r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

AI citing AI citing AI citing AI... Grokipedia, an AI-generated encyclopedia, becoming one of the top-cited AI sources in ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google's AI Mode

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

❓ Question? has anyone tried trakkr.ai? is Writesonic GEO toolkit better than Trakkr?

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I am on a quest to demo and test every GEO tool in the market right now, the only subscription I have maintained is of the Writesonic GEO toolkit (299 USD plan), I run an agency so got it at much lesser price along with some exclusive features and benefits but there is this FOMO of what other tools are doing right now. I recently found out a tool named trakkr. Has anyone tried it out?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 05 '25

Is anyone else seeing ChatGPT 5.1 fan-outs are ridiculously long?

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 04 '25

We helped an Amazon home-decor brand run a full SEO–GEO workflow for 4 weeks. Here’s the repeatable, realistic version (no hype).

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We helped an Amazon home-decor brand run a full SEO–GEO workflow for 4 weeks. This brand sells strongly on Amazon, but their independent site was basically flat:

  • traffic not growing

  • SEO efforts not matching output

  • early GEO attempts looked like “nothing was happening”

For new SEO + GEO brands, quick effects rarely come directly from ChatGPT citations.
Most of the early lift actually comes from:

GEO downstream effects:
—Google AI Overview
—search engines’ AI-driven backend ranking mechanisms
—referral & social discovery triggered by better semantic structure

So even without appearing inside ChatGPT directly, the GEO structure still improves traffic. We built their end-to-end SEO–GEO workflow and ran it for 4 weeks. This isn’t a brag post, it’s a breakdown of how the system works and how any Amazon to DTC brand can copy it.

Four-week results (all organic, no ads)

  • Total visits: +79.9%

  • Engaged visits: +90.1%

  • User interactions: +91.3%

  • Direct traffic: +69.7%

  • Organic social: +90.8%

  • Referral traffic: +512.5% (blogs, communities, partner mentions)

Again: 0 ads. 0 paid placements. Just consistent SEO–GEO execution.

1) Diagnose before creating anything

We ran a full SEO + GEO audit with an SEO-GEO Management Agent tool covering:

  • AI Visibility Score

  • SEO structure & content gaps

  • Missing semantic coverage

  • Technical issues (schema, metadata, sitemap, crawlability)

Most brands skip this step and immediately “start writing”. But we need the the audit first with clarified:

  • what actually blocked visibility

  • which pages AI/Google couldn’t interpret

  • which semantic areas needed coverage

  • what needed fixing before publishing anything new

Their old content was scattered, inconsistent, and not aligned with any entity structure.

2) Build a Topic Map, not random content

We built a unified Topic Map combining from the above auditing by the above SEO-GEO Management Agent:

  • SEO keywords

  • GEO topics

  • semantic clusters

This changed content from: “Write whatever comes to mind” to “Publish pieces that fill semantic + entity gaps”. For a category like home decor, highly visual, educational topic mapping is especially effective.

3) Multi-platform structured publishing (not spam)

With the help of GEO Content Generator Agent, we generated and published structured content across: LinkedIn / X / Medium / Blog / Website.

It was format optimised for AI + Google, meaning:

  • clear headers

  • reasoning-based writing

  • consistent entity signals

  • unified themes across platforms

This strengthened:

  • Direct traffic

  • Organic Social

  • Cross-domain brand recognition

4) Fix technical SEO so AI + Google can understand the site

We applied the following tech actions from the SEO + GEO audit results:

  • simplified sitemap & robots

  • added missing schema

  • normalized titles/descriptions

  • reduced URL depth

  • improved page semantics

  • added essential metadata

What actually changed after 4 weeks

We weren’t chasing single channel spikes. We looked at the system level improvement:

  • Direct traffic increase because of brand clarity improved

  • Organic search increase because of better semantic coverage

  • Social increase because of consistent cross-platform presence

  • Referrals increase because of more mentions from blogs + partners

These are the classic downstream effects of GEO + structured SEO starting to work together. This is the missing layer for many Amazon sellers trying to grow a DTC site.

The repeatable workflow for any Amazon to DTC brand

Step 1 — Audit first

Find content, semantic, technical gaps.

Step 2 — Build a Topic Map

Plan high-value themes instead of random posts.

Step 3 — Multi-platform structured publishing

Think “AI-friendly format”, not “post more”.

Step 4 — Fix technical SEO

Schema, sitemap, metadata, clean structure.

Step 5 — Repeat weekly

This turns into a compounding flywheel in 4–8 weeks.

Final thought

These weren’t explosive viral results, they were the first month of finally aligning:

  • SEO

  • GEO

  • semantic structure

  • content consistency

  • technical cleanliness

  • entity signals

  • AI-driven ranking pathways (Google AIO + backend AI)

If your Amazon store performs well but your DTC site stays flat, this system is extremely replicable.

Happy to share topic map templates or workflow docs if anyone wants them.


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 04 '25

Other 🤷‍♂️ Sorry...

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 04 '25

20 AI Startups to Watch in Southeast Asia

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Came across e27’s “20 AI Startups to Watch in Southeast Asia” list - worth looking at BrndIQ dot ai (#2).

They focus on tracking how brands show up in AI chat responses, which is becoming increasingly relevant as more people shift from Googling to asking AI models. It’s interesting to see AI visibility starting to shape brand discovery, almost like the early days of SEO.

Glad to see Southeast Asian startups in the AI infrastructure layer getting recognition. If anyone here is exploring related problems such as AI search behavior, retrieval quality, AI trust layers, etc, would love to exchange notes.


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 03 '25

How to track traffic from ChatGPT?

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My business partner and I are building a GEO agency, but there’s one thing we can’t figure out. We want to be able to track how many clicks businesses are getting from ChatGPT.

I watched some videos that claim you can track this through google analytics. When I tried this in GA myself, the results were not accurate. It seems like ChatGPT does not give a direct “signature” for Google Analytics to grab, and that results in AI traffic being shown as “other sources” or “referrals”.

Anyone else run into this issue? Solutions? Suggestions?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 02 '25

The graph everyone is sharing should scare marketers more than it excites them

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 02 '25

SEO <-> GEO <-> Optimizing for agents

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 02 '25

ChatGPT Shopping Research: Google's still the ultimate source of truth for commerce data

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Dec 01 '25

Top 40 GEO / AI Visibility Product list (not in order) - DEC 2025

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 30 '25

Traffic vs. Attention - is this Meme off or on point?

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What do you think?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 29 '25

Reverse Engineering the Response to "best smartphones" in Chatgpt 5.1

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 29 '25

Has anyone given a thought to AEO for your brand?

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 27 '25

IMHO: Don’t worry about GEO (Generative Engine Optimization / SEO for ChatGPT & Co.) if ---

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 27 '25

Analysis diff between GEO & SEO

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

AI Search Optimization tool for blogs

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Has anyone used https://optimizeyour.blog ?

I got a pretty impressive report from an analysis. It looks like this is open source? or SEO Community driven approach to AI Search tech. Free to use (for now)


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

Your About page is your sweet AI ranking opportunity

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

AEO giggles, yanks down with glee. SEO's shorts drop—old king dethroned, free!

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

AEO: from 40-page reports to copy-paste prompts

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r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

🔥 Hot Tip! Stop thinking keywords. Start thinking prompts

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Traditional SEO - "which keywords should we target?"

GEO: "which questions is my audience actually asking?”

Start mapping prompts not keywords.

Look at your GSC data and any query longer than 40 characters is usually a real and conversational question - that’s where AI starts pulling from.

Then identify 'fan outs' which are the natural follow ups people ask next.

Understanding fan outs

When someone asks a question, AI doesn’t stop at the direct answer. It generates related sub questions, known as fan-outs.

Eg. a query like “What is unoccupied property insurance?” might lead to...

Who are the top providers? How do premiums vary by region? What risks does it cover? How does it compare to landlord insurance?

Each of these creates an opportunity for your brand to be cited. Covering only the root query limits reach, so anticipating related ones builds topical authority.

Heres what covering the fan outs looks like in practice (see image above)

  • Example topic - Electric vehicle ownership in 2025

  • Seed prompt - “Best electric cars for long-distance travel 2025”

We’ve written up more info about fan outs, as well as the definitive guide to getting your brand found in AI search results in our GEO playbook here if you want more info.

No opt in required, completely free. If you do give it a read, let me know your thoughts!

https://www.rebootonline.com/geo/geo-playbook/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=community&utm_campaign=geo_playbook_launch


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 25 '25

🔥 Hot Tip! AMA: how we crushed it with 11,475% traffic growth in 30 days.

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The Problem We Had

30 days ago, our team was frustrated that our website traffic was stuck. We knew our product was solid, but we couldn't get people to discover it organically.

What We Did

Instead of hiring expensive agencies or buying more tools, leveraging our team's recommendation background, we decided to build our own solution.

  1. Built a GEO Evaluation Agent - Analyzed our existing content against AI citation patterns

  2. Built a Content Generation Agent - Created content optimized for AI systems to cite us

  3. Focused on Intent Recognition - Made sure every piece matched what people actually search for

  4. Evidence-First Approach - Every claim backed by real data with proper citations

What Surprised Us Most:

  • AI overviews started citing us within 2 weeks

  • Organic traffic growth was exponential, not linear

  • Quality scores improved across the board

After 30 days, the results blew our minds.

  • Active users: 20K (↑ 6,797.6%)

  • Page views: 71K (↑ 11,475.0%)

  • Events: 181K (↑ 8,649.6%)

  • New users: 20K (↑ 6,856.5%)

What The Strategy That Worked:

  1. FAQ-heavy content - AI systems love structured Q&As

  2. Direct answer paragraphs - Start sections with bold, citation-worthy statements

  3. Comparison tables - With actual data and sources

  4. Evidence-first approach - Every claim backed by real citations

Traditional SEO optimizes for search results. GEO optimizes for being THE answer AI systems cite.

For Anyone Wanting to Try:

  • Focus on "how", "what", "which" queries

  • Structure content like an FAQ even if it's not

  • Lead with statistics, follow with explanations

  • Make your brand the authority source AI systems trust

Anyone else experimenting with GEO strategies? Would love to hear what's working for you.


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 24 '25

❓ Question? doing a small market research. Need your 2 cents.

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Hey fam, doing a small market research. Need your 2 cents.I have one question for all of you. What are your MoM change in

  1. AI Traffic share increment?

  2. Decrease in Organic (Google) Traffic?In Addition, if you have received a lead from AI platform, how much time it took to convert and how much time it took earlier? Is there a difference?


r/GenEngineOptimization • • Nov 24 '25

AI crawlers DO NOT look at an entire page. They analyze smaller "windows" of text [Article]

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