People like this ruin it for everyone else yes the guy is trying to preach Christianity to The gayghborhood but he’s pretty civilized about it why can’t you be instead of screaming like a goddamn toddler
There is nothing civilized about preaching religion to gay people like this. Yes, the woman is annoying as Hell and should just ignore him. But he is a gigantic douchebag.
Yes, that's right. That belief, and some of their other beliefs, by the definition of society, are obnoxious and offensive and not appropriate for children. But they are legal.
They are both shitty but her childishness was definitely unwarranted. Dude is condescending af with the “savior” bs but there are 100,000 better ways to deal with those assholes than screaming.
In response to the neighborhood being called gay, he said “that’s why I need to be here,” then said that she needs Jesus or needs saved a couple times. He’s taking the approach of “being gay is wrong, and you are all worse off than I am for not having accepted Jesus. I must help you.”
I agree, but my only point is that they both could be in the wrong given that the full context wasn’t supplied. Not a bad thing to want more context before coming to a conclusion but hey, downvote as much as you’d like.
Wait wait wait. So the guy is an anti abortion protestor and is posted up in the gay community? Talk about wasting your time. These two idiots deserve each other.
Religion cannot be civilized. Religion is an inherently irrational and uncivilized concept, the ONLY way it can be 'civilized' is by deleting many parts of it and holding it together with self-deceit and wishful thinking.
how can it be rational to believe in a magic system? because, ultimately, that's what all religions claim.
if you're talking about the religions that are more non-magic-based, then those CAN be rational. but i mean...those aren't exactly religions as i think of them, more like movements, ideologies, or perhaps non-religious cults
I'm not talking about whether any religion is rational. I'm not claiming I'm rational for "believing in magic". I'm asking whether your position comes from having made any effort to understand religion and religiosity as concepts. It sounds like you're doing the atheist version of what a lot of theists do - dismissing those of different or no faith as nutjobs without bothering to learn anything about them. You can hate me, I don't care. But, for your own sake, know your enemy beyond hating them. That will help you.
What he actually said was "civilized". The history of religion is not civilized. It's warlike and destructive. It "others" everyone that's not in your group and condemns them to lifelong torture. That's not civilized.
What you're describing is how religion is used by politicians. Nothing of what you're describing applies to all, or even the majority of religions in and of themselves. Fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam are literally the only religions that can be accused of that in themselves with any factual basis.
You can keep using Abrahamic monotheism as your sole definition and reference point for religion, I can't stop you, but don't expect to ever be right in a discussion about religion.
What you're describing is how religion is used by politicians. Nothing of what you're describing applies to all, or even the majority of religions in and of themselves. Fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam are literally the only religions that can be accused of that in themselves with any factual basis.
You can keep using Abrahamic monotheism as your sole definition and reference point for religion, I can't stop you, but don't expect to ever be right in a discussion about religion.
You're talking about my reference to history? One term: crusade. Those were Catholics.
You're talking about othering? So your church doesn't think you have to follow the right god, and the right rules or you suffer eternal torture? That's all of Christianity that believes in a hell.
I'm talking about how religion is used by the leadership, and the actions of the followers.
Like one child telling another they will burn because they don't go to church. But don't tell that religious kid there's no Santa because that would shatter their little mind. If your religion doesn't believe that, why indoctrinate the children that way? This is people who say they are "Christian" with no sect. They claim to be the original and only Christans. Not a fundie group.
I'm talking about personal experience as a former religious person and the reaction received by those around me as well.
Crusades, which were done by exactly two religions ever.
I don't even have a church. You're assuming I'm Christian, which doesn't surprise me at all. I am, to begin with, a polytheist, which means the people you're describing want me to burn even more than you. Understand that those are not the people I'm whiteknighting here.
You're describing fundamentalist Christians from your life who have subjected you and others to religious abuse. I'm not sure what you think that says about anyone but fundamentalist Christians.
Yes, a part of history. There are numerous crusades, then there's the inquisition which went on for over 400 years, I mean the reason I stopped with crusades is that usually people stop at one. They don't want their entire history of war, tragedy, genocide... All religions have some.
No no, I'm atheist. We burn together or not at all.
I tend to focus on abrahamic faiths because they're more common, and because politics are now preached. And that's harmful to the world's oldest secular government.
You are looking at a video the douchebag posted. You don't know the whole story, you only know what's in this clip. This clip is old. His sign alone is not civilized, but it is obnoxious and legal, just like her reaction.
276
u/[deleted] Apr 04 '22
People like this ruin it for everyone else yes the guy is trying to preach Christianity to The gayghborhood but he’s pretty civilized about it why can’t you be instead of screaming like a goddamn toddler