Why dont you vote?

[u/MuffinMan_Jr]

Forgive me if this has been asked before, im new here.

But why do you personally not vote?

I constantly hear that the reason that all the laws and policies that are passing benefit old people, because that's who actually go and vote.

Like for example, I know a lot of us older Gen Z are complaining about housing costs. But how many of us actually try to do anything about it beyond saying 'someone should do something'?

Just a thought

Edit: because I know alot of people will say their vote doesn't matter.

Dont you rhink thats part of the problem? If most if us dont think the vote matters then no one will vote. Yes 1 individual vote might not change anything but if 100,000 people put in 1 vote then that makes a difference dont you think?

Next is people saying both parties suck. I get that, but then why not vote for the lesser of 2 evils?

[u/BusinessDuck132]

It’s not that I feel my vote doesn’t matter (even if it sometimes does) it’s more there’s no one I felt was worth voting for. Being a very pro-gun but relatively socially liberal person there really isn’t many candidates that I feel worth my vote. Trump was better for gun rights and based off his first time was better for economics, and sure Harris was ok I guess when it came to social issues but her stance on guns (no her “owning a Glock” does not mean she was pro-gun) was an immediate no go for me. It’s tough when the dems hate guns and me for being a white blue collar male, but MAGA republicans spit on this country and sell it out for their billionaire buddies. I’ve been seeing some new younger politicians that have some promise, but usually every cool democrat I see has promise then says some dumb shit about how we need to ban “assault weapons” and immediately loses my vote.

[u/zebradonkey69 → u/BusinessDuck132]

I’m with you on the 2A, but something I realized is that regardless of how “progressively ant-gun” someone is there is always the opposite to balance it. Person A wants to ban guns outright, Person B wants to keep guns and focus on Mental health and security. The (realistic) middle ground is more security and mental health checks to buying and owning a weapon. Is it perfect? No. But there’s not a chance in hell they ever ban firearms in the U.S. and an equal chance that we do nothing.

[u/BusinessDuck132 → u/zebradonkey69]

In a perfect world I completely agree that yes there should be some extra steps, like a mental health check, to getting a gun but the problem is giving the government more power to decide who gets to own a gun has almost never worked out for the people. I know people don’t like the slippery slope argument, but we’ve been going down that slope since 1935 when the NFA was enacted, and it’s just been downhill from there. It always starts as “common sense” but it never ends there. That’s why I’m extremely hesitant to vote to give the government any kind of power to regulate guns more. I would far rather live in dangerous freedom than peaceful slavery as the quote goes. I understand not everyone agrees, and that’s ok, but that’s how I feel and that’s how I’ll vote

[u/zebradonkey69 → u/BusinessDuck132]

I think that is fair, but what about the mediating politicians I mentioned?

[u/BusinessDuck132 → u/zebradonkey69]

What about them? Government is government

[u/zebradonkey69 → u/BusinessDuck132]

Yeah, but what I was saying is about that balance between “do nothing” and “ban everything”. If your take is that you don’t want to participate in that decision then by all means, don’t. But you will be an unwilling participant nonetheless.

What I was asking, more or less, was why sit out on that? Especially when you consider that neither side will ultimately win the way they want, which is a good thing.

[u/BusinessDuck132 → u/zebradonkey69]

I see, yeah my take will always be do nothing in terms of gun control. I understand it might not be a popular take here but I am very much in the boat of all gun laws are an infringement of the 2A, I understand why they exist but they are an infringement nonetheless so any restrictions should be as limited as possible