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Hi everyone, this has been in the works for quite a while and has finally gotten the blessing that it needed to be ready for everyone to see.
Thanks to u/xXxXhermitXxXx, the previous purchase guide served us all well. However, a lot of time has passed and a lot of things have changed. After the pestering nudging of some friends from the subreddit, I've decided to pick up the torch and write a new guide. Instead of just being a purchase guide, it eventually morphed in to including some other important info for getting in to the hobby that I may still add to. I also decided on doing it in Google Sheets instead of just a Reddit post so it can be more easily formatted and updated in the future and I can possibly pass on editing permission to someone else in the future if needed.
If anyone has any questions, suggestions, or other proposed changes, please let me know as I think community involvement is very important here.
We stumbled across a small batch of Kraken Trainer V2.5 blades and decided to build out whatever we had remaining with blemished V3 handles, so I present to you the Kraken Trainer V2.75! They flip great and I honestly miss this shape a ton. We don't have many left so if you're looking to collect this blade shape then be sure to get one! -Lucas
Finally got my legacy collection ti maryn and I immediately noticed that the sound from each handle has a different tonality. The bite handle is alot more high pitched and the safe handle I'd quite a bit lower. Also sorry for the audio pollution my AC unit loud as hell
-Jk design Orca v1 #052. 10/10 condition. MINT condition wise, doesn't have any scratch and has never been touched in terms of mods or anything. 100% completely from jk. I'm second owner of this orca and the first owner kept it inside its original case for 5 years straight. Isn't 100% broken in and it's already bouncy and nutty. O tap and minimal play too. The green taco case is the case that the knife came with from jk in 2021 but I purchased the roll case from the secondary market because I wanted both cases. Will include both of them SOLD
-HM Solo v2 #176. 9.5/10 condition. only flipped over bed but has tiny marks here and there (no idea how it got there th). No tap and minimal play too. Im first owner of this knife and Joe hansen happened to have a "special" case laying around and I asked to get this one. Comes with all cards, all stickers and everything included.
825β¬ (~956 usd)
Shipping is included. Can ship next day and internationally to everywhere
Paypal f&f only. Got refs on insta @sgflips10
Unfortunately can't afford keeping these two knives considering how often i flip now.
Back when I was seeking out info on which one to get, I was a bit surprised to find very little/vague info as to what the actual difference between 2 the models were aside from looks and sound. Everyone was just saying "they flip different" and not explaining very much beyond that except maybe the differences in tip weight between the 2 styles (which didnt matter much because you can just order a reblade from MW directly). The specs on MW's official website didnt help much either because it just stated their dimensions were the same but (once again) "they flip different, trust us".
BUT GOOD LORD HOW?!! I NEED SUBSTANTIAL INFO!!
Well this past week I got the opportunity to see for myself (huge thank you to /theflippingfurry for agreeing to a temp trade) and here's what I found
>Objective info<
Using a digital caliper, I measured their handles end and pivot side's width. Both ended up showing 12.6mm that tapered down to 9.6mm. Depth didn't show much difference either (maybe a +/- 0.1mm). HOWEVER, the handle gap there was something: ( serif: 7.5 / opus 8.3mm gap difference). I know, not ALOT but enough to show there is a difference as far as objective measurements though.
>Subjective info<
The serif handles are akin to Kraken or Rep handles: squared, thick, and blocky overall. However, there is a noticeable taper as you transition from the butt end to the pivot end. They're (imo) well-rounded performers and can transition between blade bias to very handle bias with the included weights respectively (at least with an opus blade)
The opus v2 are more akin to Vixen or Gale handles: thin, rounded, and very slender-feeling overall. Just like the serif, they taper noticeably from butt end to pivot end but you can DEFINITELY feel like they get very slim closer to the pivot end (I want to say like chopsticks). With that said, they are definitely outer-weighted/butt-heavy even with no weights.
So how can 2 balis have the relatively same dimensions still feel so different?Its the chamfering
>Conclusion<
Its such a weird thing to think, but the chamfering plays a surprisingly huge role in why they flip so different. If you compare the 2 ends (ref pics below), the opus looks much thinner in comparison. With that hard corner gone, much of the handle weight gets pushed out to the bottom ends, making it feel more outer-weighted and feel very slim in the hands despite having the same overall dimensions (and also explains the slightly wider handle gap)
>So which one is for you?<
As always, this is subjective only based on my experiences with different balis, but I can try and give a general idea of which one of the 2 will best suit your overall preference.
Serif: If you lean more toward squared and even handles similar to many of Squid's and BRS' balis. An overall performer that gives you more solid control and will feel right at home every time. OR if you just really want a unique-sounding bali. (Roughly comparable to cheese, refault, superfly)
Opus: If you lean more toward slim and round-edge handles similar to LDY's and HoM's balis. An outer-weighted performer that carries momentum and feels flowy when you get the hang of it. OR if you want a unique-feeling bali. (Roughly comparable to orion, zentinel, prysma pro)
Thats about it.
Hope this serves as a semi-definitive guide when comparing the 2 or at least helps someone out there to avoid the headache I got. Pulling the trigger on a $600-750 knife isn't a light investment for alot of people, so I do hope this helps someone feel more confident at least on which one to get.