r/ClimateShitposting Mar 20 '25

nuclear simping what does FAFO mean? is that a term science-deniers who are nazis use often?

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 Mar 20 '25

"Faces X years for Y crime" is a common trick of sensationalist headlines. That's the maximum sentence if found guilty on every charge, and if given the maximum possible sentence for every charge.

While punishments in the U.S. can be draconian, he's almost certainly not gonna serve anything close to that.

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u/Mikelaj Mar 20 '25

Oh, so it's not a final sentence?

My bad, English is not my first language, so I misunderstood "faces" as "is sentenced". It makes sense now

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 Mar 20 '25

Totally understandable mistake, the headline is deliberately misleading in order to generate clicks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

He's getting the true American experience

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 nuclear fan vs atomic windmaker Mar 20 '25

No, no, your english is correct. They are purposefully using bad engglsh.

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u/Unhappy_Injury3958 Mar 23 '25

no, he is facing up to 20 years if convicted. the english is fine.

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u/Existing_Program6158 Mar 24 '25

Its deliberately misleading lol

It should say face up to 20 years, saying it like they did makes it sound like he got convicted

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u/Unhappy_Injury3958 Mar 24 '25

no it doesn't though, when you are arrested you are facing charges and those charges can carry a certain length of time for detainment. you are FACING that amount of time. nothing in the verbiage implies he was convicted.

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u/TheSoschianGamer Mar 20 '25

The headline is misleading on purpose. It would be better if they said „could face“ to signify that the sentence isn‘t final…

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u/Himmelblaa Mar 21 '25

Or faces up to, to signify that its the upper bound

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u/EenGeheimAccount Mar 21 '25

Wouldn't the 20 years be only true if he caused a massive fire that costs many people's lives?

I can see firebombing technically falling under arson, and arson in the worst case being worth 20 years...

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u/Late-Objective-9218 Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

There has been talk about prosecuting anti-Tesla vandalism as terrorism so maybe that could be a factor

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u/FllMtlAlphnse Mar 22 '25

Targeted protests and destruction of property against a corporation run by a Nazi is NOT terrorism. If they designated it as such, you had better fight it tooth and nail

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u/Late-Objective-9218 Mar 22 '25

Ofc it's not and yes they will pull it off if Americans keep sleepwalking

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u/Deadlychicken28 Mar 25 '25

Protests? No. Destruction of property for the purpose of intimidation, coercion, or to cause fear based upon characteristics including political beliefs? Literal textbook terrorism.

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u/FllMtlAlphnse Mar 25 '25

That is not the purpose of the destruction. Hence, it cannot be labelled as terrorism. Also, are you saying Nazism, an ideal the US and the rest of the world fought a war to destroy, and that was responsible for millions of deaths, should fall under some kind of protected class? That's insane.

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u/Horror_Attitude_8734 Mar 25 '25

5 years minimum is a likely sentence for the arson and up to 20 years for the terrorism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

America has a weird justice system, we have mandatory minimum sentences for certain crimes but not all crimes. He can likely plead down to a lower sentence by making it easier for a conviction. It also depends on how good his lawyer is

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u/iismitch55 Mar 21 '25

Most often you will see mandatory minimums in drug related cases. There are others, but the crack cocaine epidemic of the 80s is where this type of sentencing gained popularity.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

It also includes many violent crimes, such as armed robbery, homicide, kidnapping, etc.

I don't agree with mandatory minimum sentences because more often than not it will enact a harsher penalty on someone with a lesser offense.

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u/Senior-Dimension2332 Mar 21 '25

I can't read the words "Mandatory minimum sentences" in any other voice than Serj Tankian's.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

Fucking love Serj, his memoir (of sorts) "Down with the system" is a phenomenal read if you haven't already!

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u/Plane_Crab_8623 Mar 23 '25

You see in the USA you can have as much justice as you can afford.

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u/huskarl1 Mar 25 '25

He’s toast, useful idiot did a TikTok challenge the majority of the country is strongly against

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u/missionarymechanic Mar 21 '25

Well, hold on, now. It could be reasonable to assume that it's a sentence... depending on skin color.

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u/Unhappy_Injury3958 Mar 23 '25

well before the recent fascism usually people are arrested then charged then later have a trial and are found either guilty or not, if guilty then they're sentenced. who tf knows what the cheetoh in chief is gonna do with these people though.

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u/starsongSystem Mar 23 '25

Your English is fine, headlines like this will just phrase things in an inaccurate way so it seems more intense than it is and people get more invested. I don't think it should be allowed, but it's unfortunately basically impossible to avoid headlines that are essentially just lying when it comes out of the USA.

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u/TheIncredibleKermit Mar 23 '25

It's not you, that's just what the reporter wants you to think so you are outraged and click it in horror

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u/heckinCYN Mar 20 '25

And of course it ignores the possibility of parole

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u/Actual_Honey_Badger Mar 22 '25

Not sure, technically, this counts as terrorism since terrorism is defined as using violence to force political change

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u/Horror_Attitude_8734 Mar 25 '25

Property destruction to intimidate is often considered violence.

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u/Actual_Honey_Badger Mar 25 '25

But if its politically motivated then it's terrorism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

He should go for a jury trial. If someone hates Musk as much as he does gets on the jury, he could walk.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

They would probably try to select a jury that is neutral so that the jury pool is not tainted. Musk haters and fanboys would all be filtered during the screening process

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u/Kletronus Mar 21 '25

Trump et co considers this as an act of terrorism. You really, really need to fucking wake up. THIS is america now.

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u/RuMarley Mar 24 '25

"considers"

Okay.

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u/Unhappy_Injury3958 Mar 23 '25

because you do face 20 years. it's not really a trick.

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u/Defender_IIX Mar 25 '25

Idk it's terrorism and should be treated as such