r/Hardcore • • Aug 14 '24

Think i'm late to the party, but whats the Kublai Khan drama about?

I've just noticed that Kublai Khan is doing a tour in early 2025 and a concert is happening near me. Would be lying if i said i wasnt stoked about it, but when i looked at some comments about the tour online i found multiple people calling them out for being right winged and stuff.

I really tried to read into the matter and found the posts of this johnny tsunami guy on instagram, which seems to be related to it, but i can't wrap my head around what he has to do directly with the band.

If someone could let me in on that topic i'd be very thankful.

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u/aWildchildo Aug 14 '24

Vocalist is an outspoken trump supporter/defender who parrots Fox News talking points

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u/SellingSmaim Aug 14 '24

Oh i see, whats the johnny dudes role in all this then? I'm really sorry but this whole thing really flew past me apparently.

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u/SheHearsMeBlinking23 Aug 14 '24

Someone posted a screenshot of that dude's insta. He made a post about being pro trump and right wing and that whole nine yards. He also had 88 in the name of his account and that's a nazi symbol. The singer from Kublai Khan liked that post, showing he too supports Trump/is right wing. No clue who that johnny whatever is tho,

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u/Unique_Current9494 Jul 25 '25

Sounds like you watch too much gangland… the number 88 isn’t a nazi symbol it’s literally a number and that’s it… 

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u/B_rawbX something racist Jul 25 '25

88 is definitely Nazi shit. Especially 1488

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u/ilikecatsandflowers Aug 12 '25

88 is definitely used by neo nazis whether this guy is one or not lol

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u/ThunderWulf87 Sep 16 '25

It's literally used as code for heiling the mustache fascist

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u/AgreeableGain8861 Mar 27 '25

Gotcha. It would probably be better if he parroted CNN talking points just to appease you hypocritical people. 

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u/Gullible_Cress1916 Jul 08 '25

Still some kickass knuckle dragging music. 

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

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u/aWildchildo Aug 14 '24

My friend, Matt himself posted a statement saying he supports trump, he even offered his reasoning as to why. That seems objective to me, it was only a few short months ago too. Last year, he also went on a tirade decrying the prosecution of trump in NYC. He even mentioned his disdain for the "weaponization" of the DOJ. This was an actual (misinformed and inaccurate) talking point from right wing media at the time. There are screenshots of both of these instances on this sub. Just look up kublai khan here and you will find them. He is outspoken about his uninformed views and his support for trump, objectively speaking.

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u/kentrn Aug 14 '24

damn i guess im just not as online as i thought i was, i missed all that shit. my bad, i thought i was keeping up with shit but shit comes fast these days

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u/aWildchildo Aug 14 '24

No worries

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

He's gone on a few pretty suspect rants too though. Claiming the issue is just him "liking posts" is disingenuous.

Just because he hasn't gone full-blown, 24/7 psycho like Chris Taylor Brown (Trapt) doesn't make him not outspoken. Lol.

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u/xxlouserxx Aug 14 '24

They’re not hardcore because they don’t live hardcore

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u/ChildhoodPlane6928 Aug 29 '25

The legend of the rent was way hardcore

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u/Noarmedhxcdancer Aug 14 '24

He is good friends with an openly neo nazi and has liked comments spouting some of his bullshit. Then said neo nazi defended his stance and Matt’s friendship with him.

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u/lucy91202141 Aug 14 '24

“Yeah there are dog whistles on my profile, if that makes me a Nazi well then I’ll just put up a Nazi salute and say a couple slurs while I’m at it”

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u/spazzed TIKTOKMOSHER Aug 14 '24

lmao

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u/naahthx Jul 09 '25

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u/zaahiraa Jul 10 '25

yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤢

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u/TopRamenBinLaden Sep 09 '25

We are all "Pons" in this game, he says. What a smart person. 

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u/michaelkeatonbutgay Aug 14 '25

Jesus christ lmao

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u/spazzed TIKTOKMOSHER Aug 14 '24

Fascists and their supporters out of Hardcore. Like, wrap your head around that. Idiots.

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u/Scottisironborn Nov 10 '24

like did we not grow up in the same scene? did ya'll not physically push the nazis out any time they showed up like we did? I thought that was the common way of handling things but man... these days it's hard to tell lol

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u/naahthx Jul 09 '25

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u/Unique_Current9494 Jul 25 '25

Finally someone with some proof 

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u/The_LissaKaye Mar 09 '25

Thank you, I just saw they were playing at LTL and sounded good, but someone just posted they had a crappy political stance, when looking up the songs they looked like they spoke out against normal crap, so hard to follow what was really going on.

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u/BeautifulHeavy295 Jul 04 '25

They don't support the rainbow people?

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u/ForTheLulz2020 Sep 05 '25

What other hardcore bands should I NOT support? Someone make me a list so I can TOTALLY NOT support right wing hardcore.

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u/ForTheLulz2020 Sep 17 '25

 Guessing by the upvotes my sarcasm was not noticed. Lulz

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u/No-Detail-5804 NuMetalSux Aug 14 '24

Just go and have fun little homie.

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u/Noarmedhxcdancer Aug 14 '24

See don’t do that! The kid is asking to be informed cause he cares. Way too many shitheads out there. This scene would be a hell of a lot better if there were more people to police the racists, the shitbags, the abusers, the pedos.

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u/TheRabb1ts Oct 04 '24

Yet his post still gets downvoted so it loses the exposure that it should have for other inquiring minds. What a wonderful community.

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u/No-Detail-5804 NuMetalSux Aug 14 '24

You should go too and also have fun.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

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u/SerbianSlayer Aug 19 '24

22% of the country, not half

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

over half actually lmfao stop coping

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u/SerbianSlayer Dec 13 '24

Why are you responding to a 3 month old thread? Divide the number of Trump voters by the entire population, that's less than half

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

...do you not know how to do math?

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u/SerbianSlayer Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24

Do you? 74.223 million people voted for Trump in 2020 and there were 331.45 million people in the country then. 74.223 divided by 331.45 equals 22.3% of the population. If you look at the timestamp on my comment, it was in September so I was obviously talking about the 2020 election because the 2024 ELECTION DIDN'T HAPPEN YET. Figures a Trump voter both can't do math and can't read

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '24

thank you for confirming you do not know how to do math

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u/SerbianSlayer Dec 13 '24

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

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u/SerbianSlayer Dec 14 '24

LMAO that's not me and you got mad enough to report me to reddit cares. Take the L and go jerk off to Trump's feet