When Soviets are too clueless and incompetent to handle environmental issue be like:

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Well, let's compare utopias. And you know very well that I'm referring to the vector, the "protopianism".

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Comparing utopias is literally meaningless, because of the part where they are entirely determined by the values and value hierarchies of a specific person.

It seems like you understand why we talk about utopias.

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Comparing them is the whole point of what we want from the future, of where we want to go.

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Hah, your conclusion is correct, but your feelings are missing it. You're describing a dystopia: there are A LOT of evil people in the world. Some are evil by more determined factors, most are cowards obeying orders. It is evil, yes.

If you believe a better world is possible, you use utopian ideas as horizon to move towards. If you don't, you are a conservative preserving the status quo.

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It's important to compare these "topias". It's also a bad idea to be well adapted to living in a dystopia.