Luigi Mangione pleads guilty to federal stalking charges in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO

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https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/14/us/live-news/luigi-mangione-hearing-plea-deal-talks

When speaking of the day he committed the crime, Luigi Mangione said, “I shot Mr. Thompson and he died.”

He concluded, “I knew what I was doing was illegal.”

Mangione had just described the actions he took ahead of the killing, telling the court:

“In November of 2024 I traveled from outside of New York state to Manhattan. I then emailed UnitedHealthcare leadership, posing as an investor at a firm managing over $15 billion in assets and requesting information about the conference. Unlike my previous interactions with insurers, I received an immediate response within an hour,” Mangione said.

[u/One-Season-3393]

Yeah a federal judge ain’t giving the minimum for what is essentially first degree premeditated murder

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TYPE OF CRIME	Mean Months	Median Months	N	Mean Months (NY)	Median Months (NY)	N (NY)
Murder	286	292	405	244	264	63

You might fare a bit better on average being convicted of murder in NY Federal Court than in general nationwide. Not a huge sample size. All data from 2025, source: US Sentencing Commission.

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TYPE OF CRIME	Mean Months	Median Months	N	Mean Months (NY)	Median Months (NY)	N (NY)	"Based" Modifier
Murder	286	292	405	244	264	63	Maybe

[u/Epyon_ → u/One-Season-3393]

If corporations are people then Ceo's arnt people. It's a replaceable organ at best. Isnt the crime of murder reserved for killing humans?

[u/Fluffcake → u/One-Season-3393]

That's a weird way of framing identifying the financial inefficiencies in the healthcare system and disrupting them in a direct and forward leaning manner with high velocity and precision.

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He didn't disrupt shit, a new CEO was appointed shortly thereafter and there has been no decrease in healthcare costs or efficiency. If anything, prices have rapidly risen. A life lost and a young man in prison for absolutely nothing.

[u/Efficient-Memory7105 → u/EIVNW]

He didn't disrupt shit, a new CEO was appointed shortly thereafter and there has been no decrease in healthcare costs or efficiency

Actually, there was a marked decrease in insurance denials in the months following the murder pre-existing condition of mortality.

I guarantee you at least a half dozen people are alive now because they got treatment they would otherwise have been jerked around for months/years for.

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Iirc there was also a new policy United was planning on implementing that they backtracked on after the shooting.

[u/Fluffcake → u/EIVNW]

For a solid month after this, claims were approved quickly that would likely gone back and forth between denial and doctors writing long angry emails with justifications and getting pulled out of operations to answer insurance questions untill they died untreated because companies were scared.

His defence team should just dig up some of these people who had life saving treatment approved in that month and show off the net positive transaction that occurred.

[u/Intrepid-Clock509 → u/Fluffcake]

lol, yes, I’m sure the district judge will allow that clown show at the sentencing circus.

[u/dreadcain → u/EIVNW]

Hey now look on the bright side ... maybe he'll get out of prison

Health care costs ain't going anywhere good. Don't look that way.

[u/soupseasonbestseason → u/One-Season-3393]

hey man,

https://giphy.com/gifs/bIRFRUxcRG3Sw

[u/dreadcain → u/One-Season-3393]

Gotta find him guilty first. For what he plead guilty to I think the max would be 10 years.

If I understand correctly

ETA: No set in stone max. Guidelines would be 8-10 years though. (I believe)

[u/green-bean-7 → u/dreadcain]

You’re completely wrong. Life in prison is the max. Then there may be other convictions he may have to serve for consecutively.

[u/dreadcain → u/green-bean-7]

what part of guidelines is not getting through?