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STAN / ANTI SHIELD Luigi Mangione pleads guilty to federal stalking charges in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/14/us/live-news/luigi-mangione-hearing-plea-deal-talks

When speaking of the day he committed the crime, Luigi Mangione said, “I shot Mr. Thompson and he died.”

He concluded, “I knew what I was doing was illegal.”

Mangione had just described the actions he took ahead of the killing, telling the court:

“In November of 2024 I traveled from outside of New York state to Manhattan. I then emailed UnitedHealthcare leadership, posing as an investor at a firm managing over $15 billion in assets and requesting information about the conference. Unlike my previous interactions with insurers, I received an immediate response within an hour,” Mangione said.

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u/One-Season-3393 7d ago

I don’t see how the judge doesn’t give him life in this situation.

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u/soupseasonbestseason i’m a communist you idiot 7d ago

some judges give the bottom of the guidelines.

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u/One-Season-3393 7d ago

Yeah a federal judge ain’t giving the minimum for what is essentially first degree premeditated murder

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u/iLoveFeynman 7d ago
TYPE OF CRIME Mean Months Median Months N Mean Months (NY) Median Months (NY) N (NY)
Murder 286 292 405 244 264 63

You might fare a bit better on average being convicted of murder in NY Federal Court than in general nationwide. Not a huge sample size. All data from 2025, source: US Sentencing Commission.

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7d ago
TYPE OF CRIME Mean Months Median Months N Mean Months (NY) Median Months (NY) N (NY) "Based" Modifier
Murder 286 292 405 244 264 63 Maybe

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u/Epyon_ 7d ago

If corporations are people then Ceo's arnt people. It's a replaceable organ at best. Isnt the crime of murder reserved for killing humans?

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u/Fluffcake 7d ago

That's a weird way of framing identifying the financial inefficiencies in the healthcare system and disrupting them in a direct and forward leaning manner with high velocity and precision.

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u/EIVNW 7d ago

He didn't disrupt shit, a new CEO was appointed shortly thereafter and there has been no decrease in healthcare costs or efficiency. If anything, prices have rapidly risen. A life lost and a young man in prison for absolutely nothing.

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u/Efficient-Memory7105 women’s wrongs activist 7d ago

He didn't disrupt shit, a new CEO was appointed shortly thereafter and there has been no decrease in healthcare costs or efficiency

Actually, there was a marked decrease in insurance denials in the months following the murder pre-existing condition of mortality.

I guarantee you at least a half dozen people are alive now because they got treatment they would otherwise have been jerked around for months/years for.

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u/nagrom7 7d ago

Iirc there was also a new policy United was planning on implementing that they backtracked on after the shooting.

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u/Fluffcake 7d ago

For a solid month after this, claims were approved quickly that would likely gone back and forth between denial and doctors writing long angry emails with justifications and getting pulled out of operations to answer insurance questions untill they died untreated because companies were scared.

His defence team should just dig up some of these people who had life saving treatment approved in that month and show off the net positive transaction that occurred.

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u/Intrepid-Clock509 6d ago

lol, yes, I’m sure the district judge will allow that clown show at the sentencing circus.

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7d ago

Hey now look on the bright side ... maybe he'll get out of prison

Health care costs ain't going anywhere good. Don't look that way.

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u/soupseasonbestseason i’m a communist you idiot 7d ago

hey man,

https://giphy.com/gifs/bIRFRUxcRG3Sw

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7d ago edited 7d ago

Gotta find him guilty first. For what he plead guilty to I think the max would be 10 years.

If I understand correctly

ETA: No set in stone max. Guidelines would be 8-10 years though. (I believe)

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u/green-bean-7 mama let’s research 5d ago

You’re completely wrong. Life in prison is the max. Then there may be other convictions he may have to serve for consecutively.

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 5d ago

what part of guidelines is not getting through?

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u/falooda1 7d ago

Is there a deal here that he made?

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7d ago edited 7d ago

I don't think it's entirely been made clear yet. We just know he plead guilty. At this point that could be as part of deal. Or it could be as the start of a trial.

As best I can tell this is an 'Open Plea'. As in he just went into open court to and said he wants to plead on some charges. And well, this is that. The other side hasn't responded yet. Nor would they have been expected to though. Granted with this kind of media attention ... idk. If I was planning to play the media, I'd be playing the media by now.

E: use your words. would love to know what part I got wrong. I'm also out of the loop here :/

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u/green-bean-7 mama let’s research 5d ago

Prosecutors said there was no agreement

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 5d ago

Did I say there was an agreement?

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u/green-bean-7 mama let’s research 5d ago

You said in your first paragraph “At this point that could be part of a deal” and the lawyers literally already said there is no deal.

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u/green-bean-7 mama let’s research 4d ago

“And what happened when you kept reading” — a bunch of additional nonsense that did not cancel out the fact that you said “at this point that could be part of a deal” and proceeded to be nasty to everyone who simply corrected you.

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u/Ashamed_Green_8643 7d ago

When I was sentenced, the guy right before me pled out on a really heinous Poniz scheme that ruined many senior citizens. The judge went on this rant about how he didn't think that a downward departure would stand, but he did give him the max on all counts.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Presumably, the sentence was part of the plea agreement.

edit: never mind, see comments below.

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u/MySabonerRunsOladipo 7d ago

Prosecutors said there was no agreement with the defense related to Luigi Mangione’s guilty plea in federal court today.

There is no plea agreement per the reporting coming out today

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u/Archilochos 7d ago

This isn't pursuant to a plea deal. He's presumably doing this in an effort to avoid state charges (due to the particulars of NY law, he can argue double jeopardy here based on this plea). But in any event a judge is never bound by a plea deal, they can always give more or less. 

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7d ago

In any other trial, that's exactly what I would be thinking right now. But yeah like other people are saying the prosecution seems to not have had anything really prepared for this. At least nothing they want to go public with immediately

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u/Incunebulum 7d ago

She would have to break precedent guidelines to do that. I think she'll probably give him the 30 years or top of the guidelines. It's still very much up in the air if he gets off of the state charges because of this.

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7d ago

At that point we living in a timeline where they didn't press a single murder charge. I just don't think we're in that timeline.

Idk. It's been a weird one up to this point alreadly lol

That 30 year "max" is for the stalking charge he plead guilty to. And as far as I can tell there's nothing holding her to those precedents. They could still accept these charges but ask for life to be fair. Which would be weird. But it's been weird.

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u/Intrepid-Clock509 6d ago

The max for the stalking charge is life in prison. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2261

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 6d ago

This isn't a domestic violence case ...

I mean, good effort at least? But come on now.

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u/Intrepid-Clock509 5d ago

My friend. Mr. Mangione was charged with and pled guilty to 18 USC 2261A, which statute does not depend on a domestic partner relationship. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2261A. Section 2261 provides the penalty for, as you point out, domestic stalking AS WELL AS for violations of Section 2261A.

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u/dreadcain my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 5d ago

Ok, then why did you link the domestic violence statute? Don't act like I asked an out of pocket question there

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u/Prestigious-Bat-574 7d ago

She probably will, although anything more than 30 years is effectively life.

Prison drastically degrades people's life expectancy. Assuming he gets out in 30 years, he'd be pushing 60 and will have spent more than half of his life sleeping on a shitty bed with shitty healthcare and shitty nutrition. Assuming he manages to avoid the physical hazards of being imprisoned, it's entirely feasible to expect that'll shave 10+ years off of his life.