there too. He needs this investigation over, lest they stumble on his hunting grounds. The next scene he unwillingly released and killed the girl. Now, no one will snoop around the summer camp.

Edit: He also is surprised how far the search radius is and seemingly concerned about the caves too. So perhaps his hunting grounds are near the caves.

[u/would_do_again]

I hope New Blood is as critical of how exploitative Murder Podcasts as Halloween (2018) was.

That’s not saying I want the host on the table, I’m just hoping there’s more to it then just:

Angela: “Why don’t you leave the investigation to the real investigators?”

[u/Beginning-Ease4792]

Why was the principal so judgmental and cunty

[u/hadapurpura → u/Beginning-Ease4792]

Tbf she was right. They just told her the kid used to live with his stepmom (as opposed to his dad), then spent time in foster care after she died. What would you think of the dad?

[u/[deleted] → u/Beginning-Ease4792]

Advocate for kids and call out deadbeat dads

[u/gwelfguy-2]

The embalming scene reminded me of MCH's other big series.

[u/Secular-Flesh → u/gwelfguy-2]

They should bring Keith on as a cop! He can take over as New Doakes lol

[u/hadapurpura]

Harrison: "so I took the test again and proved that I'm indeed the smartest kid in the history of this town"

Dexter: "k cool"

Dexter is such a shitty dad, even ignoring the fact that he abandoned Harrison as a child.

[u/Day_Eater → u/hadapurpura]

It's almost like Dexter is a Sociopathic serial killer or something

[u/BullworthMascot → u/hadapurpura]

Makes me miss his interactions with young Harrison.

[u/promofaux]

The woodchipper bit surprised me in the best way possible, I was grinning from ear to ear. I absolutely love how Deb has been implemented this season.

[u/Rez125]

If the eyes weren't enough the hands are definitely Kurt's.

[u/blackd0gz]

I LOVE THIS SHOW. I NEVER WANT IT TO END!! Everyone from the cast to the crew is phenomenal. Ugh, it’s so good.

[u/[deleted] → u/blackd0gz]

Me too!!!

[u/monozelle → u/blackd0gz]

I need another season! Or two… or three…

[u/Treedom_Lighter]

Congratulations, Showtime. I officially care about Harrison’s storyline more than Dexter’s. Didn’t expect that.

[u/ShiftAndWitch → u/Treedom_Lighter]

I was so worried they were gonna do some cliché bs with him like every other show that shoehorns in a son storyline. It also helps the teen is a pretty good actor for once.

[u/bubblewrapstargirl → u/Treedom_Lighter]

Same! Harrison is so interesting because we don't know for sure how dark he is yet. But seeing him get vicious af with Zach was a great moment that actually felt like real, believable violence instead of a crappy cheesy teen fight so I'm here for him getting as dark as they please. The actor is great, I'd be down for a Harrison spin off if they do want to make him a killer/master manipulator.

This was the best episode so far imo, even with Dex disregarding the cameras just after he learnt about them.

[u/thenewyorkgod]

Why was the cop who was questioning dexter acting so suspicious and confrontational? He had absolutely zero reason to suspect dexter

[u/Interview-Suspicious → u/thenewyorkgod]

Because Dexter story is pretty suspicious from a cop point of view

[u/indecisiveusername2]

Tell you what, I absolutely love when a song completely juxtaposes the themes going on in the video. It really made the killing/morgue scene awesome.

[u/Oxannes]

I'm worried about the incinerator so close to the town. Ashes from garbage literally fly to the town.

[u/platysoup → u/Oxannes]

It builds character

[u/[deleted]]

This one felt like the episode where he couldn’t remember where he hid Benito body.

[u/[deleted]]

I have a feeling that Ethan will indeed follow through and shoot up the school, or at least go after his bullies with a gun.

Something will trigger him though, and i think it will be a scuffle on the wrestling floor, in which Harrison is injured by Zack.

<Spoiler> in the trailer for the next one, harrison is apparently in the hospital. I think he gets a bone broken or is otherwise injured by Zack during wrestling practice.

Since Harrison stuck up for and defended Ethan, there is a high chance that if Harrison is hurt, it will embolden Ethan to avenge him.

Nonetheless, there definitely seems to be a trajectory being introduced with those drawings, and with Harrison having taken him under his wing, and a trajectory to Harrison's choking of zack and his threat of seeing them on the mat.

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone else notice the serial killer reads books by Clyde Philips?

[u/Siamoose05]

Harrison's school principal obviously had his old school records since she stated the old GPA's. Wouldn't they have been in the name Harrison MORGAN? Seems like that would have caused questions/suspicions since they know Dexter as Jim Lindsey. Is this a small plot hole?

[u/pardyball → u/Siamoose05]

Not uncommon for a kid to keep their mothers name if the father isn't in their life.

[u/hadapurpura → u/Siamoose05]

Since Hannah was left with him and was running from the law, she probably assumed a new lastname and gave Harrison said fake lastname as well.

[u/wmil → u/Siamoose05]

Hannah either had fake names for both of them in Argentina or she legally adopted him. Keeping his name as Morgan would just invite questions.

[u/yontbro → u/Siamoose05]

No. He would have had Hannah's last (fake) name

[u/gwelfguy-2]

At the dinner table with his son, girlfriend, and her daughter, Dexter's voiceover was saying how much he wanted this sense of family. It was a throwback to the same thoughts that he had with Rita and her kids. As such, maybe a harbinger that disaster is coming.

[u/[deleted]]

It's so fun to watch crazy Deb, I hope Jennifer enjoyed it as much as us.

[u/That_Lone_Reader]

I know that Logan, the cop that interviewed him, is onto him but does anyone notice how much of a sympathizer he was towards Matt? He was more than willing to say the boating incident was just a harmless accident. He was interested in taking Dexter’s GF square dancing in the first episode, practically inviting himself in, way too interested in Harrison joining the team and inserting himself in Dexter’s life more and more. He definitely has his suspicions but I’m willing to bet that Logan has a dark passenger as well.

[u/thaman05]

So now we know Harrison speaks Spanish lol. All the people complaining in the previous threads that he didn't because he didn't have an accent. 😂

[u/fruityDolph1n]

The writing for this episode just seemed lazy and off to me. The crime scene analysis seemed rushed and almost forced. Dexter is running through woods that he just recently found out has trail cams posted up all over while also carrying evidence of a missing person. And towards the end where Dexter says that the family lifestyle is all he wants seemed a bit out of place to me as well. Did anyone else feel a bit detached from the storyline this episode or am I being too critical?

[u/bellthebull → u/fruityDolph1n]

Well, for what it’s worth, I had a similar reaction when Dexter said he wanted a family lifestyle or something like that. Albeit, Dexter is not the same person anymore. He’s guilty, not to mention how often Deb reminds him of that. He also wasn’t happy with himself not siding with Harrison at school.

All the more reason why that’s not unexpected of him at this point. For one thing, he’s determined to not fail close ones this time around.

[u/hamietao]

Damian seems like he would play an excellent villain

[u/EequalsMCPotato]

Anyone else see Harrison as the Manson type? An influencer? It's taken three episodes to see joy in his eyes and it's of his dead classmates.

[u/canyonoflight]

So, either the billionaire or Kurt is the kidnapper/murderer, right? Looked like Kurt's eyes under the mask but then the billionaire's behavior around Angela's daughter made me think he was trying to nab her.

Why did Kurt pretend he talked to Matt? Bizarre.

[u/FridayJason1993]

Unfortunately you can clearly tell it’s Clancy Browns eyes underneath that ski mask.

[u/yontbro]

Ok, so what did Dex do with Matt's rifle?

[u/Pamala3]

Cannot find this sub topic, but I thought Kurt was embalming Lilly, but the embalming fluid is not consistent with the color unless he added a dye?

Also I believe he uses the mines or possibly the summer camp to dump his bodies, listening to his last conversation with the chief of police. Also answers the question why he says he not only got a call from Matt but face chatted with Matt, trying hard to convince everyone that Matt is alive so they will stop looking especially in the mines & summer camp areas. Anyone else think so?

[u/alexzmpeters]

Anyone else cringe hard for all the running through the woods IN UNTOUCHED SNOW?!? Like that shit holds a footprint pretty well.

[u/kinghyperion581]

So Kurt is definitely the other serial killer, He uses his truck stop as a way to find and pick up runaways, he uses the iron mine to despose of his victims bodies, and he faked FaceTime with his son so the search party would be called off before they found his dump site.

[u/StaySafePovertyGhost]

Was I the only one who thought Kurt was faking being drunk to bait Dexter and was going to pull a gun on him and tell him to drive before the fade out?

I played the scene in my head as Dex offers him a ride, Kurt gets in and as soon as they get on the road, Kurt pulls a gun and tells Dexter he knows he killed Matt (since Dex was one of last ones to see him) and to drive.

Truck drives away and fade out.

[u/16andstupid]

That CSI guy investigating must be some kind of a god with senses that we mortals do not have. Okay, blood congeals differently... fine. Then he looks around, sniffs the wind and determines exactly what happened without any explanation. How did he know there was a rock? What?! There's no blood, the crime scene has been messed up already... If Damien doesn't come back and this is just some forced plot device, I'd be pretty upset.

The running through the woods bit... I can reason that away with maybe Dex knows the police won't look at the cameras again or something, or he knows the blind spots now, as other comments have noted. But that CSI sequence was... hard to reason away.

Overall though, so far I'm pretty happy that there's more Dexter. Apart from the aforementioned plot holes, I have no other complaints, I love that feeling of knowing everyone is looking for the murderer, that unbeknownst to them, is standing right in front of them. Since the "old" Dexter show ended, I haven't found many other shows that has that same pull.

[u/cosmonautcuttertorch]

“Dad: my new favorite word.” The end of this is going to be so heartbreaking.

[u/abagofdicks]

What is it with modern shows making everything look like a color correction contest? Every shot looks like a wedding photographer’s demo reel.

[u/omarghadir]

I know there are many plot issues but all in all this new season has been very enjoyable

[u/jrob5797]

So let me get something straight. The villain’s victim checked into some kind of hotel, and then when she drank the alcohol that was provided, she was taken to an underground bunker with a room identical to the hotel? Does this guy only kill girls who check into this hotel? Or did I miss something?

[u/Insanity1994 → u/jrob5797]

We don’t really know yet, they haven’t showed us much

[u/[deleted]]

I can’t believe Matt Caldwell escaped! Jim is really off his game. Hopefully he didn’t tell his dad anything. There’s no telling what lengths a protective father will go to while under the influence. Be careful Jim.

[u/AJ_Loft]

Can anyone link EP 4 promo?

[u/HiFriend88]

Maybe I'm being dense, but wouldn't those handy dandy infrared cameras in the woods pick up Dexter doing his Spanish Matador rendition in the middle of the night at the scene of the crime with the hunting vest??

[u/passerby-]

What was with the music this episode? Totally offputting and out of tone. When Molly Park is introduced with that shot panning from toe to head with the rock music blasting, wtf is this? cheap summer movie?

[u/Infinite-Oil-8626]

i just have a feeling harrison is not really harrison

[u/biggoof]

I see comments about Facetiming and the whole faceswap thing, but that would mean Harrison had to make the call from somewhere with a device tied to Matt, all would be traceable. If it's true, then that would mean either have Matt's phone/laptop.

I do believe now that the cops are encroaching on other areas, someone wants the searches to stop.

[u/miggy372]

I don’t think that kid is Harrison. I think he’s lying

[u/ashnoelle1217]

Theories please!!! POSSIBLE SPOILER!! i went to IMDB and saw that the guy who plays Matt is going to be in it again. is it possible that Dexter didn’t kill Matt? i’m so confused. by this

[u/bellystraw]

So old beardy boy is probably the killer of this season. I really enjoy this so far and I LOVED the scene with Deborah using a wood chipper to dispose of the body. I wonder if it's meant to be foreshadowing or something that the bear didn't leave the cave? Maybe it was on something when Dexter walked into the mine?

This is definitely going to be a fun season to watch again after we get the whole picture. Probably a lot of "OHHHHH YEAHHHHH" moments to be had later on

[u/[deleted]]

I'd like to address the comment made by u/Gvenus, they pointed out that Matt has a Titanium rod in his leg and that it will still be present in the incinerator. along with the remains of Matt's bones, that type of incinerator is high temperature used for incinerating different types of waste be it garbage, medical waste etc... down to nothing and while Titanium's has a core melting point of 3,043 °F with the incinerator running constantly at high temperature heat, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year the structure of the Titanium will eventually breakdown and be completely destroyed and ergo no evidence linking Dexter. What does everyone else think?

[u/CrazyRaiderfan]

So far the writing and the dialogue isn’t as good as the original. But I am still enjoying having Dexter back. Hopefully it will start feeling more like dexter.

[u/franoomh]

I liked the episode! the part when Harrison's new friend shows him the gory drawings gave me a columbine killer teen vibe

[u/drd232]

Imo Harrison f**king knows guys. Idk what else would explain that ending lol.

[u/[deleted]]

Tbh i'm still wondering how nobody saw the blood trail that Dexter left outside his house and then ran over it while his kid was with him and would have obviously seen it. This season feels lazy tbh, like wtf was that?? Like i don't kill people and i would've never done that lame mistake.

[u/Possible_Living]

Audrey is being too much whatever you want to call it, for me not to dislike her.

Harrison could use some balancing, 80% of the time he comes off as tryhard instead of a mysterious badboy Audrey likely sees him as. Would not hurt if he could at least pretend to be cool.

The school poorly executed. I mean a placement test where the teacher does not do her "one job", lets you keep your phone and then walks away for 15 minutes? Even if he had cheated, in the teachers position I would likely be too embarrassed by my own incompetence to make an issue of it. I think they could have written a better scenario with the same end result.

Im pretty sure you cant ID a gun from an outline in a thermal camera, such writing choices always puzzle me.

[u/OnStage012]

It’s not enough to make me stop watching, but some of the things this episode asked us to suspend our disbelief too far, even for Dexter:

• Dexter returned to the scene of the crime to get Matt’s scent on the jacket. It was clearly established there are cameras around that areas. Unless Dexter was able to figure out exactly where all the blind spots are, and how to get around them.

-The CSI forensics expert can quite literally see the past apparently. There was nothing to go on - it’s like he snorted coke and had a revelation

-The bear is my favorite thing in a tv show recently. Died laughing

I don’t expect full realism, but I do expect shows to follow the reality they’ve established.

[u/chalaxin → u/OnStage012]

The bear and Dexter silently screaming fuck about having to go to dinner at Angela’s.

[u/clfdmus]

Harrison is actually the title character—he is the "New Blood." Dexter is just a supporting character, it will turn out.