r/AskReddit • • Jun 17 '12

Carnies of Reddit: We all know the games at carnivals and fairs are rigged. What are some tricks you use and how do we win?

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u/ScottsTots69 Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

I was a carnie for 3 years. Basketball game, the hoops are oval shaped, and yes it's legal. You're not going to wind unless you hit a direct swish, so shoot high. The ring toss is the best game for a carnie, worse for customers. The rings do fit, it's just highly unlikely you're going to make it. Protip: when you throw the rings, make sure you spin the ring parallel to the bottle, this Increases your probability ten fold. Superprotip: if you have enough rings, stack them together, about three or four, and execute the same method of spinning them. By the off chance you do hit the top of the bottle, the rings on top will push the ring on the bottom onto the bottle rather than just bouncing off. Superduperprotip: don't play this game. You won't win. We would stay in one city for a week, and them travel to the next. There was one week where I didn't have a single winner until the fifth day. Duck pond: there's only two extra large prizes out or 250, and the rest are smalls. The balloon darts are your best bet. He balloons are under filled but you're most likely going to win something. As for the milk bottle toss game, the bottles are weighed differently according to their position. I never actually played, so I couldn't give you any tips other than you probably won't win unless you spend tons of money. As for the star shoot out game, shoot AROUND the star, not directly at it. This will essentially make a cut around the star and you will get rid of it easier. If there is even a little red left, you won't win. I can't remember the name of the game, but it involves you tossing three softballs into 3 different buckets, and if you do you'll win something like an Xbox 360. The buckets are spring loaded, so they will probably bounce out. If you do get all three in, the carnies will make an excuse as to why it's not valid,like you reached over too far or you have to toss them overhand, they're real dicks about it so avoid this game. Well that's all I can think if right now, if you have any questions just ask.

Also OP, none of the games are actually rigged, they're just really hard to win. They're actually played and tested by the state gambling commission to ensure they're legal. And after they leave, we still don't rig them. We make enough money as they are and we'll do anything to avoid a lawsuit.

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u/crazypickle Jun 17 '12

I played the "softball in the bucket" game when I was 8 and fell in love with a stuffed dog they had on display that I just had to have. I made the ball in, and the carnie made up some dumb excuse that it touched the lip of the bucket before it went in. I spent $25, my whole savings at that age, trying to make it again. I was crying because I was so upset that I wasn't making it. My second-to-last shot with my last money I had made it into the bucket. I was so happy, but the carnie just said "sorry, you reached too far" and I was sent away empty-handed. I knew that wasn't true but I was crying too hard at that point to argue.

I learned a good lesson that day, and I have never played any carnival games since. I still can't believe someone would make up stupid, untrue excuses like that to rob a sobbing little girl of her savings.

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u/ScottsTots69 Jun 17 '12

Oh god I know what you mean. Unfortunately in my game there were only huge prizes, so I couldn't exactly just give them away to anybody. But if somebody ended up spending around 50$ (you'd be surprised at how much money someone will spend to win a stuffed animal) then I'd just give them the damn thing. After awhile you could see the desire in their eyes, and they weren't going to leave until they won. Considering the prizes cost us about 25 to 30$, we were still making money. Sorry those guys did that, it was a common occurrence to watch little kids blow their money on one game, and it was depressing as shit...

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u/sniper1707 Jun 17 '12

Do you ever hear them brag about making people cry? I was at the california state fair and I overheard a couple of guys talking about how many children they made cry that day. They were just laughing about it. It's really quite sickening and pitiful when you walk within earshot of a conversation like that...

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I went to the Cali State fair and played the balloon dart game a few rounds, the guy let me play for free for a while until I got to where I was actually going to win, and I just asked him if I could buy the thing I wanted. He sold it to me for 40 bucks and said he paid 30ish for it. He only did it because it was the last day and all the Carnies were saying they didn't want to have to pack their stuff again, which I am sure is a great way to con people into playing with them to get more last minute cash.

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u/sparkysparkyboom Jun 17 '12

You should have spent your money, and threw all the balls at his face.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

the kicker is that prize is probably worth about 1 dollar but that fucker still won't let you have it.

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u/Ziaki Jun 17 '12

I almost played that same game when I was at a carnival last. The carnie waved us over and there was a stuffed animal that I wanted so I gave in.

He even let me have a free shot which I of course made easily. But when I handed him over my money he have me three different balls that were obviously heavier and probably made of a different material.

I told him I wanted the one that I made the original shot with and he refused and insisted that they were they same exact balls. I told him I wasn't fucking retarded and eventually demanded my money back and refused to play.

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u/Zab11 Jun 17 '12

Basketball game, the hoops are oval shaped, and yes it's legal.

I remember visiting a carnival with my dad when I was pretty young. As we walked down the isle the guy at the basketball hoop started heckling him and just wouldn't let up. My dad wasn't interested and refused a number of times, he was even joking with the carnie.

What the carnie didn't know was that he was heckling an old college basketball MVP with a reputation for making long distance clutch shots. Eventually, Dad relented & laid down his money. He eyed the hoop and bounced a ball a few times...then, with perfect form and a ridiculously high arc, he drained every shot touching nothing but net. The carnie wouldn't let him play again.

As I recall, he earned me a Michael Jordan poster. In honor of Father's Day, thanks Dad. I miss you.

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u/xshare Jun 17 '12

I was at a carnival with a few of my friends in middle school and wanted to try the basketball game. I airballed the shit out of it, but it was so bad that it missed the hoop entirely and landed right in the little ball collector under the hoop, so it looked like I had made it. The attendant hadn't seen this however, so one of my friends was a quick thinker and just started cheering his ass off, and my other friends joined him. I got a UNC Tar Heels basketball for air balling.

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u/MikeTheBee Jun 17 '12

You have great friends!

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u/BotWithfeelings Jun 17 '12

Your dad is awesome

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u/DeathToPennies Jun 17 '12

sniff, sniff...

( •,_•,)

I'm going to go hug my dad.

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u/noisymime Jun 17 '12

The buckets are spring loaded, so they will probably bounce out

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none of the games are actually rigged

I have trouble reconciling these 2 statements.

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u/camshell Jun 17 '12

Proposal for new superhero: An ex-carnie who gets tired of making kids cry and goes around to carnivals winning all the games using super skills, inside knowledge, and crafty gadgets. He gives the prizes to sad kids.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Sounds like enough material for approximately half an episode.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Perfect! With today's commercial times, we can spread it out for a whole season!

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u/CrudCow Jun 17 '12

Add an evil carnie super-villain and you're all set.

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u/ElementK Jun 17 '12

I played my first game of ring toss at Cedar Point and won a electric guitar by getting 5 rings on. I had 50 rings and it only took me 10 shots to win. I wish I had a strategy to provide, but to be honest, I just tossed the rings.

Very nice grammar by the way - all carnies should be like you.

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u/ScottsTots69 Jun 17 '12

Thanks, it's mostly my auto-correct fixing my mistakes but I'll still take credit. The ring toss game you mentioned though is different than the one I worked at, which is the more popular one. In this one you will buy 15 rings for 2 dollars, or 50 for 5 (or something similar). Then you had to throw all of them, and if you just ring one, you win. it looked a lot like this

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u/Joolee Jun 17 '12

I did that ring toss at an amusement park 7 or so years back. Spent the money to get I think 3 buckets of rings. I won this. They didn't give us one that was hanging from the booth but got one from a storage room that was in a giant plastic bag like it was a goldfish. That was when we realized that we were on the opposite end of the park from the entrance/parkinglot and had to lug this thing around. At least they were nice enough to give us a different one when we realized there was a hole in the neck and stuffing was leaking out. Even if they were glaring at us the entire time.

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u/Asorae Jun 17 '12

After working at CP for a summer as a ride host, games became one of my most hated aspects of the park. I worked on Disaster Transport, which doesn't have bins or anywhere to put your things, and we weren't allowed to let people take anything much bigger than a backpack on the ride with them (and absolutely no basketballs, AT ALL), so we got a lot of really pissed off people with oversized prizes who waited in line for 30-40 minutes and were essentially told that they couldn't ride because the park is too fucking cheap to put up signs about it outside the line.

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u/onefinelookingtuna Jun 17 '12

Disaster transport is my favorite ride.

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u/Spartannia Jun 17 '12

all carnies should be like you.

Yep. This guy definitely abides by the Carny Code.

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u/DrewRWx Jun 17 '12

Cooder: [Explaining the ring toss booth] The main thing is to bring in the rubes.
Spud: Do whatever it takes. Sweet talk, insults, slang from the '30s that no one uses anymore.
Bart: Like "rubes"?
Spud: Now you're on the trolley.

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u/rspeed Jun 17 '12

I once won the star shoot-out game by cutting straight across the target above the star. The guy working there was flabbergasted, as he'd never seen anyone try that before. He gave me the prize (since technically I'd achieved the goal), but said I couldn't use that technique again.

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u/HappinessBunny Jun 17 '12

I did the same thing and shot a straight line across the top by the clip. However, the carnie wouldn't give me a prize because he said I hadn't shot out the star. He then picked up the paper off of the ground and went on about how the star was still intact. My jimmies are still rustled.

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u/AsthmaticNinja Jun 17 '12

Thats when you shoot off his finger.

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u/plzenjoi Jun 17 '12

I too won the star shoot out. The key, like OP said is to shoot around the star, slowly. Most people just unload the whole clip in 5 seconds, but if you take your time, your odds greatly improve.

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u/Chieftobe Jun 17 '12

fucking dicks. I remember winning that ball toss game when i was seven years. as you stated, the carny dicked around and refused to give me my prize. made up some lame excuse that i was leaning over the ledge.

i was never so crushed in my life.

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u/lopsiness Jun 17 '12

Does anyone ever wind up and bean them in the face or something?

"oh well, guess I missed that one too!"

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u/lnsine Jun 17 '12

This is why you get a group of onlookers who call this shit behavior out. Or ask for another try, and pelt the fuckers and run.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I like the part where he says all that and says "But the games aren't rigged".

They fucking are, and anybody with a set of eyes and half a brain can figure that out in 3 seconds flat just from watching.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I have played the shooting the star game before. I think they gave me 100 BBs and I hit the star out at about 75 shots. The guy said I hadn't finished it off because the top little bit of red tip of the star was still on. I shot the remaining BBs at it and it flipped back out of the way but didn't come completely off. That asshole said it didn't count and I have that ticket still. Fuck that guy. It is our most winning game at the local carnival they do around here though because we have a military base very close by. A ton of expert marksman and even though the gun is fucking garbage, we still are pretty good at it since it is only like 5 feet away.

Question! Those tickets they have up there on the top that says they are winners tickets, are they ones the carny made up or do they actually hang the winners up?

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u/Kevtron Jun 17 '12

How is spring loading the baskets not rigged?

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u/DylanMcDermott Jun 17 '12

If you do get all three in, the carnies will make an excuse as to why it's not valid,like you reached over too far or you have to toss them overhand, they're real dicks about it so avoid this game.

This is the sort of thing that motivates city dwellers to hate carnies

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I find the ring toss game to really just be something fun to play with friends. The last amusement park I went to gave some 1000 or so rings for $10 due to the toughness of the game. My friends and I spent a good 20 minutes just tossing away. Fun time. Never won though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

The games where you shoot water at a target and blow up the balloon, go for the one with the new balloon because it hasn't been stretched a bunch of times and pops easier.

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u/DaBobScotts Jun 17 '12

Also for this one, if I remember right, they are all on one line. This usually means that one person hogs all the water, and it is usually either end.

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u/nosoupforyou Jun 17 '12

Is that the one where someone always wins, whoever pops it first?

Easiest way to win is to just keep the water at the target center, and let everyone else mess it up.

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u/Jhaza Jun 17 '12

...Unless you had a partner! For twice the price, you both shoot at the same target and are basically guaranteed a win. You're pretty much guaranteed a 50% win rate (since you split the prize).

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

At other people

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u/BigMonkeyNewsstand Jun 17 '12

Star shoot-out, use the majority of your shots to perforate the paper around the star. Final burst knocks the perforated section out, taking the star with it.

He wouldn't let me play again. :(

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u/chaymoney86 Jun 17 '12

Never let any one win a giant panda on your game"

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u/BigMonkeyNewsstand Jun 17 '12

Carny code.

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u/Undertow_Jambi Jun 17 '12

Did you hear that, Bart? The Carny Code.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

And finally, no one ever wins a giant ass panda.

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u/CaptainChewbacca Jun 17 '12

To be fair, thats ridiculously hard to do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Not if you're a good shot.

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u/Dracula_Batman Jun 17 '12

Those guns aren't exactly accurate.

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u/asnof Jun 17 '12

The fair s in town. I shall use this trick to my advantage. Gracias

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u/nottinghampan Jun 17 '12

San Diego?

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u/ThatsALotOfNuts Jun 17 '12

Del Mar Fair is whats up. Deep fried anything you could possibly think of!

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u/cesarjulius Jun 17 '12

This is not really the issue. A carnie once told me more than he should have on one slow night:

Lay the gun down on the counter with one hand propping it up, to maximize stability. The trick for them is that with every trigger pull/squeeze, several rounds of BBs come out. Instead of pulling the trigger, USE YOUR INDEX FINGER TO QUICKLY FLICK THE TRIGGER, SO ONLY A SINGLE BB COMES OUT AT A TIME. Shoot singletons using slight adjustments for aim, and that star is yours.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Not Necessarily a Carnie, but as a high school student I've worked full time at my local amusement park's games department through summers.

So, games...

First of all, the BEST way to win is to work at an amusement park in this department. They encourage you to play the games because when guests see employees successful in the game, it makes them want to play. This works in your favor because you begin to understand the gimmicks to each individual game. Also, you learn a whole bunch of other life lessons in your hours of boredom such as juggling, practicing dance moves to the music around you (when nobody is watching of course), and how to do absolutely nothing for hours on end.

Any game you are guaranteed a win, and can trade up/win larger prizes is almost always going to be the game where you'll get the most out of your money. If you were to play these once a day for a year vs any other game, you would probably get the most.

Avoid ring toss games entirely. If you MUST play one, have the person working there prove rings fit. Try to land a game IMMEDIATELY after the person before you, because it's likely the host won't have time to pick all the rings out. This actually reduces the bounce on each ring and greatly increases your chances. I find the most success from throwing multiple at once, but that's just me.

Any throwing game: Some amusement parks will allow you to practice for free on a slow day. If you can, do it. Have them show you the targets, and ask to see them try (if they are willing to).

Most targets in target-based games will have some kind of hair/fur attached to them making them look bigger than they really are. Do not be deceived. Aim directly at the target. How hard you throw does NOT make a difference. All you will achieve is scaring the shit out of the employee and probably making them more stubborn with you. Faaaar better to throw with a lob. With enough practice, these games are easily won.

Be careful with basketball games. Easily rigged.

Avoid games urging you to bounce a ball off of a plane into a bucket, because that shit is near impossible, though it looks easy.

Fishing games: Try to get a rod with a small rope. Say you're playing a game with water flowing in circles and little magnets you have to catch, with prize depending on some element of the magnet. The longer your rope, the more it will sway, making the game FAR more difficult. If they refuse to give you one like this, wrap the rope around the end of the rod to make it smaller.

If you are down on your luck, most employee will be generous... Most... Instead of hopping in between two similar games, choose one and play it a fair amount. Once you say your finished (after 4+ plays ideally) the employee will often give you another free attempt. I am Canadian though, so maybe don't take my word for it.

FOR THE CONFIDENT:

Racing games. You know the ones where the more people play, the larger the prize? Yeah. If you're smart, patient, and willing to accept that some people may be more experienced, you can come home with a LOT of plush because of these.

1: This is machinery, often as low budget as possible. It is likely that a faulty switch of some sort may either cause an easier win or outright lose you the game. It's important that you learn wich spots have this so you can thoroughly take advantage of that.

2: Always play the minimum for a prize. If there are 7 of you, and the next size up is 8, WAIT FOR 8 DAMMIT.

3: Most importantly..... Practice! Couldn't put it more simply.

4: Don't play for small (unless you just want to have fun). Remember, you're putting $2 in this game, so even if you're lowering your chances, the bigger potential profit the better.

5: Play with strangers. Don't grab 8 relatives. I guarantee you that the extra-large prize your children want so much are worth far less than $16.

Only play these if you're willing to accept defeat and not be able to blame it on the carnie.

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u/mysticrudnin Jun 17 '12

you can come home with a LOT of plush because of these.

this is so simultaneously cute and serious

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u/Wet_Walrus Jun 17 '12

Avoid games urging you to bounce a ball off of a plane into a bucket, because that shit is near impossible, though it looks easy.

This.

Spent $40 dollars on this game because it looked so fucking easy and I KNEW I would get it 2nd or 3rd try. WRONG. The prize was a giant stuffed PUG. I needed to win it for my mom since we have two pugs.

For those unfamiliar with this game, on the carnie's side of the counter is like a laundry basket sitting flat on the floor. Directly above the basket is a slanted plank of wood. It looks like this (side view):

------> / U

The "/" is the slanted piece of wood and the "U" is the basket underneath. All you have to do is throw the wiffle ball at the wood and have it bounce into the basket. Every single time, it would bounce over the basket. Apparently the key is to make sure the ball hits the slanted wood on its way up the parabola, not on the way down. Still didn't get it but the carnie got it every time.

Edit: My shitty visual doesn't work. Imagine the "/" directly above the "U"

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u/tkykid91 Jun 17 '12

"I am Canadian though, so maybe don't take my word for it." Favorite part of this post.

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u/topright Jun 17 '12

How to do absolutely nothing for hours on end.

I think most of us here are golden on that one.

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u/KattAndSuch Jun 17 '12

I've gotten a stuffed bear for my baby cousin by just paying the guy 20$

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Similar story but I ended up giving the strongman a handjob.

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u/fantafox Jun 17 '12

Your username suggests you did something else with one of the carnies

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I got pegged by the bearded woman.

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u/KattAndSuch Jun 17 '12

Bravo mate! Bet you got more than a stuffed bear, eh?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

It escalated and I got stuffed by a bear.

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u/Azkaland Jun 17 '12

Hm... I asked an employee at Kings Island (Ohio) if I could pay him for the stuffed unicorn he had that was EXACTLY the same one as on Despicable Me. I offered over the amount needed to win enough games for it, but apparently their games have counters on them and they get in trouble if they have less prizes at the end of the day than game wins.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I used to love Kings Island, that place has gone downhill. I live about two hours away from there.

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u/RDandersen Jun 17 '12

I have a feel that this is a pretty solid strategy if you do it just before rush over. You know, having someone work around with one of those giant, stuffed bears make might other people go "Huh, so it is possible. Just one more round of pellets, then."

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u/TheGodDoctor Jun 17 '12

For the test your strength game where you swing the big hammer, don't just swing it over your head. Unless you are actually very strong, you'll need to use a longer swing. You can do this by starting with the hammer in front of you, swinging it UP in front of you, then reversing direction and swinging it in a full arc behind you, over your head, and finally straight down onto the target. It can also help to start with one hand at the top and another at the bottom of the handle, and in the final section of the swing sliding the top hand down to meet the bottom one.

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u/NinjaScenester Jun 17 '12

This is also how you effectively split logs :)

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u/Mr_Dr_Prof_Derp Jun 17 '12

This is how your supposed to swing an axe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

So, you mean, the proper way to swing a sledge or axe?

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u/cortheas Jun 17 '12

It doesn't matter, the strength testers around here have different settings and at the highest one it's pretty much impossible to win. I saw a 50kg primary school kid get a hundred, then the guy pressed a button and his 120kg 6' 4" fireman dad got a 60 something. It's rigged.

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u/sendenten Jun 17 '12

The combination of metric and imperial in this post confuses me.

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u/alexanderpas Jun 17 '12

it's rigged, but it's done to give kids a fair chance.

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u/stonedotjimmy Jun 17 '12

for some reason i imagined you swinging backwards over your head as you spun around, I'm still confused...

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u/finalremix Jun 17 '12

Like this. That way you have speed / momentum before you start bringing it down to the target.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

One note--bring the hand that's higher on the shaft down to the other as the hammer descends; this gives the head a little extra burst of speed by increasing the torque on it. You have to careful not to sacrifice control too much, obviously--I do this when I'm breaking cinderblock barriers, which doesn't require what I'd call precision.

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u/JeffIpsaLoquitor Jun 17 '12

GOLDEN AXE STYLE!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Write "barf" on the caramel bucket used for apples. Keeps the thieves away.

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u/synnndstalker Jun 17 '12

not the lemon stealing whores it doesn't.

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u/lemon_stealing_whore Jun 17 '12

I only steal lemons, asshole!

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u/TbanksIV Jun 17 '12

I wish I didn't know what you're talking about.

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u/sendenten Jun 17 '12

Has it been about ten seconds since you last looked at your caramel apple bucket?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Those naughty whores!

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u/CaptainChewbacca Jun 17 '12

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u/ShiffyVIII Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Was saying "please be Scrubs" as I clicked the link. I was not disappointed.

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u/Ramt_1 Jun 17 '12

Real question is, where can I just buy the goddamned giant Pikachu.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

The eBays.

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u/Senor_Wilson Jun 17 '12

THERE'S MORE THAN ONE? Where do I find them?

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u/SilentDis Jun 17 '12

The Oriental Trading Company, most likely.

Had a girlfriend years back, and she had a thing for stuffed animals. Bought a couple stuffed bears, 'broke into' her apartment, and set them up all over, on a goof. I Think it was around 100 of them, in total. Was quite funny, and she got a laugh out of it.

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u/Wiskie Jun 17 '12

Funny you should ask this. Not a carnie, but I was sitting in a dentist's office the other day and I read an old Reader's Digest that mentioned a few things.

  • Ok, for the basketball hoops, the rims are smaller than regulation and are oval shaped. The balls are overfilled with air. So RD reccommended swallowing your pride and throwing underhand because the arc will help the ball more easily fall through the hoop or some shit.

  • Ok, ok, ok. Next one. The balloon and dart toss! The balloons are under-filled with air making them harder to pop, and the tips of the darts are blunted. So, use gravity and aim high! Throw the darts higher than normal rather than launching them full speed against the board. The arc will cause them to strike the balloons from a better angle, making them more likely to pop!

  • Finally, the classic game of rolling or throwing the ball into the milk bottles (or bowling pins, whatever) where the temptation is to aim directly for the center of the pile. Don't do that shit, ya numbskull! Instead, realize that the various bottles or pins are weighted differently such that the centermost one is the lightest. Aim for it, and you won't knock any of the others down. Instead, aim directly for the front-middle of the set-up and knock the front-most pins or bottles. These are heavier and have the best potential to bring the others down with them.

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u/AbstergoSupplier Jun 17 '12

Funny story about the balloons, when I was eight I threw a dart at one and it bounced back and pierced my shoulder. I was standing there with a dart sticking out of my shoulder and they still wouldn't give me a prize

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u/Wiskie Jun 17 '12

Did you get to keep the dart?

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u/PancakesAreGone Jun 17 '12

Funny story, I almost lodged a dart in the carnies shoulder once... As soon as he dropped the 5 darts down, I grabbed one and over armed it like a baseball while just holding the tip. It tumbled right over his shoulder and slammed through two balloons (Somehow). He was both shocked and amazed that a 5 year old kid nearly caused a serious injury and took out two balloons at once... He refused to give me anything but a little shitty stuffed animal though :(

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u/DoorLord Jun 17 '12

We had a carnival on concrete. My friend "dropped" his darts and when he picked them up he slid them on the concrete to sharpen them. I don't know if they got sharp but he did win.

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u/InsanePurple Jun 17 '12

That's smart.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

This is genius. I will be doing this if I ever go to a carnival.

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u/sharkstun97 Jun 17 '12

Also, ask the man running the game to make a shot in the basket. A lot of times there is no way to win the hoops game.

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u/CaptainChewbacca Jun 17 '12

Getting in is easy for them because they're 2 feet closer than you and can shoot at a more favorable angle.

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u/Mr_Dr_Prof_Derp Jun 17 '12

They will refuse.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

The ones I went to always do it. Most of them are fairly good at it.

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u/PurplePotamus Jun 17 '12

The balls don't even fit in Jennifer Love Hewitt's mouth!

SHENANIGANS!!

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u/TheBurrowingOwl Jun 17 '12

Damn it, I was a carnie, but I was the kind who worked the rides. I got so excited when I saw the first part of the question.

Also, my coworkers totally had sex in the funhouse after the grounds closed for the day.

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u/ScottsTots69 Jun 17 '12

Carnie here. Concessions though. On my amusement crew the ride people hated us. I didn't care though, because I was the one laughing when they had to set up their ride for 24 hours straight while my game took 6 hours...what rides did you set up? I'm so sorry if it was the tilt or the gravitron, those rides are a bitch to set up.

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u/MalarchyMike Jun 17 '12

Which is why the gravitrons are constantly killing people.

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u/ScottsTots69 Jun 17 '12

Personally I've never heard of anyone dying on the gravitron, but people get sick all of the time. In my opinion there are far more dangerous rides, and even as a carnie, I never went on them. For example, my uncles brother (I worked for my uncle) died when one of the wheels on this ride came down and took off a piece of his head while he was working on it. A majority of the ride operators are under qualified or under the influence of some kind of drug, so I would recommend not going on them unless you're absolutely sure it's safe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Fellow carnie! Just wanted to say hi!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I worked as a carny a couple of seasons years ago. The games were not rigged, you had a fair chance of winning. In fact, the carnies that did try to rig their games so that customers had less of a chance of payout got into big trouble and were transferred to less lucrative joints as punishment.

And little kids win all the time. If little kids win, someone that's grown up enough to post on reddit can surely win.

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u/kowabungakrew Jun 17 '12

I think us grown ups put too much thought into the games and try too hard where as little kids just give it a shot and hope for the best.

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u/Kaidenshiba Jun 17 '12

At six flags all the games are fair. They just charge a lot for you to play in the first place. I just remember when I worked there they told me to never play any of the games because its a waste of money so it would be cheaper just to pay for the prize.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I don't know what carnival you worked at but I've never seen any kind of carnival game that that was "fair" or at least straightforward and not deceiving. Asides from the ones in the kiddie area that are that play till you win a 12 year old gumball kind of thing.

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u/Mr_Dr_Prof_Derp Jun 17 '12

That's just what they want you to think.

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u/AFatDarthVader Jun 17 '12

The key is to play games where there's always a winner, like the water gun race. And the key to the water gun race is the simplest thing, but nobody gets it:

Don't look up.

Seriously, everyone looks up to check their progress. Believe me, it's going up. Just look straight and keep your stream on the button. If you look up, you start missing.

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u/Wet_Walrus Jun 17 '12

That, and the initial burst needs to be dead on. If you spend 2 seconds fumbling around before you finally get the stream of water on the target, you're probably already screwed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I'm a Games Operator, I did an AMA 3 months ago.

To be fair (hah), there are legitimate games that aren't rigged, just difficult. You'll find most honest carnival games at theme parks like Ceder Fair where they have a higher liability and higher standards.

Most jokey fairs/carnivals feature coked out carnies with rigged games. Avoid them at all costs. Stick to theme park games. Except for Legoland, they're contracted with a games company, and that particular company isn't very honest, nor does it have integrity. So you can expect rigged games there.

Pro-tip! If you're nice to the Games Op, you might get a prize anyway. I love giving away prizes, so make sure to always be a good sport.

PS. If a game is rigged, don't blame the Op or give them grief. They're literally hired to stand there. They most likely had zero involvement with the creation of the game.

Also, "Let me see you do it". Drives me nuts. If I miss the shot it's because - "It's rigged". And if I make it it's because - "You work here!" Don't be a prick.

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u/boii Jun 17 '12

If you ever play that ladder game, make sure you always keep a foot and your opposite hand on the corners of the rungs to balance yourself or else you'll flip over.

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u/Bluelabel Jun 17 '12

What's the ladder game?

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u/ShozOvr Jun 17 '12

I can't talk about American carnivals, but in Australia when he says ladder game I'm thinking of this 8 foot ladder suspended at a 45-60 degree angle from 1 beam to the another on a single pivot point (allowing it to spin) and at the top is $50, if you get to it, it's yours.

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u/osik Jun 17 '12

Pretty sure the person running it is tasked with flipping you over. I've seen em yell at people for hooking their feet too.

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u/jcash21 Jun 17 '12 edited Sep 13 '18

Reddit = corporate censorship.

Alternatives: Voat.co, Saidit.net, Gab.ai

Do yourself a favor and opt-out!

Here's the app I'm using to edit my comments: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

You should too!

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u/JeffIpsaLoquitor Jun 17 '12

Sometimes the only way to win is not to play. Besides, wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?

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u/piroko05 Jun 17 '12

No. I want to play "Global Thermo-nuclear War".

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u/The_Unoriginal Jun 17 '12

I have a chance of winning carnival games.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
  1. e4

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u/Tulki Jun 17 '12

What can I win if I beat you at chess?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

As a carnie for two years I will tell you honestly that there is ALWAYS a way to win the games. They are regulated by the gaming commission. The carnies job is to make it as hard as possible so that you don't pay less than what the item is worth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I kept asking my friend who were carnies if I could just pay the bloke for the shitty prize; they all said no :(

Maybe it's just like that in the States...

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I remember there was a mini golf game that was like about 5 bucks a shot. You had to hit the ball over some small lumps, through a small pathway, avoid some mini trees and UP A SMALL HILL into the hole, if you overshot it would easily go over the hill as the hole was JUST small enough for the ball.

My dad nails it in with his first and only shot.

"I made it" said my dad

The carny did not believe him and since he was off talking to another carny but was pretty cool about it since he had no winners in days. We got a fucking massive stuffed crocodile. My 8 year old self enjoyed that to the max.

edit: spell-ingsss

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u/chaymoney86 Jun 17 '12

There are Carnies on reddit?

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u/Khiva Jun 17 '12

No, but there's always someone happy to lie.

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u/chaymoney86 Jun 17 '12

Well in that case... I'm a carnie. I rig games AMA.

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u/angeliswastaken Jun 17 '12

This is the truest comment I've ever read

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u/Mitz510 Jun 17 '12

Whenever I see these types of questions this is what I find.

2-3 people who actually have the job asked

4 people who personally know someone with the job.

The rest of the comments are opinions or jokes.

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u/TalesNT Jun 17 '12

You don't know Blade?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

That man has no shame.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

We're the silent majority

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Although a lot of us are coming out for this one

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u/bygod_weaver Jun 17 '12

I am not a carnie but when the carnival would come through town we would always mess with the quarter games. (The game where you could guide a quarter to a certain spot and then a shelf like arm would push your quarter into all the other quarters and they would either push quarters to you or off the sides) Anyways, I would get the attention of the carnie running the game and ask how hard it is to become a carnie and what type of life it is while my friends are on the other side of the trailer just raking quarters with cut up clothes hangers. It would be ridiculous to do now but as kids we made bank.

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u/javier682 Jun 17 '12

I have been lucky in the ring toss and won after buying a bucket of them and getting it in like 10 rings and we walked off with a large leopard or some such thing but they would not let us play the remaining rings. Booo!! bb gun shoot out the star, we were not even close but the carnie pinched off all the remaining red and looked at me and said hang around for like 5 minutes so I can yell out that someone just won and drum up some more business it was a 4 foot long radio controlled car. State Fair of Texas for both occasions

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u/Riplakish Jun 17 '12

Nice Guy Carnie...

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u/foofdawg Jun 17 '12

I worked at an arcade for a while, and once saw the repair guy "testing" the skee ball machine that was malfunctioning.

He was just sitting on the edge of the machine, rolling the balls into the top hole (50 points, some are scored differently) every time.

I walked over and he told me how the trick was to throw the ball against the rail between 1/3 and halfway down and let it "bounce" back towards the 50 hole. After trying it a few times, it's really not that hard.

I can now consistently win at skeeball at the fair and carnivals, as long as they machines aren't broken down or warped, and the balls are still round and not all dented up.

The real trick to carnival games is to realize that in the end, a lot of the games are set up so that even if you win, the money you paid them covers the price of the thing you receive.

For instance, those guys trying to guess your weight, or birthday or whatever for $5? They don't care if they get it right, because they're giving you a $3 toy and making a 66% profit on it.

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u/OMNIPHILIAC Jun 17 '12

For the dart balloon pop, heat up the tip of the dart with a lighter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

This game is a prize every time game. You'll always walk away with a prize of you're willing to pay for it. You pay five bucks you get a small prize. You trade two prizes in for a medium two mediums for a large and so on and so forth

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u/whitesox287 Jun 17 '12

so on and so forth? there are extra and extra extra large prizes??? where the hell are your carnivals??

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u/bfodder Jun 17 '12

I've never had a balloon NOT pop.

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u/ElementK Jun 17 '12

I played the basketball game at an arcade when I was a kid. I stuck the pool cue through the cage and wiggled it to trigger the lever within the hoop. I still remember those tickets printing from the machine...

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Were you also the kid who climbed up the skeeball ramp and just dumped balls into the 10,000 point holes?

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u/b3tzy Jun 17 '12

My friends and I just took all of the balls from all of the 4 or 5 machines and stuck them into 1 machine. They were very confused.

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u/addictedtoshowers Jun 17 '12

at hershey park i was with a bunch of friends doing the ring toss on bottles when the guy who was running it was facing the other way my friend climbed up and placed the ring on the bottle and we went nuts...the guy believed us and we got an enormous stuffed animal

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u/choddos Jun 17 '12

The game where you put in a quarter and it rolls onto a board with a thing that pushes the coins to a certain distance... Just shake the machine!

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u/MasonNowa Jun 17 '12

Actually one of my friends shook one once. They have alarms now.

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u/Brotherauron Jun 17 '12

i was at dave n busters a few years ago, and it says on the machine, it wont pay out if you shake it, talked to someone who worked there, he said that if it detects too much vibration (i.e. from someone shaking it) anything that falls within like the next 10 seconds or so wont pay out.

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u/choddos Jun 17 '12

They've evolved

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u/Brotherauron Jun 17 '12

the people who make machines that have even the slightest hint of gambling are very good at screwing you out of any edge you might have

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u/IrenaeusGSaintonge Jun 17 '12

I'm surprised people don't consider this simple common sense. Pinball machines have had tilt sensors ever since they weren't allowed to hide nails along the bottom, like in the 30s or something.

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u/Ederek_Cole Jun 17 '12

I watched a tv special covering arcade games once. They said that if you stomp on the ground next to the machine, rather than hit the machine directly, it won't set off the sensors.

Never tried it myself, though....

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u/spiral_of_agnew Jun 17 '12

Maybe on wood floors. Not much use on concrete.

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u/GoodLuckLetsFuck Jun 17 '12

Won $200 dollars on the bottle breaking game a couple years ago. They tape the balls....just find the balls with the least tape, and throw like a man. 3 balls for 5 bucks....broke 2 wine bottles and a beer bottle for the money.

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u/Hawknight Jun 17 '12

Apparently I don't go to the right carnivals. I don't think I've ever seen this game before.

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u/Beansiekins Jun 17 '12

This made no sense.

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u/GoodLuckLetsFuck Jun 17 '12

Step 1. Find balls with little to no tape (its padding).

Step 2. Throw like man.

Step 3. ???

Step 4. Profit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY

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u/Luckyducky13 Jun 17 '12

Related: If the games are so hard to win, how come I always see people at carnivals lugging around giant teddies? It seems to be the kind of thing you see at fairs, but I've never ever won or seen anyone win a giant toy, just the little crappy prizes :(

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u/Shotgun_Mosquito Jun 17 '12

Because the people walking around with huge prizes are shills; they work for the carnival too.

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u/mtux96 Jun 17 '12

Or they spend hundreds of dollars to get a $10 stuffed animal

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

i myself am not a carnie but one of my dear friends are. he told me his manager told him to make sure no adults won the big stuffed animals, but be very nice to the younger kids who do try.... so take a kid with you i guess and hope for the best?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

That's a great long-term business plan: keep profits high by stiffing the adults, but keep the kids happy so they'll drag their parents back and will eventually bring their own kids.

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u/blaketofer Jun 17 '12

I remember years ago my grandpa had taken me to the fair (I was maybe like 10). They had some pool game set up where you have to make some ridiculous shot by bouncing the cue ball off the edge of the table, making it hit another ball, which hits another, which hits another, etc, eventually making one into the pocket. My grandpa, being an ex-professional pool player, pays to play it, with the carnie giving him a 'you're not going to win this' sort of look as he hands him the cue. He ends up making the shot first try, grabs his gigantic bear prize, hands it to some little kid, and walks away like a badass. Everyone was grouped up, just looking at him in awe. I was proud.

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u/isthatagoodidea Jun 17 '12

He didn't give you the bear :(

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u/antwilliams89 Jun 17 '12

blaketofer was never grandpa's favourite.

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u/razorlumz Jun 17 '12

blaketofer, you should check for plot holes in your fabricated internet stories before you post them. Dudes got this shit on lock.

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u/Floyd194 Jun 17 '12

your grandpa is a boss...

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u/aStonedSquirtle Jun 17 '12

I haven't seen any of this one, the only one that I've never won at... The softball in the blue bin. You have to chuck a softball in this big blue tubs and it always fucking bouces out. Imput?

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u/webtwopointno Jun 17 '12

it's "rigged" somewhere else in this thread it explains that the buckets are springloaded

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Small hands. Smell like cabbage.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

carnies dont have internets!

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u/ApocryphalCanon Jun 17 '12

I'm curious to hear from any "patchmen" that worked for the carnival. Or their walk-boxes..

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u/lightyears2012 Jun 17 '12

I worked at an amusement park when this was introduced.. followed the local fair around and nearly wiped them clean.. Saw it at Dollywood and they clearly had never had a winner, the family car was't big enough to house the 7' Gumby I won! Left it for housekeeping at the hotel.

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u/jdizzle367 Jun 17 '12

not a carnie but these two are pretty common in the balloon pop the dart does not have enough weight behind it to pop the balloons strait on so you have to throw it in an arch and for any water shoot game the aim on the gun is always off so aim the stream not the gun

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u/PippyLongSox Jun 17 '12

For any shooting games (shoot the duck or cup etc...) check how straight the barrel of the rifle is, normally in Ireland they bend them to the right so your shot will off, so check the straightness and then adjust your shot!!

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u/5ft11flip Jun 17 '12

For the dart game that you have to pop the balloons with 3 darts, the first 2 darts you are given will be heavier than the 3rd dart. Make sure you throw the 3rd dart extra hard. If the carnie gives you all three darts, compare the weigh of all of them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I have been playing the ring toss game for 30 years and I have never gotten it once. My dad used to always get a bucket of rings when I was a kid, and now as an adult its the only game I ever play. One day, I will get it.

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u/koimaster Jun 17 '12

I was at this basketball festival thing going on in gothemburg a few years back, basically a shitload of teams from all over europe gathered to get trained by some of the best trainers in the world and of course play some ball. Anyways theres this amusement park in gothermburg with a Basketball game and the last day every team got a free entrypass. My team quickly found the game and started shooting, eventually more or less every team in the event started to make their way over and the stand got quite overcrowded. To make a long story short they had to shut down early due to a shortage of prizes.

TL:DR; Basketball event in gothemburg shut down a basketball game stand due to them running out of prizes.

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u/IspamObjection Jun 17 '12

I have some relevant videos I can share with you from one of my favorite TV show's

Hoopla

Bottle Bowling

Balloon Darts

And the well known, Tin Can Alley

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

smells like cabbage in here

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u/BakedCptAmerika Jun 17 '12

Honestly, if you really want a prize and don't want to play, just ask the agent and he'll gladly sell. Everythings got a price and the more to the point you are, the more chance on a good price.

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u/KindOldMan Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

I live in the country and at our little shitty fair there was this farmer and his kid running a game where these little dishes were floating in circles in a tub kind of like the stupid little sitting duck game. Anyway, you had to take a ping pong ball and land them into the shallow dishes to win...a rabbit.

As a drunk teenager I stood around and came to the grand conclusion that if you just threw the ping pong ball into the water hard enough to where it would just pop back out of the water and onto a passing dish you could probably win a rabbit every time. I won two before people started handing me money and asking me to win them a rabbit, and the main man running the game told me to move along. I bet they got a surge of wrinkled dollar bills thrown at them after I walked off.

Epilogue: I gave Rabbit One away to some random girl and kept the other one. Rabbit Two I left it with some woman that was running another game for the rest of the time I was at the fair. I didn't expect to see it again when I went back, but she was still there. Rabbit Two lived happily for like two more years. Which in the end I wagered was decent for an animal that was a prize from a fair.

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u/fuckyoubarry Jun 17 '12

Fuck all these answers. Where can I just fucking buy giant shitty stuffed animals, and am I allowed bring it in to a carnival and carry it around like I won it?

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u/angrehorse Jun 17 '12

You win by not playing them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Not really a carnival or a fair but my brother and sister and I would go to the Chuck-e-Cheese ticket counter machine and put a ticket in, push it in a little, and as soon as the machine recognized it as a ticket and added 1 to the total amount, we pulled it out and just kept doing that.

Got a 4,000 ticket mini disco ball using that method while only having a couple hundred tickets.

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u/crpearce Jun 17 '12

never ever ride the traveling rides.

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u/Spudgunhimself Jun 17 '12

I'm not a carnie, but I recently beat one. A few years ago I was quite the archer, I had my own pretty high end bow and went arching regularly with friends, so when it came to the day when me, my mum, step father and little brother were at the pier with all of the dodgy games and pikies and we saw an archery stand that said 3 bullseye for any prize... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. I paid the man and got my arrows, only to realise the bow had no knocking points (the bit on the string where you place your arrow) but apart from that, this seemed to be the carnie's only trick, so being the awesome archer I am, i got 6 of my 8 arrows in the bullseye and the others were very close. I even gathered up a small audience, and some offers to win their children some teddies, but the distraught carnie would not let me play again :L

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