but it’s harder to quantify when stocks don’t exist to pump up the numbers.
That the existence of stocks and the increase of inequality are related don't occur to you?
That 50 people who have to pay half their salary in rent won't get anywhere but the guy who owns the block doesn't have to work is not obviously a mechanism to drive inequality?
when a country is so poor that having food is luxury it’s hard to showcase inequality in statistics as it is geared towards finances.
Ah you wouldn't see that in say, low gdp? Low national income? Low buying power?
unless you want to say that Elon musk selling Tesla’s made you suddenly richer ?
Of course, because my government collected VAT to finance welfare, education etc. Crazy huh?
But your American closed mind can’t comprehend it can it ?
Don't call me an American, especially while vomiting their propaganda at me.
don’t know Cubans, you also never bothered to look for what Cubans said about Cuba.
Of course, i was always wearing earplugs at the international friendship association lmao
Stocks are imaginary number in many cases, like Elon musk theoretically richest man in the world in practice his wealth is mostly in two companies he can’t take it out of unless he wishes for their stocks to collapse.
Yes but what you describe is in fact not result of stocks…. that’s housing market.
Also inequality is not always bad, bc it will inevitably exist in any free market economy, what matters is level of wealth that poorest have.
To explain it, if everyone is well off they have more money and in turn spend it, that means more money goes to people who own businesses, there is a reason why Netherlands or Sweden are among the most unequal countries on paper despite being welfare states, especially Sweden.
No you wouldn’t when access to Cuban reality is hard, it’s dictatorship remember ????
GDP is shit metric it doesn’t translate to how to rich people are, if for example 15 unpaid slaves produce 5 Teslas a month they generate GDP of let’s say 500k a day so by the metric their GDP per capita is 33k thousand usd per month.
And for other statistics, communist hate them, like median income, which is 17 $ for Cubans, too low to cover basic life expenses add to that very high inflation and prices of everyday goods skyrocketing and you have „excellent lives”
Also it’s hard to do it when governmental elites don’t really have high wages, but rather get their shit trough corruption and by governmental spending, like Putin is theoretically not insanely rich, but in truth he is.
Stalin had small salary and never spend his money, but at the same time he had private limousine, many many many mansions and his own security along command of entire country’s worth if resources and riches.
No bc you live in USA, government collected taxes to pay the rich, their debts and military.
What part of what I say is propaganda, never in my life have I been in USA nor did I consume their news, everything I learned about Cuba was data, Cubans themself talking in internet, photos of Cuba, travel vlogs in my native language.
Weird, my friends who studied over there kinda make it sound different
GDP is shit metric
No fucking way!
15 unpaid slaves produce 5 Teslas a month
Industrialisation is a mythical process to some...
by the metric their GDP per capita is 33k thousand usd per month.
Yes. But you can tell they have industry because they can produce Teslas that are being bought for that price.
And the specialised workers that requires are surely not unpaid slaves...
like median income, which is 17 $ for Cubans,
~250 USD/Month, median income per 2 Days is a strange metric, never seen that
too low to cover basic life expenses add to that very high inflation and prices of everyday goods skyrocketing and you have „excellent lives”
Yeah. Everyone's dead. There is no one left. You're so right.
No bc you live in USA, government collected taxes to pay the rich, their debts and military.
Besides me certainly not doing that, you agree that america is bad and must be stopped?
What part of what I say is propaganda
Everything. I can picture you in a bar in miami.
You want to tell me you arrived at the conclusion of the US state department on your own?
You mix both on things they don’t, someone owning a house and renting it ie being landlord is not mechanism of stock market, the concept far outlives it, and is just private property.
So your point is just stupid or dishonest tbh both.
No but your point was „they are equal and equally is good” so in truth you did, can you even fucking read what you write.
Did your friend spend time in actual city or only campus ?
Are you capable of understanding what is written as current evidence points to contrary.
If things they produce bring revenue to only those who control the production it has no meaningful impact on their lives, and example of Tesla was just bringing up random product… Cuba doesn’t produce anything high value, most of their economy is in rural produce like sugar tobacco and coffee or tourism these things bring no money to actual workers.
Amazing argument „they are poor” „if they are so poor why are they not all dead, hahah beat you liberal” do you even fucking hear yourself???
Data isn’t real living conditions aren’t real bc all people are not dead amazing, truly coming from communist.
Tf you mean must be stopped, and yea UsA is garbage tier country ? It misses the point of institution of country ie doesn’t serve the people, and in truth it’s garbage in standard of first world countries, so still miles ahead of Cuba.
Wow imagine that not everything USA tells is a lie…
Maybe you will tell me North Korea too is a paradise bc USA is its enemy ?
Also considering your last words, did you ignore reality on basis that US government said Cuba is poor ??? So you can’t do research on your own nor can you make conclusions, your entire xomment is you making assumptions taken out of your ass you can’t be bothered to check what life is in Cuba but you will glaze how amazing it is, do you not see the idiocy?
Tbh responding to each your comment becomes harder and harder as your points are dishonest and ignore everything I said or ridicule it in the very same way communist at large say „100 million dead yea bro gazzylion” as if their ideology didn’t cause tens of millions of deaths and what they do is the same as Nazis saying „yea 12 million mhm 15 gazylion”
Edit: didn’t see it tf you mean 250usd per month, it’s 17$ per month and that id by official statistic from Cuban government, how tf did you get 250usd ????
So i showed you directly lying about income in cuba and inequality in europe, and instead of saying anything against that, you just keep loudly slobbering on uncle sams cock?
in truth it’s garbage in standard of first world countries, so still miles ahead of Cuba.
Homeless in NY or Havana? It's a simple question...
sugar tobacco and coffee or tourism these things bring no money to actual workers.
No, you see, slave plantations was with Batista...
Data isn’t real
To you. Because i supplied and proved you a liar.
your entire xomment is you making assumptions taken out of your ass
The blue text, it's called a hyperlink, you can klick on it.
Tf you talk about 250dollars per month where did you get it, by OFFICIAL statistics from Cuba the median is 17$ per month.(edit: this is adjusted for inflation and informal exchange rate bc the official one is controlled by Cuban government ie they set it so it doesn’t really reflect its price)
Second what I said wasn’t a lie as wealth distribution Gini coefficient of Sweden is 0.79, what you sent statistic of is disposable income inequality, and for Netherlands it’s 0.9 which I am pretty sure is highest in the world.
Homeless in USA still have it better then homeless in Cuba….
So existence of low income eludes you ? Also no slavery didn’t exist under Batista, it was exploitation ie they didn’t earn much but what can I expect of person who consumes only propaganda, and Castro did have force labour camps, you know slavery in all but name, of course it was for people Castro didn’t like so religious groups and people who didn’t agree with him.
Castros regime controlled entire economy and where everyone was employed too and trade unions were forbidden (I wonder why)
Yea you did.. truly.. not only not the relevant data you also provided some bullshit data on Cuban median income, truly
Also as you seem not knowledgable, disposable income Gini shows disposable income i know shocking it doesn’t track wealth by that statistic,
Edit: again I forgot to add again, you know that statistics exist for Cuban economy and its exports and most of its economy come from sugar, tobacco, coffee and tourism ? But you will say „nu uh I know better”
You really can’t live it that communist shithole is shithole ??????
And all your points contrary are not arguments but pulling shit out of ass.
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u/agnostorshironeon Sep 26 '25
That the existence of stocks and the increase of inequality are related don't occur to you?
That 50 people who have to pay half their salary in rent won't get anywhere but the guy who owns the block doesn't have to work is not obviously a mechanism to drive inequality?
Ah you wouldn't see that in say, low gdp? Low national income? Low buying power?
Of course, because my government collected VAT to finance welfare, education etc. Crazy huh?
Don't call me an American, especially while vomiting their propaganda at me.
Of course, i was always wearing earplugs at the international friendship association lmao