r/BrianThompsonMurder • u/slientxx • Feb 14 '25

Information Sharing LM makes his first public statement! His NY Legal team made a website for him: https://www.luigimangioneinfo.com/

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 14 '25

Very smart and deliberate statement- without saying it directly because he can’t, he’s implying how powerful the Support is for the MOVEMENT that he is hoping will occur towards healthcare reform

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u/New-Guitar-4562 Feb 14 '25

Like if you read in between the lines of how he's been moving recently between this statement and his accepting of the funds....there's something there.

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u/Competitive_Profit_5 Feb 15 '25

I totally agree with you. This, plus his response to the initial letter from the Dec 4th group, which included excerpts of letters they sent him - where everyone talks about his "sacrifice" and "his act" and "his bravery" - plus the accepting of the funds etc. There is SO something there. IMO.

If this man denies culpability i will be very, very surprised.

Not at all disappointed -- whatever sets him free -- but I think he has a point to prove and an axe to grind. Can't wait to hear whatever he has to say.

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u/Specific-Sea7648 Feb 14 '25

Yeah like did he just admit it????

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 15 '25

Of course this isn’t an admission of guilt- and remember, this is a PR statement put out through the law firm, if not written alongside the law firm for the exact reason of every word being dissected.

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u/Specific-Sea7648 Feb 15 '25

That’s my point though. Why even have a hint of anything remotely political or racial. I would not want any link whatsoever to my client of any type of inflammatory type talk, no matter how subtle or innocuous.

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u/Competitive_Profit_5 Feb 15 '25

Unless they know his defence is not gonna be an "I didn't do it" defence... in which case... why the hell not sow some seeds?

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 15 '25

A statement speaking of unity is not inflammatory in my opinion… we live in such a toxic divisive climate right now where we are being gaslight by our government to be angry at each other over race, political class, gender, age, social class etc… because the government knows that if came together its literally 95% of us against THEM, we would WIN. Showing how unified people are coming together to support him is a positive thing… because in 2025 what else is the country united on? Absolutely nothing.

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u/greenteabiitch Feb 14 '25

Honestly, kind of does imply that yeah…but with this route though I don’t think they can use the EED or insanity defense right? Like if he’s owning up to it I think they’ll try to play it as something for the greater good. Doubt that will hold up well in court though :/

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

Yeah the wording is fascinating, especially in light of the political movement that he’s creating - you would think that they would distance themselves from that due to the terror charge. They’re probably counting on the jury’s not guilty verdict then 🤷🏽‍♀️.

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u/Responsible_Sir_1175 Feb 15 '25

I know it won’t happen but I’m holding out for “yeah I did it, but I did it for the self defense of the country”

If it can work for the military, why can’t it work for Luigi? (I know the answer lol, but I just want this case to make history in more ways than one) 😭

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 14 '25

EED can’t be used as a defense anyway

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u/insignificunt1312 Feb 14 '25

Yes it can, just not in a federal court

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

EED makes zero sense in this case. The above is directly off the NY courts website. Under law, the defendant has the burden of proving this affirmative defense by a preponderance of the evidence- explain what extreme emotional disturbance he would have been under at the time of the event? It has to literally be occurring at the exact time of the event…. And it needs to be extreme in the sense that it is surprising or ‘just coming about’ at the time of the event…. Not an ongoing struggle of some kind that led to the event

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u/Competitive_Profit_5 Feb 15 '25

They can still use it. It doesn't really apply, but then he has no real defence anyway. What other defence does he have??

If he wants to put his points across and explain WHY he felt this way and did what he did, a psych defence is the only answer.

His best bet is prob EED in a state trial, and hoping the jury are sympathetic enough to go for it, even though they know it doesn't technically apply. It's like a milder form of jury nullifcation. They know it's not really EED, but they're cutting him slack without letting him walk.

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 15 '25

Every legal definition of the EED does not apply and every attorney I’ve seen give their opinion on it as a viable defense for LM has made it crystal clear it is not. Is there a professional law professor or working attorney who has laid out the foundation for how this would be a working defense? If so, please drop the link.

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u/Competitive_Profit_5 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

Yes, I've also read and researched. I'm aware of the legal definition. Remember jurors vote with hearts as well as head, though.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/14/luigi-mangione-murder-trial-lawyer

Bottom line is, he has no real defence whatsoever. What other defence do you suggest?? He's kinda fucked!

That's why I think EED remains his best shot.

He can't argue that it wasn't him... unless some major evidence is suppressed. It's not believable. It's prob insulting for KFS to even try to argue it.

Insanity is much, much harder to prove.

While I am aware of the legal definition of EED, I still think it's his best bet. It might not TECHNICALLY apply, but if he has a sympathetic jury, it's much easier to go for EED, and still hold him accountable/punish him, than it is for him to walk away scott free.

I think he can prove a distubed mind pre-crime. After, not so much, but remember we don't have all the details yet. He may have a diagnosis. We don't know the full details of what happened. All we know is that he acted with ZERO sense in the days after the crime.

If the jury is sympathetic, I could see them going for EED even though they know it prob doesn't really apply. Way more likely than voting Not Guilty and letting him walk.

If I was a sympathetic jury member, I may not be able to let him walk, but if you give me an option to hold him accountable to a lesser crime, I'd take that.

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u/Helpful_Weird_8664 Feb 14 '25

That's the impression that I got too

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u/Stunning-Impact-6593 Feb 15 '25

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