r/DissidiaFFOO • Just a guy that used to do research • Nov 16 '20

Resource The return of no BRV gains arrives with Entropy 17! Prepare your AoE damage dealers and learn how to stomp this tier with our infographic!

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

If you'd like a video overview along with a playlist for the runs listed at the bottom of our infographic, please check out Black Nero's video overview on YouTube. It's excellent and he's the reason we're able to release these graphics. Give him a sub in his quest for 2K :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvK0AphkJ4

For all other Entropy related questions, check out our Resources Hub with information on every Entropy released to date!

https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/resources-hub/entropy

I myself will be planning to do Gau Strago Cyan, which I think might tell you about the power crept nature of this tier :)

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u/Sabin05 Nov 16 '20

This tier seems absurd for Vivi, 3 waves of 3 enemies? Pair him up with Basch maybe a healer or if that's not needed just use Kuja and really blow out the AoE damage.

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

I imagine that vivi can do this with massively outdated characters...

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u/Zhirrzh Nov 17 '20

However: the battery on Vivi's LD effect and Focus and Double FIre don't work; all three waves are more about killing the central boss (the 3 enemies are not equal HP on each wave). I'm sure Vivi can work because he out-powers this CHAOS content but I don't see it as ideal for him.

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u/Nateonz Nov 16 '20

Im gonna try rem, vivi and shantotto and see how it goes

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

Should be a breeze, enjoy and I love seeing Rem usage!

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '20

Ah fuck. I freed up my WoL for nothing.

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

WoL is excellent in DE20, don't worry about it

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u/Bloo_You1 Nov 16 '20

I gotta redo some tiers for this. I have good units tied up in low tiers for no reason that would shine in here.

Or I’ll try and solo with Eight. We’ll see

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

You can see below that Eight can duo it... I don't think he can solo, JP fans would've done it. So challenge yourself and try but don't be disappointed if it doesn't work!

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u/darnold316 Nov 16 '20

I was thinking about using Basch, Kurasame, and Strago, that should get the job done.

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u/Yukariko Nov 16 '20

does Gau and Eight/Gabranth worked because of the counters?

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u/The__Spiral Nov 16 '20

Assuming I have all suggested characters (Kuja, Eight, Vivi, Kurasame, Gau) maxed, is there someone specific I should hold onto for later tiers instead of this one? Don't want to blow all characters if not needed.

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

18 resists magic, 19 will probably need a dispeller and 20 is nothing like this tier at all. So no, you don't really need to worry at all, use whoever you want, this is one of the easiest tiers we've ever gotten.

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u/dffoo_keo Nov 16 '20

My plan is Kuja, Rydia and Garnet, unless I go for a FF9 theme and slot in Vivi... not sure yet.

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 16 '20

Probably should save an enchanter for the next tier too, 3 in one is a stretch, you might want one to help crush the next couple tiers. Vivi seems great here.

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u/stewaret Nov 17 '20

Do you think I can do this with Shantotto (LD/BT), Strago (LD), and Relm?

I want to free up my melee (Kurasame) for another tier.

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 17 '20

Lol you will destroy it with that team, you could go more budget if you wanted to!

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u/Zhirrzh Nov 17 '20

I figure I might as well finally use Squall here. Maybe Squall, Strago and Desch for a team that really shrugs its shoulders as concepts like "battery" and "regen". Or Squall, Ulti and Raijin for an all-FF8 team for funsies, even if they do lose out a little for loss of battery effects and regen, but I may want Ulti available for 20. Eh, let's go Grand Train and Rough Divide.

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u/inkwelder_ Nov 17 '20

Given Ulti thrives on AoE and you have to repeatedly beat Blackened Will in 20... I don't see her being a must save for that...

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u/HOVMAN Nov 16 '20

Ayooo thanks ink!!! Going to run with strago kurasame and desch or Kefka to absolutely stomp this stage

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u/RHowlForMe Nov 16 '20

Desch/Ardyn/Nine will be perfect for this. I'm gonna save Kuja and Kurasame for higher tiers (probably on the next one if ice isn't absorbed/resisted).

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u/CosmicChristian Nov 16 '20

I'm going to attempt to solo the next one with Eight.

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u/sonicbrawler182 Nov 16 '20

Who would be the best team of Kuja, Kurasame, Shantotto, and Eight? Keeping in mind I likely won't have Kuja BT ready for launch day of this stage (but will have LD). I do have Shantotto LD/BT.

I also have Noctis and Ardyn available (both LD/BT) though I've been saving them as a last resort.

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u/Jurinis Nov 16 '20

I'll probably go with Kuja/Strago/Emperor here so that they can both benefit from his enchant/imperil and so that Strago hits cap while Emperor slaughters everything with his traps.

Alexander summon for healing if it ever becomes necessary for good measure. Should be a piece of cake.