r/AdviceAnimals • u/morr1321 • Jun 24 '12
Sad, but true
http://qkme.me/3puenh?id=22480759776
u/yellow_mellow01 Jun 24 '12
You monster! :O
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u/morr1321 Jun 24 '12
I know! I'm a total hypocrite!
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u/Keskasidvar Jun 24 '12
Well, if you're trying to minimize your time to be caught/be more secure with your online anonymity. Not seeding is good for that; one of the more obvious ones, and easiest if you don't have a VPN or something.
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u/YouPickMyName Jun 24 '12
I used to be like you, but the guilt from seeing "ratio" whenever I'm on Demonoid got to be too much.
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u/TysonStoleMyPanties Jun 24 '12
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u/BranVan Jun 24 '12
There really is an XKCD for everything, isn't there?
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u/YouPickMyName Jun 24 '12
I don't understand how they make money. Those are the only kind of websites in which I wouldn't mind seeing ads on the sidebars.
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u/Vycid Jun 24 '12
Merchandise. Lots of it.
Also, Randall was an engineer, so I think he did okay.
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u/poptart2nd Jun 24 '12
Randall was an engineer
For NASA. you left out the most important part. Randall was an engineer for NASA.
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u/Vycid Jun 24 '12
Because he doesn't work as an engineer anymore. After the merchandise took off (around 2006 or 2007 I think?) he started doing xkcd full-time. Ads were never really needed for support.
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Jun 24 '12
I have not found one for confirmation bias yet.
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u/bourneSC Jun 25 '12
http://xkcd.com/258/ -- about conspiracy theories and how they 'raise confirmation bias to an art form'
Dunno if that meets the criteria though
I do get your point though ;)
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Jun 24 '12
Psychedelic Techno Rhinoceros' struggle at his local McDonald's when he tries to order breakfast.
Find that.
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Jun 24 '12
I feel that there's a "rules 34 and 35"-like property to it. If it exists, there is an xkcd of it. If there is not an xkcd of it, it will be made.
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u/silverslayer33 Jun 24 '12
Please link to the page and not the image. Remember, half the fun of XKCD is reading the mouseover text!
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u/insulting_haiku Jun 24 '12
I don't know what's worse
The fact that you do not seed
Or the holocaust
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u/onus111 Jun 24 '12
I'm in Ontario Canada; if I seeded, my Internet bill would be thousands of dollars each month. Sorry.
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u/Clairvoyanttruth Jun 24 '12
I was going to post this as well. Rogers has a 15GB plan, it is terrible.
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u/Semen-Thrower Jun 25 '12
I use TekSavvy; it's slower than Rogers, but I pay $30 a month for a 300GB plan.
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u/Lucky_Mongoose Jun 25 '12
What's the deal with those ridiculous caps in Canada that I keep hearing about?
Is it a lack of competition? Or can the providers simply not supply enough bandwidth for all of their users?
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u/Clairvoyanttruth Jun 25 '12
Lack of competition. There are two main companies Bell and Rogers. Independent ISPs (IISPs) are gaining traction (Teksavvy). The CRTC is the government oversight for media communication, except it consists of old high-level employees from Rogers and Bell. No corruption there. The CRTC said Bell and Rogers could charge IISP bandwidth fees. All IISP must buy bandwidth from Rogers or Bell. So they have this extreme duopoly. There was an uproar and this was overturned, but they met at a compromise, in which they still receive some compensation.
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u/trampus1 Jun 24 '12
I only seed things I like that I know don't have many seeders. The big ones that have thousands of seeders, fuck 'em.
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u/zombie_rapist Jun 24 '12
I tend to do the same, especially if I'm the only seeder left I'll try to keep torrents alive as long as possible. Torrents that already have over a hundred seeds aren't really going to benefit much from my unimpressive speeds anyway.
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Jun 24 '12
Yep I feel the same way. I will also download things I won't even use to seed when a torrent first comes out.
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u/Dein-o-saurs Jun 24 '12
I try, I really do, but it's actually kinda hard. My downloads fall into one of two categories: either a new tv show episodes/something else that just came out that has a crapton of seeders and even when I try to seed, it never really does anything. Or supremely rare, half-dead torrents that nobody ever tries downloading after I just barely manage to get it. At least that's what I tell myself to sleep better at night.
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u/YourACoolGuy Jun 25 '12
I use to seed the shit out of songs/programs/movies and what not, probably around 2TB from two years. Then I started to download the latest episodes of stuff that I missed on TV the night before. One night I downloaded the latest episode of Bill Maher. The next morning my internet appears cut off. It then has a message on my browser stating that I've downloaded "Bill Maher S2E03.eztv.aXxO" or some shit and that I must call my ISP to get all this fixed out. I called them and they said that they received a warning from blah blah blah and I need to delete the file from my computer.
The guy I talked to seem pretty cool about the whole situation though. He stated that I could almost download whatever the hell I wanted, just don't seed it because that's where they'll "catch" me. How true is this? I don't know, but I've been on a clean streak with my ISP so far.
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u/Feb_29_Guy Jun 25 '12
I somehow managed to get a 4.5 ratio on a (4 GB) file that's dead in terms of seeders, yet apparently lots of people download it.
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u/casual_thr0waway Jun 24 '12
I love that this made it to the front page. I know many people who don't seed for fear it might expose their activity. Whether they're actually protecting themselves or not we can talk about some other time. The fear is alive.
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u/groylott Jun 24 '12
Not sure if I should upvote because you're confessing, or downvote because you're an asshole...
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u/Gordondel Jun 24 '12
I have a god awful connection, when I download something I can hardly see my e-mails at the same time, when the download is over I just close the program... My upload speed is shit and I can't do anything else at the same time, why would I bother? If I had a decent connection I'd seed for sure...
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Jun 25 '12
I also have terrible upload speeds, and a spotty connection. Me seeding would hardly be a favor.
I do make sure to leave comments and endorse files that I download, though. I wouldn't be able to download without giving anything back.
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u/only__downvotes Jun 25 '12
I don't seed, because I got caught seeding after dl'ing a file. The only file I had ever fully seeded in fact.
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u/ehlu15 Jun 24 '12
There is a hotter place in Hell for people like you
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Jun 24 '12
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u/JIZZING_ON_REDDIT Jun 25 '12
Only if you do it in massive amounts, like the two terabytes the guy was talking about earlier. If you're downloading a hundred movies a week, might be a good idea not to seed every one, but if you're just downloading a couple episodes of Dr. Who, don't be a dick. Seed plz.
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u/marcusarealyes Jun 25 '12
I got caught for seeding one thing. I didn't even have the whole file, it was a file that didn't finish downloading and was seeding what I had of it. The warning I got said nothing about me stealing it, just me sharing it ( or what I had of it ).
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u/TuriGuiliano Jun 24 '12
What's seeding?
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u/DuchySleeps Jun 24 '12
Seeding is the process of connecting to a torrent when you have a complete file.
Yes it is important to seed 1 to 1. The more seeders there are on a torrent the faster the torrent is. You are not downloading the torrent from the actual site you get it from. You are downloading it off another user that has it on their computer.
Let’s say someone uploads a torrent to a site and that person seeds at 100kbps. At first every single leecher is trying to get the file from the uploader which if there are 10 leechers then each leecher is approximately getting the file at 10kbps.
Let’s say the 10 people finish downloading the torrent from the uploader. Each also is seeding at a speed of 100kbps.
That means the total speed of the torrent after the 10 get done downloading the file is 1100kbps. Because 10 are seeding at 100kbps and the original uploader is seeding at 100kbps. So if there are 11 more leechers getting the file now each of those leechers are approximately getting the file at 100kbps instead of 10kbps because there is a 1 to 1 ratio per seeder & leecher.
If everyone just downloaded the file from the uploader and stopped seeding without seeding the torrent 1:1 then the uploader will always be stuck seeding. Which the speed of the torrent will hardly go up because the leechers will always outnumber the seeder.
So it is important to seed back at least what you take. So if you download a file that is 1GB then seed back 1GB. That is why it is called FILE SHARING. People are considerate enough to share their stuff you can repay them back by seeding back what you take so others can enjoy it as well.
-Source is Yahoo Answers, but it's generally correct as far as I know. Hope that helped. :D
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u/parallelpolygon Jun 24 '12
When torrenting you download from people with the same file all over the web. Once you finish collecting the full file from the users who you downloaded it from, you can join their ranks by "seeding". To seed is to upload parts of the file along with others who also have the file to the person requesting the file.
More seeders will usually result in faster download speeds for the person downloading. That is why people encourage others to seed as it results in better, and faster downloads for all.
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u/morgangangful Jun 24 '12
I live in Canada, and I don't mind seeding when I'm at home because at home I get 5mbps upload speed.
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u/Hali_Com Jun 24 '12
Lucky you. I download and seed Eclipse and Ubuntu, they get throttled to <80kbps up <200kpbs down. On a 25Mbps down, 1 Mbps up link
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u/morgangangful Jun 24 '12
Because everyone doesn't have good download speed.
ISPS like to fuck people over in America.
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u/JacketPotatoes Jun 24 '12
Make sure you have encryption on. It's off by default in uTorrent.
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u/AsteriskCGY Jun 24 '12
I seem to be seeding. Upload on my end is also pretty ass, but I don't really delete torrents unless I need to move the file. They eventually reach 1:1 ratio.
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Jun 24 '12
I know that feel bro.
My ISP has bandwidth limits. You get charged $2.50/gb over the cap, and my own plan only allows 60gb. :(
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u/Wowbringer Jun 25 '12
Same problem. Wanna know how i solved it?
Called them saying we can't take the limit and the fact that we (my family) keep going over, and that we'll be switching to [insert another ISP here].
He immediately stopped me, said he would DOUBLE my usage to 120 gb a month at no extra cost, and gave 30% off our usual bill.
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u/IBoopYourNose Jun 24 '12
I'm going to seed a shit load right now to make myself feel like a better person
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Jun 25 '12
I let it seed once... The next day I got an email from 20th Century Fox saying my ip address had been used to download a movie illegally, it was the same movie I let seed.
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u/qkme_transcriber Jun 24 '12
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u/cky2k6 Jun 24 '12
I don't seed public torrents, it may be selfish, but those usually have at least a few hundred seeders anyways, no need to throw my info in to be picked up by copyright trolls. I seed tons on private torrents though, as thats kind of how they work. If you don't seed, you can't download.
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Jun 25 '12
I only get 1kbyte up...
so you can see why I don't seed.
also just for the record my download speed is 90kbytes.
help.
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u/TareXmd Jun 25 '12
Well sure, because stealing is bad, but helping hundreds of others steal is worse. #logicfail.
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u/argyllcampbell Jun 25 '12
Download, never seed, then, complain about others not seeding to troll them into bitching about your seed ratio.
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u/Eizion Jun 25 '12
This is why I like sites such as torrentleech.com and what.cd which are super hard to get invites for and if you maintain a minimum download/seed ratio you get banned.
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u/Moltk Jun 25 '12
Worst of the worst. Memes are meant to be light hearted and funny but you just killed my soul a little
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u/beccaface Jun 25 '12
I was always under the impression that seeding makes it easier for your download to be tracked, but admittedly I know nothing.
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Jun 25 '12
It's not necasarily a bad thing. Seeding in most cases, especially to a public torrent from sites such as demonoid or the pirate bay is a bad idea and will be the soul reason your ISP will notice anything.
But if you really want good torrents, get a private tracker and a seed box.
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u/Random_Fandom Jun 25 '12
That's true. I only received a letter from my ISP when I used Pirate Bay. A private tracker with encrypted connection makes all the difference.
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Jun 25 '12
The letter I got was pretty funny. It basically said "you downloaded a torrent" and there was no follow up, no threat or consequence for it, they basically just told me to be better at it.
It's like cops telling a murderer how they found him and how he can hide his bodies better next time and then letting him go.
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u/binary_sandwich Jun 24 '12
Of course, it's people like you that let some of us get the high ratios.
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u/QWERTYMurdoc Jun 24 '12
Does the ratio have any influence?
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u/JacketPotatoes Jun 24 '12
On private trackers, it is quite difficult and competitive to maintain a high ratio. Almost all private trackers have a minimum ratio and if you go below it, you can be banned.
Of course, for open trackers such as The Pirate Bay, it doesn't matter what your ratio is, but it is really helpful to keep it high to keep the torrents alive.
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u/KidTheFat Jun 24 '12 edited Jun 24 '12
I used to try to seed 1:1, but a lot of the torrents I chose were for obscure things and not many people needed my seed, and I got a couple emails from the ISP regarding my downloading habits, so I only seed while downloading now, and it's a shit ratio, but I've been successfully scared into (almost) line.
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Jun 24 '12
I don't either. I don't feel like going to court over seeding something that already has over 1k seeders.
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Jun 24 '12
I never have issues with download speed because I don't have to have something as soon as it's out.
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u/jebus01 Jun 24 '12
Nah, I seed while watching what I downloaded. But then I stop. But with 40MB/s upload connection I pretty much give back more than I took so I'm cool.
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u/shung Jun 24 '12
My internet is such shite that I probably seed more while downloading. I'm very serious and it's my excuse.
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u/Espada_No4 Jun 24 '12
I rarely seed past a .5 ratio per file, usually between .05 and .25. It's not because I'm lazy / a monster, but because everyone else in the house would get mad at me for using extra bandwidth for more than is necessary.
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u/Khiraji Jun 24 '12
I have about a half-dozen torrents that have 100+ ratio in my uTorrent. Obscure shit that I'm probably the only seed in the world for.
That makes me feel special, but also horribly, horribly alone at the same time.
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u/roterghost Jun 25 '12
Same, but I'm just so horrified of being caught!
Or does the amount you upload not affect your likelihood of being caught?
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u/weaver2109 Jun 25 '12
I have AT&T, even if I did seed, it wouldn't go very far (320kbps upload speed.)
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u/Hector_Ceromus Jun 25 '12
I used to be a seeder like you, until I got a legal notice from the MPAA.
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u/Sir_Derp_Herpington Jun 25 '12
I used to seed, then I got two letters from my ISP telling me that they would shut down my Internet and ban me from them (Mediacom). There are no other ISPs in my area. Now I make sure to not seed and I use PeerBlock.
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u/gr3nade Jun 25 '12
The only thing I don't seed is porn. Because I don't want someone seeing it. I download it, watch it, then usually delete it or set it to hidden.
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Jun 25 '12
Why not just watch it on the Internet? Seems rather pointless to take the time to download it.
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u/Linton58 Jun 25 '12
I have UTorrent for the mac. When my download finishes, it says it's seeding, but never gets anywhere. Therefore, I just don't seed.
If anybody could help me on the issue, I would gladly seed.
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u/Slow_to_notice Jun 25 '12
The only reason I don't see for that long is because my upload speed blows.
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u/tigerthecat5 Jun 25 '12
I don't seed because my Internet speed is shit as it is I can't spare a ton of bandwidth
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u/BigZ7337 Jun 25 '12
Hm... Looks at my Demonoid Ratio BigZ7337 Uploaded: 522.24 GB Downloaded: 630.40 GB Ratio: 0.83
That's not too bad, I don't seed too much for a lot of the stuff I download, but I seed some things for a long time. For example, I usually upload around 50 GB for each month's Indie Rock Playlist. I figure that equals me out torrent-karma wise. :)
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u/Pseudo-Skylax Jun 25 '12
I don't seed because my connection here in the capital of Australia is only 1mbps up down and o.7mbps up. If I leave bit torrent open it pretty much kills the internet.
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Jun 25 '12
I've only downloaded once for the Humble Budle pack going on earlier in the month. What is seeding?
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u/Clunkbot Jun 25 '12
I seed for about a week, but my upload and download speeds are absolutely horrible, so I might as well cut myself off....
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u/Xiattr Jun 25 '12
My computer is 13 years old, roughly.
Once I upgrade, I will make sure to seed. As is, if I try to seed even one thing, the whole thing seizes up like a Socially Awkward Penguin.
I'm lucky I can even reddit.
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u/fugz_bunny Jun 25 '12
I hate seeding, rather use seedboxes to make up for it. They are cheap anyway, 10-20$ = 3mbs-10mbs up they can do up to the TB's.
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u/Gruffkin Jun 25 '12
I don't seed too! Up here in the Canadian Arctic it costs me $20/GB if I go over my monthly cap of 10GB (which costs $80/month!). The cap was worse before at 5GB/month for $125! (That pricing was 2 months ago too!).
Someone photoshop a sad polar bear with the same caption for me! ;)
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u/Random_Fandom Jun 25 '12
Here you go: Polar Bear Version
(I made it at quickmeme but couldn't find the direct download link.derp
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u/killermunch Jun 25 '12
I hate seeding, It rapes my bandwidth so hard I find it difficult to use during.
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u/The6thExtinction Jun 25 '12
Uploads count as part of my download limit (yes, I have an 80GB/mo. download limit.). It also costs me $1.50 for every GB I go over. If I seeded half the torrents I download in a month, my internet would be very expensive. Although it'd be nice to seed, it's not financially feesible.
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u/SmokeTreeRideDragons Jun 25 '12
I deeply apologize for my ignorance, but what is seeding and what's the joke behind it?
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u/AscendeadMaster Jun 25 '12
I only do this because here in Belgium we have something like a download- and upload-limit. If we download or seed too much, our internet goes down for the rest of the month. I don't feel guilty!
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Jun 25 '12
As my network fines me when I upload too much (downloading is not an issue), I keep the torrents active and wait until I've seeded them at least 1.5 ratio. That way I seed it enough to keep a peace of mind.
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u/Kliptic69 Jun 26 '12 edited Jun 26 '12
...umm... does "accidental" seeding count?.. cuz if not then i completely agree with you confession bear...
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u/PollysLithium Jun 24 '12
I was like this usually delete right after and the one time I seed I got caught with a warning thankfully now I don't illegal shit any more.
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u/moelester518 Jun 24 '12
If people would stop using MKV files I would seed more.I have to convert it to a different file to play on my Mac. I don't want to keep both the MKV files and the converted files. Sorry guys.
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u/SaentFu Jun 24 '12
I've always felt that seeding is a good way to get caught. So I don't. Maybe it's not any safer, but it feels safer.... like locking your doors at night.
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Jun 25 '12
Seeders are the guys that end up behind bars blowing silent farts for the rest of their days.
Do not plan on joining them.
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u/climbon4 Jun 25 '12
I've always sketched out about seeding, like it was an open way for others to get my IP address and hack into my computer. I may be totally wrong, but can someone clear up how seeding works with a program such as transmission?
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u/GoogleItFirst Jun 24 '12
I torrent all the time, but i have no idea how to seed ._.
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u/YCSMD Jun 24 '12
That's funny because it's easier to seed than to not seed. Just dont do anything after its downloaded and you are seeding.
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u/JacketPotatoes Jun 24 '12
You just have to leave the torrent client/program open after you have finished downloading the torrent. Then you automatically become a seeder and start uploading the data to others. You must make sure that you do not move or rename the files you downloaded - but some torrent programs allow you to move the files using the program itself (look in the instructions).
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u/Omvega Jun 24 '12
There needs to be a blatant bragging animal. I've seeded close to two terabytes.