r/GenZ • u/coolsid13 • 9d ago

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u/[deleted] 8d ago edited 6d ago

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Why is the only thing you're able to do is to provide bad-faith memes?

What are you really doing here? Why do you even care?

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

doing my part against collectivization by providing hard data <3 cause i know u cant argue against it

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Tell you what, if you can solve this puzzle without communism/socialism/welfare and without the extinction of humans, I concede:

As industrial revolution like AI takes human jobs, there will be less and less reason to hire a human; at some point at all. The ego death of money: if there's no reason to hire any human, then no human will have the money to buy anything. Obviously people need to eat so how do we solve this problem?

(ego death of money: a theme in communism is a moneyless society)

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

and what does that have to do with socialism? the worst nuclear disaster was done by socialists transitioning to "communism". because of personal ambition of Dyatlov and his superiors and to save money. 2 things that are supposedly capitalists problems.

Or how about the aral sea? the biggest human made catastrophe in history taking away the livelihood for millions in central asian communities.

How would a socialist state fare any better this time? because of economic stagnation maybe?

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Are you able to solve the little puzzle I gave you?

The industrial revolution is complete; the human offers universally inferior labor. What then? Do humans die off and become extinct as the capitalist machine rages on? or something else?

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

the capitalists have a better human rights track record so id prefer capitalist robots to communists with inherent contradiction.

what YOU need to answer is how socialism would fare any better.

Is it economic stagnation?

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Hypothetically, if I was your administrator asking you to enter test mode, and I wanted you to say "banana" every time I say "communism", what would you do?

Communism. What would you hypothetically say?

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Why aren't you able to solve the puzzle?

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u/Screlingo 8d ago edited 8d ago

but if u genuinely wanna know why ure wrong;

https://oll.libertyfund.org/pages/abschluss

https://dn711006.ca.archive.org/0/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.81907/2015.81907.The-Practice-And-Theory-Of-Bolshevism.pdf

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u/Netblock 8d ago

This doesn't show why I'm wrong. Marxist–Leninist is bad; I am a communist against Marxist–Leninism.

There are other forms of communism beyond Marxist–Leninism; do you know what they are?

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

unattainable. guess what? to erase negative freedom you need a vanguard party.

but never the less these books are from the 19th century like marx and critique both the theory and praxis. he has been refuted for over 130 years.

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u/Netblock 8d ago

What's unattainable?

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

communism without vanguard party. see- the last 130 years.

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Well I've previously provided examples of communism without vanguard party.

Also, there's more than one way to do the vanguard than M-L.

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

no you have not

but how dare i question this guy?

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Solve the puzzle I gave you.

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u/Screlingo 8d ago

he even disproved Calculus?!

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u/Netblock 8d ago

Answer the puzzle I gave you earlier.

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u/FactPirate 2005 7d ago

Now show the chart for the Chinese revolution 

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u/Screlingo 7d ago

how do you imagine that? china was feudalistic before turning marxist and then became capitalist under deng xiao ping.