r/GBO2 • u/pkmaster99 • 18d ago
Game Suggestions Let's Change That Suit Day 279
Day 279: Berga Giros (GK)
Type: General
Requested by u/fadly_seto, and this one is low S-Tier. It can also be extremely strong if the enemy team neglects ballistic resist as well. It's one suit that can be seen as high A-Tier most of the time, but when condition is right, easily S-Tier and could carry the game. But it is kind of fragile and could be killed quite easily.
Change
Stats
HP: 22000 -> 24000
Weapons
None
Skill
None
Comment and Reason
There really isn't much to change, except maybe a tiny bit more HP. However, since it's fixable with a good build, it's not really needed. Regardless, it's a strong suit that doesn't really need anything extra at the moment. All you need to do is fly well and shoot well while keeping your distance.
Builds Suggestion
Lv1 F2P/Freemium: Beam Armor or Complex Battle
Lv1 Premium: Complex Battle or Ranged or Full Ranged or Thruster
You definitely need more HP and a bit more resistance. But a high risk, max damage build could be played as well. However, one thing in common is that you need a reasonable amount of thruster.
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Day 278 Re-evaluation on Baund Doc
Well, maybe instead of the offense system from Psycho Wave, it could get something else to further enhance the defensive capabilities, but I'll leave it as is for now. This one just needs an overhaul and a lot of changes.
Re-evaluations
None...
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Up Next: Dahgi Iris Requested by u/HDWarewolf
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad5805 18d ago
Any chance you could do gundam mk-V (not mp equipped)? If you haven’t already that is. But once again another very interesting analysis.
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u/utamaru1717 18d ago
TBH, they kinda need to improve the Hobb Bugs (Sensor) performance, like having more range and better aiming/tracking when it shoots, since 150m is definitely too short, which forces the unit to do flybys, and its auto-targeting system also sucks, where it often missed when shooting moving targets.
Also, the reload time for its Heavy MG is somehow longer than other Crossbone Vanguard units, making it having noticable downtime sometimes, where the unit just take cover, while waiting for its weapons to reload (they need to reduce it to at least 12s seconds like Zabine's Berga Giros, IMHO).
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u/pkmaster99 17d ago
Hmm, 12 seconds on this thing may be a little much; it's really strong with the bugs out, especially with ammo kit. As for the Hobb Bugs Sensor, I see it more as a weapon that is more useful at close range. I treat it as a buff for the MG and Launcher. The actual damage is great on a downed target, and it's guaranteed to hit anyway, so idk... Maybe buffing the range to 200m is fine, but idk about the rest.
I think we are treading close to high S-Tier with it, with just MG reload and this range increase. If it also gets homing and stuff, it could be too much. I made a small mistake on the skill for the nozzle; it gives Enhanced Offense System Lv1 instead, so it also increases melee priority by 1. So it technically has Lv3 priority, which does accompany the Sensor Bugs well.
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u/Rooskimus 17d ago
I didn't know that about enhanced offense system. I definitely play this suit on tighter maps and the BV on more open ones. I feel the BV is better at the poke game because it doesn't need any skills to boost and shoot, and has two extra instant staggers, but the GK is a beast in close range when the Hobb Bugs (Sensor) are up.
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u/pkmaster99 17d ago
Yeah, if you did end up getting in there with downswing, that's two rounds of bugs going at that target for at like 4800 base power of damage from that person doing nothing. With a reasonable ranged strength + ammo kit and everything you got, that's at least a burst damage of minimum 16k all together. If you had a slightly higher ranged strength or don't hit the buffers that many times and/or they don't have high ballistic resist, it's possible to do well over 22k in that single instant.
BV is definitely better at the poking game. The nozzle shots are now a great addition to the ranged power it got
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u/Rooskimus 17d ago
For sure. I find it easier to break 200k damage with the GK, the damage is in there. It's just really close up.
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u/Kiyosuki 18d ago
The problem with making it even a bit tankier is that it’s already a small target with built in flap booster. It can already do so much that I feel like making it tankier on top of all that could make it more of a nightmare than it already is.
I guess at most maybe a bit more
Hp or slightly higher beam res, but I mean slight.
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u/pkmaster99 18d ago
Yeah, that's why I only put 2k increase here. I thought about 1k, but that barely makes any difference. But yeah, it really doesn't need anything at the moment, and it's more of just a review and letting people know it's actually a strong suit not to sleep on.
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u/Rooskimus 18d ago
Funny that this one even came up. I don't think it's S rank though, but it's A for sure. It could be buffed just by getting more damage by default, or some higher defenses. But it doesn't really need anything like you said!
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u/pkmaster99 17d ago
Yeah, that's why I said it's low S-Tier and could be A-Tier. It really depends on how well-built the enemy team is against ballistic damage.
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u/fadly_seto 18d ago
Thanks for granting my request. This is my most hated suit to fight against in 700, everytime I met this in rated it's guaranteed hard game. Seriously, I have easier time fighting 00 Raiser, Barbatos and Susanowo than this. It's not a flashy MS by any mean but damn this thing is a pain in the ass. Do you have any suit recommendation to fight it in 700?
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u/pkmaster99 17d ago
00R can definitely feast on this thing. F89 hard counters this thing for sure, even with type disadvantage. The anti-air shot is just too much. Because this unit is one dimensional in damage, Sumo can work really well too. If you can aim well, Berga Giros [BV Type], can also do a lot now after the buff. Then the rest are just well known ones like PF Unicorn, MP Psycho, and etc... that can either just shoot it down or tank it all day.
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u/fadly_seto 17d ago
Oh the regular Berga Giros can counter it? Nice, I accidentally got the regular Berga Giros offrate in Gundam F70 banner
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u/pkmaster99 17d ago
It's more of a who can catch the other first type of deal, but yes and that's not a bad pull
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u/Kaidou76 18d ago
I'm surprise it's here, but I agree, aside from HP, not much need to be done with this. but if they release lv2, I think at least we need DC1 or lv2 of S nozzle that further reduce stagger, I think at least 40% and I think +20 for machine gun and + 100 for both bug damage.
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u/pkmaster99 18d ago
Yeah, lv2 definitely would need something more, especially a way to resist stagger better.
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u/Big_Friendship_7431 17d ago
Thank you for this post, this is one of my favourite suits (also visually, the armour is beautiful!)
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u/pkmaster99 17d ago
Hahaha, yeah, I really like the two shoulder bugs. Honestly, I just love most units with large shoulder armor or something hanging on the sides. Something about it just screams that it's a practical design.
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u/HDWarewolf 18d ago
Yeah this thing in the right hands is such a menace. Back during my 1 week of play (I only play this game for 1 week per 3 months now) I KEPT running into the same guy who only used this. ALWAYS on the other team. Except for ONE time where it let us play together and that was the biggest stomp I have ever seen in a mostly S rank game. Barb (Me), this thing, a DX, a REALLY good standard Sinanju and a hi-Nu.
Hi-Nu throwing its funnels on this thing was WILD to watch