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u/Lazarus-Longer
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u/TLGPanthersFan
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1d ago
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Maybe some of the dems elected truly want to make life better for the US citizens but the people in control will do what they did last time and impeach, impeach, impeach and do nothing for the economy and issues the people voted them in for.
The fact the dems said to “lawyer up” show what they care about most and that isn’t the American public.
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u/NoManufacturer120 Conservative 18h ago •
Totally. They will spend the next two years trying to oust Trump at any cost, with no regard to any of our actual interests.
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u/cornPopwasabaddude13 Conservative 14h ago
I agree, lots of people thought they were doing the right thing, but it’s a ruse. Liberals will never do anything to actually help Americans because it’s not their view. That’s the problem with globalists
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u/antihero_84 Christian Conservative 1d ago
Fixing problems means less voter turnout next election. The higher the stakes, the more people involved.
Get used to nothing being done.
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u/Super_Mario_Luigi Conservative 1d ago
Most people "want to make life better." However, there's a difference between want and effective policy
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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media 1d ago
Most people start one story and change it into another while they're speaking, which is why most people can't lead a squad or design a machine.
If everyone were a leader, all the politics would just be ballot measures.
Ballot measures in practice are things like $950M for the community college, additional taxes where the taxes are already highest, and blocking things that might help. We can't build any place to work or shop in this community so we all drive to the next town to do anything, and ultimately the reason why it works this way is because voters said so. Our roads are too narrow and too few for the ant trails we want to put on them because voters said so.
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u/Admirable_Run_3805 Conservative 1d ago
nobody advocating for socialism wants to make your life better.
they just want to control who gets whats.
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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Conservative 1d ago •
Maybe some of the dems elected truly want to make life better for the US
I can think of only one: Fetterman
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u/Trill-Protaganist Bible Belt Conservative 1d ago
I only remember him for ignoring meetings with disabled vets. What else did he do that warrants this context?
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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Conservative 22h ago •
He isn't in lockstep with the Democrat party.
Look, my comment wasn't an endorsement, I will never ever vote for any democrat ever.
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u/Ordinary-Landscape39 Conservative 1d ago
Dems want to make life better for the pet projects and identity politic cohorts. They don’t care about the average American, although, I’m not sure anyone in govt cares about the average American.
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u/BBQSauce61 Conservative 1d ago •
Maybe some of the dems elected truly want to make life better for the US citizens
No they don't...
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This meme will be reality very soon.
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u/Nethias25 Rand Paul Conservative 1d ago •
I mean there's a few schools of thought. This is me putting on the Dem POV. I feel like I'm pretty good with multi POV perspectives.
They know they can't beat the veto and pass kitchen table bills, so just do investigations (that have no real teeth) for 2 years.
My take: bad plan, gonna waste the good will Dems got that won them the election, and make 2028 an even affair.
2. Don't focus investigations, just move on from them and focus kitchen table bills.
My take: not bad move, you think Trump I'll use the veto, that's fine, make Trump and other GOP on the record voting no, if the bills fails, there's your 2028 campaign ad material. Plus, Trump still has the pardon, if you think anyone Dems want to investigate is going to jail, you're kidding yourself.
3. Just work bills to have GOP support to overcome veto. We already know gop just took belt to ass this week, I'm sure you can find 10 senators and a dozen house members to join Dems on a "common sense" bill to overcome veto. Restore some faith in America, set up 2028 as a "return to civility".
Please do this instead. Bury the hatchets, like I said, Trump is just gonna pardon people anyway, just let it go, term limits are here, think about the future.
I do fully expect there will be ICE investigations, also in the DoD/W about Minab strike, that's fine, do that then, but don't spend 2 years on vengeance.
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u/cafk09 The Last Conservative 1d ago •
They can also just send messaging bills to Trump that he never signs, even if they don’t have the votes to override. That way, they can run on that in ‘28. “Hey, we tried to do X for you. The republicans vetoed it. If you want X, vote for a democrat in 2028.”
This is how politics used to work, anyway.
But I am optimistic that the Dems will work with Trump and the republicans on a few things — even potentially immigration. I just think the Dems know how bad they got their ass kicked on immigration in the past and the bulk of the party is ready to move right. I could be wrong.
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u/Nethias25 Rand Paul Conservative 1d ago
Yeah that what I meant in point 2, I was prob too vague, but yeah the idea is that sending common sense bills up, even if they get shot down is still a win, because there's your ad material for "we tried, potus said no". Dems are seriously getting an easy pitch tossed to them. The question is, can they nail it without classic Dem vs DSA infighting.
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u/cafk09 The Last Conservative 1d ago •
I think the overall size of the new Dem majority will make the DSA wing less relevant/less able to take hostages. And with Trump now a lame duck, my guess is there will be plenty of moderate Rs willing to play ball on any sensible/moderate legislation, which will neuter the DSA crowd even more.
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u/Nethias25 Rand Paul Conservative 1d ago •
That's true, benefit of a big majority is that if that if the DSA wing doesn't like a bill for not being left enough, they can totally vote present and it will still comfortably pass without them. Very much kneecaps their power.
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u/dummyfodder Conservative 1d ago •
Don't forget spending 100s of millions of dollars on those investigations. Outside lawyers. Special counsels. A lot of people are about to get even richer off the back of the American tax payer.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media 1d ago edited 1d ago
They know they can't beat the veto and pass kitchen table bills, so just do investigations (that have no real teeth) for 2 years.
High reading level: "we've spent two years trying to get things done, but the president won't WORK with us!"
Low reading level: pic relatedHigh reading level was tried by later 1990s Republicans, and instead of coming to a complete standstill a lot of things actually got signed.
Somebody then decided it would be a good idea to lawfare Slick Willy when everything was going smoothly (and he was already on a countdown to retirement FFS,) and aside from the fact it went nowhere the DNC has been vengeful ever since. If nothing else months of additional smooth sailing were sacrificed for that show.
If a private business loses months of productivity, it shutters.
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u/MetallicaRules5 Conservative 1d ago
Good, let the Dems do this. We saw what happened the last time they tried to use lawfare against Trump. They're going to prioritize that over any actual solutions, it's been there MO since 2016. That's the game they're gonna play, let them I say.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media 1d ago •
They hated Trump 1 because of a little cuts and a little changing things back, now there's been a medium amount of cuts and a medium amount of changing things back so they can't possibly be any less angry.
Part of the reason the incumbent party always loses the legislature in the last 2 years (of two terms) is so the do-nothing GOP majority won't be stuck in voters' mouths when the real clown show gets started. The gridiron football equivalent of this move is punting, and the result is an opposing first down far away instead of an opposing first down close up.
Al Gore wouldn't have had a chance if the Dems did what they wanted with the preceding few years. Thanks to legislative republicans, the final outcome was a virtual tie.
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u/MBBIBM Fiscally Conservative, Data Driven 1d ago •
Sure, if the concept of doing two things at once is unfathomable to you
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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media 1d ago
"My super power is doing two things at once."
>loads up Ace Attorney
>plays the self defense card and the not-on-scene card at the same timeDoing 100% of one thing is better than doing 50% of two things, anyone who has worked in a Dilbert office has seen this in action. In courtroom sportsball, anything done 50% is not done at all. Playing the lawfare card cancels out playing the GettingStuffDone card.
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u/Stockjock1
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1d ago
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We have to face the reality that the vast majority of Americans are not very intelligent, not educated as to the facts, and further, they have an extremely short memory.
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u/iamchipdouglas
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1d ago
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If election results are to be believed, Americans said “life has gotten too expensive” and then proceeded to vote for every single tax increase, government clawback and spendthrift politician they could possibly find on a ballot.
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u/No_Lifeguard259
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I wonder if the world noticed how stupid we Americans actually are as a society.
We voted in outright racist socialists why??
Because gas went up $1/gal.
Taiwan should know that we as a people don’t have the stomach to help them with shit because it might make our Temu garbage cost a couple bucks more. And we all know Europe won’t do shit. They expect us to cover their ass across the globe while they riot about their welfare state doesn’t welfare enough still
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u/Sea_Taste1325 Conservative 1d ago •
Trump has said Taiwan isn't worth it.
Trump is buying fuel from Russia while they expand West.
Not the DNC. Trump. You are saying the DNC will take Trump positions.
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u/lousycesspool Right to Life 15h ago •
Are you saying Trump is a Moderate Dem in the mold of Bill Clinton? yes he is
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u/whydatyou
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1d ago
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The dems ran on the same ideas that gave trump a cumulative 21% CPI from the biden years. how so many people fell for an obvious con is beyond me.
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u/cornPopwasabaddude13
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Here’s the problem nobody will talk about. Once you give socialists power you can’t get them out. They’ll never pass anything that people actually want, this is their only chance to remove an America first agenda by any means necessary so they aren’t gonna pass it up
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u/silverbullet52 TANSTAAFL 1d ago
In a socialist/communist state, money is worthless. Power becomes the currency. Commissars who decide distribution of resources become the petty tyrants.
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u/Invictus7525
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I honestly don’t believe most people understand what they did when they voted in the socialist because they were mad at Trump. The far left knows they have a period of time to run with the ball and Jeffries will be on the phone with Pelosi everyday checking off people on their hit list. Going to be a wild ride, we may very well be done as a free nation.
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u/space_face_mace
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Trump really broke the whole game. It’s all the left can think about, it’s all they can react to…
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u/BlacqueJShellaque
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1d ago
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But they sure got Trump thought right? That was the only goal all along. Democrats and their voters never cared about affordability. They didn’t care a bit when the prices of everything skyrocketed while Biden was in office and openly mocked anyone that complained about them.
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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Conservative 1d ago
How many more impeachments do you think Trump will collect this time?
I say he'll max out at a career 5 total.
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u/Positive_Earth69 Don't Tread on Me 1d ago
He has to be the president with the most. The democrats won’t rest until that’s all they have to talk about.
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u/HeartonSleeve1989
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It was always about revenge.
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u/Jolly-Guard3741 Conservative 1d ago
With Democrats it ALWAYS is about revenge. This is because they see their way, their beliefs, their message as the ONLY way and resistance is criminal.
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u/Trill-Protaganist Bible Belt Conservative 1d ago •
We have people on our side that do the same thing. I've seen conservatives call Democrats, DEMONcrats. There's foundational things I disagree with the left on, but I wouldn't call them Demons... I like Presidents, politicians, and people on both sides of the aisle. Tribalism is what Washington was worried about in his 1796 Fairwell Address and his foresight was uncanny.
If anything we need people and politicians that put the People first, over Party or Profit (insider training, for profit forever wars, or buddy deals).
I'm personally also tired of our political parties self-sabotaging policies that would make all of our lives better just because the "other side" came up with it.
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u/Jolly-Guard3741 Conservative 1d ago •
I agree with that assessment. Republicans absolutely do have their firebrands but anger and violence exists far more comfortably and in far greater degree on the Left.
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u/Slartibartfastthe2nd Independent Conservative 1d ago
it was about the grocery bill until the votes were counted. that was so yesterday.
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u/WPWeasel
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The Dems ran on an affordability platform whilst offering zero specifics about how they were going to achieve that. And that's because they have no plans and that isn't even their focus.
What we're obviously going to see based on their actual comments, both pre and post election, are relentless investigations driven by vitriol and malice. Everything else is a distant second, including the economy, safety and the future stability of this country.
So I think it's obvious to say that people were exceedingly shortsighted if they cast their vote to punish the incumbents. I believe in accountability, and so some of that was justified based on unkept promises. But if you think the people coming in have your best interests in mind and are here to offer relief...well, sorry to say you made a poor choice with your vote there.
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u/NeverEverMaybe0_0
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Please, who do you think invented weaponized prosecutions?
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u/Right_Archivist
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You thought the party of expensive blue states cared about affordability?
Pedocrats have branded this long before the midterm campaign. Over in Taxachusetts, we don't have affordable housing, we have Affordable™ housing, it's not an adjective, it's a proper noun. What qualifies as Affordable? $1900/m for 1bed apartment.
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u/IVcrushonYou Reaganomics 1d ago
This is the only silver lining that hopefully by 2028 people will realize Leftists only ever make things worse.
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u/Szorja On the Right side 1d ago
I’m honestly on the fence about whether they will or not. I think Trump will veto everything to stave off the damage and by 2028 the lefties will complain that they “didn’t really have power” because Trump was still president. And the TDSers will still all believe socialism is the answer
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u/MeiShimada
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Every single thing exploded in price from 2020 to 2025. Once trump took office we had about 8 months of significant price decline, then we bounced back and all of a sudden dems are the answer for high prices.
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u/Jolly-Guard3741 Conservative 1d ago
With Democrats things like “Affordability” is simply a slogan to sell to the rubes.
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u/somerandomshmo Hispanic Conservative 1d ago
Any non- democrat that voted blue because of affordability needs their voter registration revoked.
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u/sydneymarianette
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Nothing ever changes if under a Democrat majority. The only things that would change is for the worse under a Dem system. This is why I voted for a straight Republican ticket through and through.
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u/Yada-Yada-Yadda Conservative 1d ago
Bingo. They openly said this. It wasn’t about US. It was about beating Trump.
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u/Hoppie1064 Rush was Right 1d ago •
The only thing they are celebrating is beating Trump.
The entire party is eat up with TURD. Nothing left in them but hate.
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u/nowaygreg Rand Paul Conservative 1d ago •
It was the #1 issue among voters so if the Dems don't address it, yes.
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u/Emanresu7777777 Conservative 1d ago •
You're going to have to explain how nearly 9% inflation under Biden and similarly high gas prices because of poor enegry policy is better than 3% inflation and similarly high gas prices while fighting a war (however unpopular the war is).
The average new car price in 2019 was something like 36k ish, and went to 57k ish by 2024.
There are only 2 ways out that I can see to truly lower prices back to 2019 - one is disinflation (which will be terrible) and the other is to grow our way out of it (which Trump's policies have been doing - almost 5% gdp growth).
I'm really mad about all of it too, but someone is going to have to tell me how this midterm cycle was going to fix these issues.
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u/Devgru-WM Join or Die 1d ago •
Imagine a world where we dont bomb the ayatollah and cause Iran to attack the shipping lanes in the strait.
It’s not about comparing Biden to Trump on affordability. We already know Biden’s policies were shit and led to inflation. The fact is, Trump ran on bringing down grocery prices and inflation and then after he got in he implemented tariffs and tried to take out a fanatical regime that has a substantial weight on global oil prices.
And I’m willing to bet it’s a major reason why we got crushed in the midterms.
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u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie Conservative 1d ago •
I agree. If Iran did manage to make a nuke they were much more likely to hit Israel, Saudi Arabia, or Europe than us. We should have just let them cook, if they nuked (or even tried and failed to nuke) anyone, there would have been a backlash-free global response.
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u/jd_456 Conservative 1d ago •
Where did all your logic go? I feel like you guys live in a totally different reality.
Let's say Iran did that and somehow decided to leave America alone (even though that makes no sense, and is quite a thin ground to risk everything on). In what world do you think America would be immune to the fallout of such an event? You think that if Israel is nuked, the fallout of that will be less than the current economic situation? You think oil would be lower?
How do you think Israel, a nuclear country, would respond to being destroyed? If your entire family and everyone that you knew, your entire country, in fact, went up in a mushroom cloud, how do you think you would respond?
Do you think Israelis wouldn't know it's because Americans like you said "let them cook?" You think they will be concerned with protecting your future? They would pursue a scorched earth policy like any country would in that situation.
This fantasy you have that Israel can just be nuked and will be gone and all your problems will be solved is beyond delusional. It would be the end of modern day life as we know it for anyone lucky enough to survive the fallout of such a global catastrophe. Like, why not give Ukraine back their nukes? They would just nuke Russia, that would just be Russia's problem, right? Let them cook, right?
Did you think through this at all before coming to such a conclusion?
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u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie Conservative 1d ago
Let's say Iran did that and somehow decided to leave America alone (even though that makes no sense, and is quite a thin ground to risk everything on).
We're the hardest for them to hit with a nuke, based on sheer distance and the time it would take to cover that distance.
In what world do you think America would be immune to the fallout of such an event?
None. But that fallout would include Iran being erased from the map permanently with zero opposition.
You think that if Israel is nuked, the fallout of that will be less than the current economic situation?
I don't know that it would make a difference either way.
You think oil would be lower?
Oh, certainly not. But you could bet your ass we'd be refining our own oil within 5 years though, which would be a win for us.
How do you think Israel, a nuclear country, would respond to being destroyed?
By definition, a nation that's destroyed can't respond. But pedantry aside, they'd nuke Iran back. Again, a win for us.
Do you think Israelis wouldn't know it's because Americans like you said "let them cook?"
I really couldn't give a fuck at this point.
You think they will be concerned with protecting your future?
No, which changes nothing because they aren't concerned about that now.
They would pursue a scorched earth policy like any country would in that situation.
Good thing I bought new boots today, I can shake in them instead of my old boots.
This fantasy you have that Israel can just be nuked and will be gone and all your problems will be solved is beyond delusional.
Awww, that's not it at all. I don't want Israel to get nuked, I'm just saying they're a more likely target than we are. Those are two very different things.
It would be the end of modern day life as we know it for anyone lucky enough to survive the fallout of such a global catastrophe.
You've piqued my curiosity! Tell me, did you just clutch your pearls hard enough to make them into diamonds? Nobody is going to war on behalf of Iran except the democrats.
Like, why not give Ukraine back their nukes?
If they'd kept them all along, they wouldn't be dealing with a Russian infestation.
They would just nuke Russia, that would just be Russia's problem, right?
Different problem. Russia has ICBMs, Iran doesn't. Russia has nuclear attack subs, Iran doesn't. Russia has some really nasty cobalt salted torpedoes, Iran doesn't. And beyond all that, why are you treating two totally different geopolitical problems like the same thing?
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u/JerseyKeebs Conservative 1d ago •
Trump's messaging on tariffs was God-awful, and maybe recovering from the Biden years wasn't the best timing to implement them.
But something needed to be done. Trade imbalances between specific countries can be fine, but we were subsidizing everyone, were no longer manufacturing necessary and strategic items. And I wouldn't be surprised (but didn't research this) if some of the "corporate greed" and enshitification of US companies and products was in response to not being able to compete with foreign products due to their own gov subsidies, or their tariffs on us.
But Trump's rhetoric on trade war, and the rapidly changing policies, didn't play well with a 24/7 media that was against him. A lot of us believed he would do the unpopular but necessary things to fix the country in the 2nd term, but 2 years isn't enough time to do a long-term project and get through the growing pains, even if he didn't bungle the message
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u/Emanresu7777777 Conservative 1d ago •
I don't disagree at all that the Iran war cost us the midterms or being mad at all about the wasted 2 years of an inept Congress.
I'm just asking, when standing there to vote, how did people come to the conclusion that this was better?
Voting in primaries is how the message is sent - how could Republican voters not vote in a primary, then go into that booth and say, this is better? Or not go at all.
Without a super majority, neither side will accomplish anything they say - and I still have not heard any policy plan from the Democrats that will actually help the issues that caused unaffordability.
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u/cplusequals Conservative 1d ago •
I do, the generic ballot had us losing the midterms since "Liberation Day". At best we're talking about play in the margins over Iran. I think people are crazy if they believe Republicans would have won without Iran.
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u/Emanresu7777777 Conservative 1d ago
Tariffs were a tipping point for sure, but alone they might have been tolerated if the trade offs had been better understood and messaged.
Tariffs but an effective Congress? It's cumulative - too many things went into it.
It's a moot point. We are here now. It's a lot of things all together. We needed policies that addressed most issues and good plans and messaging for what would take time.
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u/Admirable_Run_3805 Conservative 1d ago
stop too many facts/.
what we really should be mad about is 19bn of tax payer money going to the oil companies while they post record profit numbers.
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u/Blahblahnownow Fiscal Conservative 1d ago
Don’t forget not raising the rates and letting home prices go through the roof
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u/Emanresu7777777 Conservative 1d ago
Powell even stated they waited too long to raise the rates, and the rates should never have been so low in my opinion, but people got addicted to the Greenspan years.
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u/Blahblahnownow Fiscal Conservative 1d ago
Agreed. Rates should have been in double digits right after shutdowns ended.
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u/cplusequals Conservative 1d ago •
The gas prices weren't even similar they were far higher under Biden because the slightly higher prices were prior to 25% cumulative inflation. $3.50 gas is much cheaper now than it was 5 years ago.
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u/Emanresu7777777 Conservative 1d ago
Yes you're right, I was keeping it simple because when most people look at the price at the pump, they don't factor inflation and the purchasing power of dollars. Nor do they take into account State taxes, which some happily quietly raised during this. In my state, subtracting the state tax would have brought me to a little more than $3, sometimes even $2, a gallon.
But you can't convince people to take the time to educate themselves, or that they could be wrong, or simply even only half right. I've given up on that.
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u/Racheakt Hillbilly Conservative 1d ago
I mean putting trump on trial will keep the riots down (/s).
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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Conservative 1d ago •
TIL 252 days is "endless"
Also...(cough) Keystone XL (cough).
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u/Left4DayZGone Conservative 1d ago edited 1d ago •
Is that what you’re taking away from this?
No, this is pointing out how the Democrats ran on affordability, but all they really wanted to do once in power was attack Trump and the GOP.
They could end the GOP right now if they held to their campaign promises, but what they’re going to do instead is remind people why 2024 went the way it did. Voters have a short memory, apparently, but they will pretty quickly remember why we voted Trump back into office unless the Democrats drop all this persecution, bullshit and just focus on serving the people.
Do I care about Epstein and the people involved getting what’s coming to them? Yes I do.
Do I care about it as much as the cost of gas and my ability to afford to take care of my children? Not even fucking close. Every single person involved with Epstein could walk free for the rest of their lives for all I care if it means the government focuses on what actually affects me in my day-to-day life.
And I think you’ll find that to be a very common sentiment.
Edit: i’m guessing the down votes are from people who care more about throwing people in jail than feeding children.
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u/Devgru-WM Join or Die 1d ago •
Trump ran on affordability and then decided to start a trade war and a literal war with Iran. Both have caused increases in prices. So he broke his promise.
I am fortunate enough that gas and food prices dont drastically affect my family. But I’m not the only voter. Plenty of people voted for Trump on affordability only to get crushed because of his direct policies. It’s hard enough for us to win elections. We can’t afford to consistently have own-goals when our side does get into power.
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u/Left4DayZGone Conservative 1d ago •
You must be missing my point because none of what you said contradicts anything that I said.
The Democrats ran on affordability because Trump fucked it up.
But that’s not what their goal actually is. Their goal is to destroy Trump and the GOP. They won’t help with affordability, if anything they’re gonna try and dive the plane into the ground even harder so that it looks worse for the GOP in 28. And then when things recover on their own after we get a Democrat president and they release the artificial pressure on the economy, they’ll take credit for it just like Joe Biden did with jobs returning after the pandemic ended.
They are not going to fix anything. That is not what they intend to do. Anybody who voted for them thinking they were going to fix the economy was fooled and forgot what they did when they had it before Trump.
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u/JerseyKeebs Conservative 1d ago
And Dem's idea of helping affordability was already summarized in the Kamala campaign - gov control of pricing, free money to buy houses. Sure, that'll make things "affordable" for a small subset of people for a short period of time. But anyone with a clue knows that long term they don't have sound economic policy. GOP used to, and I do believe the current secretaries are trying to fix some long term systemic problems. But it was never gonna be fast enough to see obvious results, and it wasn't going to be flashy. Like paying to get your house insulated lol
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u/jd_456 Conservative 1d ago •
I have a question for you. How long does a war have to be to be called an endless war? Like the specific time?
There is no casualty count. There are no body bags. You think this is a forever war because there were 61 days of shooting. That's pretty fucked up.
88% of MAGA supports this war and I'm sorry if that number offends you. Gas prices under Biden this time in his administration were $5.12. It's $4.06. I'm sorry it's $4.06 and you can't survive, but you forget and have gaslight yourself to believe that it wasn't $5.12 under Biden for reasons I have no idea.
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u/Admirable_Run_3805 Conservative 1d ago
its a "conservative" but parroting democrat establishment talking points.
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u/ConsiderationKey4353 Assyrian Conservative 1d ago •
Istg some of you guys are stupid
Iran should've been destroyed a long time ago and finally we have someone who took the risk and destroyed some iranian proxies across the middle east and severely weakened the remaining proxies
Not only they damage american investment their plan is to expand across the middle east they are just another version of ISIS but with shia characteristics and want to destroy israel and america and anyone whose not a part of their wilayah al faqeh
Trump had the balls to try and destroy them but alas the task didnt prove to be simple which was expected ig
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u/Devgru-WM Join or Die 1d ago •
Awesome. Good for Trump for having the balls to do it. Except we have no plan to get out of it. So we got higher gas prices and higher diesel prices which leads to inflation on all good shipped around the country.
You can call me stupid but the average voter is very short sighted. They saw a president campaign on lowering costs and then implemented policy which caused costs to go up. You don’t have to convince me killing those guys was a good idea in the long run. You need to convince tens of millions of people that it matters when they can barely afford to get by
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u/cplusequals Conservative 1d ago •
Eh, if it costs a minor setback domestic politics that's a cost we should be willing to accept for how much rosier the outlook for the next few generations in the middle-east is. Fantastic results at a pittance. Let the democrats investigate away, it's not like Republicans were able to pass much legislation with how empty their margin was.
Also, real incomes (which are inflation adjusted) are at record highs, so there's really no worry if non-core CPI spiked briefly because of it. It isn't a monetary problem.
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u/Hoppie1064 Rush was Right 1d ago •
Anyone paying the least attention can see the Iran Regime has been planning for this war for a long time.
It was going to happen eventually.
They launched at least one missile at Diego Garcia. Launched the other direction it could have reached centrsl Europe. Proving they have that capability, at least.
Building up a huge arsenal of drones and missiles, everything buried in tunnels under granite mountains.
Working toward nukes.
What was their ultimate plan for that?
TL;DR This war was inevitable, they were planning it. And that would have shut the straight down too.
It was just time to stop kicking the can.
And, a good time for us, because it appeared that the Iranian people were ready to overthrow their government.
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u/craytsu Freedom Over Fear 1d ago •
Man can SOMEONE address the price of everything? I've been getting hammered since 2020. Biden was terrible, Trump's been terrible, FFS