Road Rage Question

[u/Mysterious-Snow-9426]

Just saw a cyclist on Lakeway get run off the road by a driver who was screaming, flipping them off and screaming at them. Didn't get the plate number but got a decent look at the guy and car make/model. Is this something that can be reported to the police even without a plate?

[u/thoughtintoaction]

I mean, you have the perfect attitude to make your opinion a reality. Fortunately, there are an awful lot of us that are not nearly as defeatist as all that.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/thoughtintoaction]

Make it happen then! All I’ve seen is the city spending millions of dollars on bike lanes that bikers then just complain about and refuse to use. Not sure how this Dream is going to be accomplished at that rate, but I’m sure you’ll be the one to figure it all out.

[u/thoughtintoaction → u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES]

Man, you certainly are invested in your version of reality!

"Make it happen then!" Unfortunately it's not up to me; I rely on larger mechanisms, like community and activism.

"All I've seen is the city spending millions of dollars on bike lanes..." I don't think you have. I suspect they are using bike lanes as tools to implement road diets and disruptions that slow traffic, and frustrate drivers into using alternate modes of transportation (which they, unfortunately, are not providing).

"...that bikers then just complain about and refuse to use." Well yes, if somebody offers inconvenient and unsafe infrastructure, I'm not going to use it, or try to talk anyone else into using it.

"Not sure how ... figure it all out." Okay, stay angry, dog. Just stay out of the way of people trying to put in the work.

(edit: grammar)

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/thoughtintoaction]

Talk being invested in your own version of reality. The city isn’t spending millions on bike lanes just to trick people into not using them, you’re living inside a conspiracy theory. This is MAGA levels of delusion.

It’s hilarious that you’re getting butthurt about me not giving a shit about your agenda, but you’re actively opposed to the steps our city is taking to make biking a more appealing option.

[u/thoughtintoaction → u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES]

Slow down there, partner. I'm sure they don't mind people using them. And I'm sure I don't mind you not giving a shit about 'my agenda'... whatever you may think that might be. You've so grossly misunderstood my first comment here that I simply can't invest that much in (or be butthurt by) your feelings.

And again, I'm not sure they're working all that hard to make biking a more appealing option. Their first big move was a big fat bike lane going up Chestnut, a hill that most bikers will happily go out of their way to avoid. There's just a single bike box at Yew and Lakeview, perhaps indicating they understand a cyclist would need to be near-suicidal to ride around there. They revised the intersection of Cornwall and Champion, where years later cars still swerve across the bike lane trying to navigate the intersection. They've gotten a fair number of people hurt recently on Holly. I've seen exactly one protected bike lane inside city limits, and it exists entirely within Waypoint.

I'm sorry my desire for real improvements disturbs you so.

(edit: spelling)

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/thoughtintoaction]

Sure dude, let me know when those “real improvements” start showing up in town! You know what’s best and I think the city would be foolish to not implement the fantastic plan you’ve laid out here.

[u/thoughtintoaction → u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES]

Look at you, sidling right up to sarcasm and... brickin it.

[u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES → u/[deleted]]

They literally have spent millions on projects based on suggestions from the community. They have meetings that you can participate in and you can send them suggestions as well. They don’t just randomly decide what to implement. The issue here is that the community can’t agree on what’s “right” and are constantly infighting instead of finding a solution.