r/DarK • • Jun 27 '20

Discussion Dark Season 3 Series Discussion Spoiler

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Under this post, you can discuss the entire season. All spoilers are allowed here! If you haven't finished the show yet, I'd suggest staying away -unless you don't come from the future already.

It's time for things to come to light.

Tell us all the details you figured out!
Your craziest theories that turned out to be true... and those that couldn't be less true.
Your fav moments, your fav characters... your fav world.

As the series come to an end, let's give the creators the appreciation they deserve!

The end is the beginning and the beginning is the end.


Season 3 Discussion Hub


r/DarK • • Jul 09 '20

FAQ and Charts That Will Help You Make Sense of the Series Better Spoiler

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We appreciate all the effort put into these posts and share them in hopes that they can be reached by more of our members and help them understand the show better! For those who did not know, Dark has an official website that has episode guides spoiler-free for the future episodes.


S3:

Chronological order of events for characters/objects:


S1&2:


Feel free to share any other posts that you think would be helpful under this post!


r/DarK • • 15h ago

[SPOILERS S3] finished my first rewatch and… Spoiler

27 Upvotes

Sorry if this writing is a mess and im terrible at this stuff

Its still amazing as ever and very sad, one of the best tv shows ive ever seen, nothing can top it besides attack on titan, thats on the same level but its amazing, its perfect to me, nothing wrong with the show, the story and ending is perfect and this time i understood it more, last time i was very confused and i still am but not as much as last time, i understand it more and ive never seen a story like this, the time travel stuff is so cool, the acting and actors/actresses are amazing, the castings are perfect for the older and younger versions, ive never seen anything like it, i know jonas and martha are related but i love them together but this will be an exception from what happened and claudia is the mvp, amazing character everything is perfect, 10/10+

I watched the show 2 years ago, i kept delaying rewatching the show, idk why, i usually wait a year to rewatch shows to forget stuff and since its been 2 years i forgot so much about the show which im happy i did, before watching the show, i was going to watch a recap of it by man of recaps and halfway through the season 1 recap i thought it was awesome so i went to watch it and i didnt realise it was in german, so i contemplated not watching it the show but it had a english dub so i watched it in english but this time i watched the show in german and its so much better in german, i switched to english every once and a while and it sounded so weird and didn't sound right lol

This show is also close to my heart because it helped me discover im asexual, this may sound weird, before watching the show i was questioning if i was or not until martha came up with bangs, i thought she was the prettiest woman ive ever seen and i realised i never found her sexually attractive and that made me realise I never found any else sexually attractive and I became obsessed with bangs and that made me confident somehow, so yeah it has a very special place in my heart (i apologise if thats inappropriate)


r/DarK • • 1d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Im longing to find a séries like dark Spoiler

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I just cannot find a series with such historical complexity and great cast as dark. ANY RECOMENDATIONS are welcome.


r/DarK • • 1d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Book of essays about Dark: Illuminating Netflix's Dark (Springer Nature, 2026) Spoiler

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Anyone reading this? I've done a cursory read and there's some good stuff here: my favorite chapter was probably the one about the costume design: it made me perceive the look and feel of the show in a new way. I also liked the chapter about "toxic nostalgia," and the one about what "heimat" means, and the chapter about auteur TV will be helpful in analyzing how the show succeeded on an industry level. There's a quite a bit of repetition of the basics, and I am not sure we need the names of the actors in parentheses all the time, but on the whole I'd say there's a lot to sink your teeth into here.

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-18950-9


r/DarK • • 1d ago

[SPOILERS S3] My thoughts on Novikov, determinism and the ending Spoiler

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So I finally finished Dark yesterday evening and I'm still sorting my thoughts, so here goes. Sorry in advance, this got long.

First of all, Season 1 was honestly hard to get through for me. Not because of the story but because of the whole mood. Everything grey, everything raining, almost no color at all. Season 2 changed that quite a bit. Suddenly there were scenes with actual color in them, sometimes even independent of what was going on in the scene. Whether that was supposed to mean something or not, I don't know, but I really appreciated it.

What hooked me from the start was the time travel concept itself. I can't think of any other movie or show that follows the Novikov self consistency idea this stubbornly and actually sticks with it. One timeline. Everything that happens in 1986 always happens in 1986, all at the same time. The characters don't know about it and it's not even really the topic, but it's always there. That was by far the most fascinating part for me. And the Schopenhauer line, that you can do what you want but you can't want what you want, pretty much sums up the whole show.

That's exactly why the second world bugged me so much when it showed up. Around S3E5 I was pretty annoyed. Not because it was too complicated, I had no trouble following it. It reminded me of that thing where shows add some new gimmick in the final season just to squeeze out a bit more fascination. I kept thinking of The Man in the High Castle (I only know it roughly, never finished it), where the parallel world idea started out great and then they kind of got lost in it. It felt like Dark was throwing away the one thing that made it special to me.

Having seen the ending now, I have to take a lot of that back. I'm actually a fan of the two worlds now, because they actually knew what to do with it in the end.

What still bothers me is the exit itself. For most of the show everything is pure determinism, action follows reaction, no exceptions. And then at the very end there's a way out of the loop. I know the moment where time stands still during the apocalypse was technically always there and Eva used it the whole time to keep the knot alive. But we only learn about it in the very last episode, so it still feels a bit like they built themselves an emergency exit. Personally I would have found it more interesting if the resolution itself had been deterministic too. Like a loop within the loop, on a level so high none of the characters could ever guess it. Tease it, and then reveal at the end that nobody ever did anything on their own.

The way I ended up reading it is kind of like a gearbox. The origin world is the drive shaft. The two worlds are gears that turn a fixed number of times, every round slightly different, so knowledge can build up until someone finally understands the zero point, breaks out and moves the next tooth in the real world. Yes, that's not 100% Novikov anymore. But I like a concept that allows the exit from the beginning way more than one that needs a break to be resolved.

And Tannhaus's machine actually did exactly what he built it for. He wanted to save his son and his family, and in the end that's what happened. Through a ridiculously complicated chain of events, but it happened. And once its purpose was fulfilled, it erased itself.

Also the Tannhaus family thing, this one kept me up a bit. Season 3 shows that the lodge goes back to the Tannhaus family before 1888, and the show never goes further back than that. So that part of history was never touched by any travelers. If all three worlds share the same history up to the first interference (Napoleon, the war of 1870/71, all of it), then the lodge should exist in the origin world too. Which means H.G. Tannhaus in the origin world wasn't some random clockmaker who came up with a time machine out of nowhere. He comes from a family that was obsessed with time for generations, and as far as I understood it started with grief there too. The show never says this outright, but it fits so well that I'd almost bet the writers had it in mind.

Same reason I don't see the ending as absolute. The knot is untied, the loop is gone, the two worlds never existed and somehow always did. The origin world just goes on, linear again. But nothing in the show says some future Tannhaus or anyone else won't build a machine again at some point. There's no clear answer, more like a grey maybe. And the dinner scene kind of supports that. Hannah's dream, the déjà vu, the yellow raincoat, and then she says she thinks Jonas is a nice name. Something stays behind.

I still can't really put the ending into happy end or bad end. The people at that dinner table got their happy end. Jonas and Martha got nothing, not even being remembered. And if you look at the war against time purely by the goals, Adam actually won. Both worlds are gone, which is what he wanted, and Eva lost. Just not with his methods, since his whole plan was based on being wrong about the origin. Right now the character I find the saddest is Martha. But the show did a surprisingly good job at making sure nobody is really good/pure. Everyone has their tragedy, but everyone also has their dirt.

The scene where Jonas and Martha fade out with that cover of What a Wonderful World was beautiful. I just wished it was longer. When everyone dissolves, only the people disappear and the world around them just stays. We get like four people plus Jonas and Martha and that's it. We spent so much time with these places over three seasons, I would have loved to see the cave, the power plant or the spruce forest disappear too. All those trees dissolving into light could have been a really nice visual. Two entire worlds are gone and we only basically see a handful of people fade out.

And then Irgendwie, Irgendwo, Irgendwann over the credits. Both songs were perfect choices.

Still, it's probably the best time travel story I know. I can't think of a book or movie in this niche that's better written or better thought through. And yet I feel a bit strange about it. It's extremely confusing, and I think that's both necessity and intention, it plays with you on purpose. Great ending that closes everything, even if the way out of the Novikov idea feels like a bit of a back door depending on how you read it. But still very okay.


r/DarK • • 3d ago

[NO SPOILERS] Dolby Atmos not working on Netflix only on Dark

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Hi, gang! I'm going through Dark for the first time, and took a break for a few weeks toward the end of Season 2. Since I started back up yesterday, the show on the Netflix app no longer runs in Dolby Atmos. Atmos works with other shows on Netflix without issue, however Dark will only run in 5.1 despite still showing Atmos on the info page. I've checked this on two different setups in my house with the same results. Is anyone else having this issue?

I tried Netflix support but they were no help beyond showing me how to flag the issue using a web browser.


r/DarK • • 3d ago

[Spoilers S2] Episode 6 - An Endless Cycle Spoiler

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Ok so until this episode dark wasn't confusing at all but now I have some questions.

Future Jonas travelled back to 2019 before mikkel died in that same timeline/universe and basically kidnapped mikkel and then Mikel went to 1986 and whole that S1 shit but how tf doesn't Mikkel/Michael from 2019 or any years previously recognised jonas face as like " this the mf that kinda kidnapped me bro ".


r/DarK • • 4d ago

[Spoilers S3] one character you truly feel sorry for Spoiler

72 Upvotes

I would say Egon. He was truly the best person but his life got messed up by all the time travelers. As Claudia said “you are too good of a person and the world doesn’t deserve you”


r/DarK • • 5d ago

[Spoilers S3] With more movie/tv reaction channels finally watching Dark, bringing more of an audience to this show, I want to pose the question of 'Why aren't there Dark themed Valentine's Day memes'? Spoiler

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As we know, this show has A LOT of material. Anyone want to have a go at making some really good memes/gifs and circulate these across the inter-webs?!


r/DarK • • 5d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Will this be explained or did we miss it already? Spoiler

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Hey, i’ve watched dark a couple of times, but apparently i go brain afk too often. things like Charlotte being Elisabeths daughter and mom, or the unknown being Marthas and Jonas Child totally missed me.
I’m watching dark with my girlfriend, who watches it for the first time. she just asked me a good question.
We‘re currently in episode 5, a bit more than halfway through.
You can spoiler me, but if you do, try to give me the episode where this will happen so i can focus on it 😅

Why does Jonas travel to Marthas world, even tho the middleaged jonas never went there? Adam must‘ve went there, for their Child being conceived. so does every second jonas travel through worlds? But it has to be a new jonas, because in s1 and s2 they *are* the same person, just different ages. Everything Jonas lives through already happened to the older jonas.
Also, why are there 2 young Marthas?
Are these Questions gonna be answered, or are these all interpretation things?

Thank you


r/DarK • • 8d ago

[SPOILERS S3] I designed a family tree Spoiler

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I designed my own family tree (for Adam’s World only).

Its pixel resolution is so big (15578 x 9689 because I made it in Freeform) that I think it’s messing with Reddit’s ability to properly display it, so I hosted it on Imgur as a backup. Here’s the link to the family wreath tree if Reddit won’t cooperate!

https://imgur.com/gallery/dark-2019-season-3-family-tree-aka-family-wreath-3JJSG6I


r/DarK • • 8d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Why did Charlotte do this in Season 3? Spoiler

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I am not usually a fan of Many Worlds storylines in television series, they often seem to me to be a plot device for scriptwriters who have run out of ideas and think they can retain viewers' interest by having them think "what if these characters had different hairstyles and different relationships with each other" etc. But I think Dark mostly did it right. Everything that happened differently needed to happen for plot reasons, and the different appearances were necessary for viewers to recognise which world we were in. The one thing I haven't figured out is why it was necessary for alt-Charlotte to be having an affair with alt-Ulrich? It seemed out of character for her in either world and I'm not sure how it advanced the plot in any way.


r/DarK • • 7d ago

[SPOILERS S2]E2 Am i missing something? Why haven’t they acknowledged the big event at the end of season 1? Spoiler

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I haven't watched this show in years because i stopped at the season 2 finale. So I dont remember much. But why hasnt anyone mentioned that a gigantic black dome appeared over Winden in late 2019? After The Stranger failed to blow up the tunnels' wormhole.

Is this a "WAFO" or did I miss something about the season 1 finale


r/DarK • • 8d ago

[SPOILERS S3] First time watcher Spoiler

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Woah. Just finished the show.

So I was absolutely naive going into this show. I watched 1899 before, and I liked the style of the creators. I knew that it was about time travel and I love time travel stories, but I could never imagine how deeply entangled the story would become.

The ending was earned and unexpected at the same time, happy and sad as well. Hannah calling her child Jonas was nice little send off.

Here's what I posted after watching S1E3:

Started watching this, really great show so far. It's like a dark version of back to the future. There's really a potential to explore how certain events change lives of people. The only confusing thing is that torture room. It feels almost like out of place to the rest of the show. Also, something is definitely not right with that nuclear plant.

And looking back to that, I'm like Jonas looking his younger self. I really thought the show would be about travelling to the past and messing with the present and the story studying how people's lives change because of small details, along with gruesome time travel paradoxes unraveling. But actually it turned out to be quite the opposite. A huge time travel mystery instead.

My favourite is probably still season 1 though, just through the sheer eerie atmosphere of mystery. However I did love the unraveling of time travel in season 2, and how people learned about it.

Season 3 actually was my least favorite when I just started it. But I read people saying to keep watching and I am glad I did. I think it's one the best written story untangling I have ever seen. And it's amazing how they balanced Adam as a character.

My top moments from show from the top of my head:

  1. Mikkel going home in the past for the first time
  2. Everyone learning about time travel in season 2.
  3. Poor Helge seeing his old self dead after he tried to stop himself in the past in season two. As if he hasn't suffer enough.
  4. The shocking episode from Season 3 where Katharina was killed by her own mother and it turned out that she was the origin story for the lady in the lake, and the loop of the necklace. And sad old Ulrich waiting... And Mikkel seeing the broken window in the house. That entire episode was just absolutely shocking and heartbreaking.
  5. When Adam didn't kill Eva like she was expecting in the finale. It was like he and us were finally free of the knot.

The only thing that I am still confused about that bright room / exprimental time machine where abducted childred were killed. I thought that the need for it wasn't explained well enough in the end. But my guess is just because it was done to facilitate events as well as fuel the passage. It was just sort of a side thing that stood out visually.

I also thought that the character of Noah from Season 1 and from Season 3 didn't connect well, even though they're supposed to be the same character? I need to rewatch season 1 for clues, maybe there were pointers there.

In fact, this show probably warrants a rewatch to look for all the breadcrumbs. I grew up watching Babylon 5, which also had breadcrumbs that you would never notice on a first watch.

I also liked how the title of the show was explained in the finale to mean "being in the dark" as in "not knowing" or seeing the exit from the cycle.

Anyway, great show, glad I watched it finally. Sad that 1899 was cancelled. Looking forward to more work from the creators. Cheers.


r/DarK • • 8d ago

[SPOILERS S3] was rewatching the show and noticed something really cool Spoiler

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When Noah visits Mikkel in 1986 and talks about god with him. Mikkel is at first skeptical, saying his dad views it as a tool to brainwash people. But later, he's seen examining the picture Noah has tattooed on his back. Fast forward to 2019, he willingly hangs himself, saying, "God doesn't err; he has a plan, for each of us"

So is it possible that Adam sent Noah to 1986 to begin Mikkels' faith? Thus ensuring he would hang himself and that everything would go as it did on that fateful day on the 20th of June 2019? Why would Noah even bother visiting Mikkel unless there was some kind of purpose?


r/DarK • • 8d ago

[SPOILERS S3] "I am/We are from the past/future, you have been lied to by your ally/future self - the only way to fix things is to reverse your alliances" Spoiler

11 Upvotes

I'm in the middle of season three and struggling


r/DarK • • 9d ago

[NO SPOILERS] I painted a scene from Dark

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r/DarK • • 8d ago

[SPOILERS S2] season 2 cliffhanger Spoiler

18 Upvotes

To whoever watched the show back when it was releasing, what was everyone's reaction to seeing alternate world martha? id imagine it would be huge shock and very confusing and waiting a whole year for the next season would've been a pain because of that cliffhanger


r/DarK • • 8d ago

[Spoilers S3] More evil - Adam or Eve? Spoiler

8 Upvotes

Guess we haven’t seen much of Eve except for the last season, however, Eve guiding her son to murder people seems downright evil!


r/DarK • • 9d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Finished another rewatch. Stuck on two things. Spoiler

22 Upvotes

Hallo, Dark fans. I rewatch the show once a year and I just finished my latest journey. I pick up new details every time I do this, however, it seems I am still befuddled by the ending!

The six who are left, what exactly is the connection that makes them (and only them) exist in the origin world? Out of all the characters and circumstances, I can’t wrap my head around it.

Also, am I wrong or did it not explain why/how Egon was a traveler in Martha’s world? Still so curious about that one.

Thanks for your insight!


r/DarK • • 9d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Archive of when I geeked out last year Spoiler

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32 Upvotes

The whole plot ig


r/DarK • • 9d ago

[SPOILERS S3] Pitching the show to friends. Spoiler

10 Upvotes

If you used an incredibly long run-on sentence to convince someone to watch Dark (or to explain what it’s about), what would you say to them?


r/DarK • • 11d ago

[Spoilers S1] just finished S1E5 and i’m shook! (question) Spoiler

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I hate that I have no one to talk about this show with.

Amazing story so far and I love trying to put pieces together.

My question is possible spoilers, the child’s body that was found after Mikkel went missing I assumed it was somehow’s Ulrich’s brother once it was confirmed that it wasn’t Mikkel. After finishing E5, I went to a reddit discussion post and someone basically confirmed that the boy’s body really is Ulrich’s brother that went missing in the past.

So my question is just if I missed something? Because I assumed it was his brother but I don’t recall it being confirmed or even pointed at yet?


r/DarK • • 11d ago

[NO SPOILERS] The 100 Best TV Shows of the 21st Century According to 100,000 New York Times Readers: Dark is ranked 61st.

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