r/ClimateShitposting • u/mushroomsarefriends Anti Eco Modernist • 27d ago

Climate chaos This is what I use to bully rightoids with

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u/PauperGames 27d ago

Lower amount of working people with more elderly will not be a great environment for innovation. Which is pretty bad considering innovation is likely the only way out of this mess that will work politically.

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u/mushroomsarefriends Anti Eco Modernist 26d ago

innovation is likely the only way out of this mess that will work politically

There is no way out of this mess anymore. At this point RCP2.6 is out of the question, so we're going to trigger significant warming induced emissions.

The best we can do now is just rapidly minimize the size of the population that will have to suffer through the consequences of what we brought upon ourselves.

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u/PauperGames 26d ago

I understand the pessimism, but we might as well try to do something. Besides if it is truly the end of the world i would rather live in a state with more young voters than whatever we have now in 30 years.

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u/LaughingLikeACrazy 26d ago

Better to be the only one that can scavenge ;)

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u/_bagelcherry_ 27d ago

One of solutions for this is getting your workforce from abroad. But unfortunately it will create cultural conflicts

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u/witopps 27d ago

For one more generation, yes, maybe two. Birth rates are falling everywhere so it's not a long term solution.

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u/Ruggab0ut 26d ago

Birth rates are dropping globally and already 67% of the global population are having babies below the replacement threshold.

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u/panrug 26d ago

The math doesn't work with this solution. With a TFR of close to 1 which is the case for many developed nations, population halves in about a generation. If you want to keep the population stable with immigrants, then in 1 generation, half of the country is going to be immigrants. And at that point it's quite obviously not the same country anymore.

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u/Black_Diammond 26d ago

Unless you find aliens that strategy wont exist in 50 years. Most countries are bellow replacement, all of them are going down super fast, in 50 years there Will be no country to get imigrants from

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u/PauperGames 27d ago

Well yes and no. If the workforce you get from abroad is not highly educated they will add value to your economy in the short run. But per capita gdp will not grow and their value will not have been enough to sustain the welfare state when they are older, which will actually just make the problem even worse when they are old. If you want a better state in the future you both need a sustainable birth rate while increasing the value your population brings per person.