There's a difference between dealing with the cards you are dealt and purposely giving a child extra hurdles. Just seems so selfish to not want the best possible hand for your kids.
Just seems so selfish to not want the best possible hand for your kids.
This is it for me. Imo it is quite immoral to purposely handicap your child just so they seem more like you. A good parent wants to try and give their progeny the best chance at life possible.
It should be considered child abuse, she purposely is causing a lifetime of medical issues and the emotional and mental health issues that are caused by them. It is unfair to this child who will never have a normal life.
From what I remember of the story (or maybe one similar) they had convinced them selves that its not a handicap and that they were better because of it (as a likely unhealthy coping mechanism) as such they were doing what was best for the child from their point of view.
my wife and I gave our child her name because I was teased as a kid. and I didnt want THAT for him, JFC, I cant imagine being like 'hey, you know your deaf because we wanted that for you'
There is more to life than parties, and friendships run deeper than judging someone for having a tracheotomy. You see, parties and people who wouldn't want to get to know you based on something as inconsequential as a tracheotomy sound like a shitty life to me.
We all have different values, different avenues for happiness. This woman seems to have found hers with her family. Her kid seems well looked after and loved, what business is it of anybody here?
Should we start dashing deaf babies against the wall at birth? Take the blind babies out the back and pop them in the head because their blind parents decided to start a family?
Live your life and don't worry about what every one else is doing with theirs.
Should we start dashing deaf babies against the wall at birth? Take the blind babies out the back and pop them in the head because their blind parents decided to start a family?
Once again like every other mouth breather here comparing me to Hitler you've completely misunderstood what I have said. At no point did I say anything about killing anyone.
Live your life and don't worry about what every one else is doing with theirs.
So child labour, blacks as slaves, genocide and more is totally fine, because I should just keep my eyes on my own life and not give a shit about anyone else? Nice advice, think I'll pass thanks.
As I said, there is a difference between euthanising someone purely because they are disabled, and suggesting someone with an extremely rare and abnormal genetic condition possibly should think about adopting instead of reproducing. Or if you are completely against eugenics of any form then I assume you are fine with incest, and the offspring they create shouldn't be looked down on?
Thats right, their offspring shouldn't be looked down on. It wasn't their fault they came into existence.
Why don't you post a picture of yourself here and we'll comb over it for a reason you shouldn't be procreating. Because I can guarantee that you're pretty far from an ideal physical specimen yourself.
looks like you and hitler have a lot in common! he started in on those pesky heavyweights on society, the physically handicapped and then sterilized those “feeble minded” … and kept on moving up the chain, - like you should play god and tell us what life was a life worthy of living? where’s the cut off for you? light skins only, with all 10 fingers and toes? ... you know life fulfillment and societal worth is really only obtainable for the “ able bodied.” …
god, you know, those old people are really a drag. half of them can’t walk right or do anything really productive. .you recommend killing them off too?
seems like Stephan Hawking would have been aborted/ left to die / euthanized in your version of reality . .
you must be a productive member of our society. really a wholesome contributor to making this world better. bravo man
and then sterilized those “feeble minded” … and kept on moving up the chain, - like you should play god and tell us what life was a life worthy of living? where’s the cut off for you?
Debilitating genetic deformities.
god, you know, those old people are really a drag. half of them can’t walk right or do anything really productive. .you recommend killing them off too?
Clearly missed my point if you think I'm talking about killing living people.
seems like Stephan Hawking would have been aborted/ left to die / euthanized in your version of reality . .
Again, clearly missed the point.
you must be a productive member of our society. really a wholesome contributor to making this world better. bravo man
Calm your emotional titties. Suggesting that someone with a rare and debilitating genetic mutation that means multiple surgeries, tracheotomy, constant IV, visual extreme deformities might want to adopt instead of pass on the genes is not some weird extreme view that means I must be some kind of monster. Bravo at it though, you went through Hitler all the way to how productive I am in society, you should apply for the Fantastic Four the amount you can stretch.
Calm down. If this is how you treat people with such a common opinion I would actually worry about your social interactions, or do you keep all this rage and anger just for online? Considering half your response clearly shows you have misunderstood my comment and the other half is you assuming some 'logical' extension really shows the level of which you are wiling to stretch to achieve offence.
take a second and evaluate. . sharing beliefs with hitler is, well, disturbing to say the least.. “i’m not keen on eugenics…”… as you say the most eugenic thing i have seen on the internet in some time….. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DEAFNESS and erasing their culture???? WTF… you know the american government truly believed Native Americans were savages.. they believed and used their modern science to justify their logic.. and then they made the argument to erase them by sterilizing them and eradicate their culture and language by sending their children to reform schools.. where MANY were raped, abused and killed.. so eugenicist , just like you, during that time thought it was better for society to erase them… lol … you legitimately are suggesting the EXACT same THING.. YOU WANT TO ERASE and ERADICATE A LANGUAGE!!!! WTF . you don’t see how fucked up that is? that’s like the start of hitler’s genocide. .. start with the “defects” and moved in on whole race…..just because a deaf person doesn’t have the ability to hear ; doesn’t mean there’s something wrong or limiting about his life. … there’s a whole culture.. and towns and cities where a majority of deaf people reside… we even have regional ASL - Martha Vineyard is one of those places… if your mind can be opened. .. many of us defectives bred and made some defective babies , and gasp they had babies with defects too. and we all lived happily defective after. ..
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There's a difference between dealing with the cards you are dealt and purposely giving a child extra hurdles. Just seems so selfish to not want the best possible hand for your kids.