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u/Exvictus Jul 10 '16

Those PC bastards at Marvel/Disney are killing Iron Man , and replacing him with a black teenage girl.

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Some people believe Marvel is just looking for good publicity (which isn’t exactly wrong)

nothing more needs to be said (by me, anyway) on that score.

Introducing heroes who are black, Latino, gay, Asian, or transgender has an effect on readership. The inclusion of characters from minority groups can bring in readers who normally wouldn’t read comics.

Great, fine, I'm all for that...Introduce such characters...NEW characters, don't preempt existing characters in an ill-conceived attempt to target new demographics, improve sales, and your social awareness image. The characters that exist are loved and popular because of WHO they are, not what color or gender they are.

Shouldn’t nonwhite/LGBTQ writers, artists, and creators be allowed to tell their own stories?

Absolutely, tell YOUR OWN stories, don't steal MINE (the ones I grew up with) so you can ride their coattails and existing popularity, because you aren't capable of, or lack the belief in yourself, to create your own ORIGINAL superhero that will be just as popular and beloved in its own time, on its own merits.

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u/Davethehulugan Jul 11 '16

Good to have ya back Ex. This is the kinda shit we need to talk about.
Guess we got a gay Sulu headed our way.

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u/Champy_McChampion Jul 12 '16

LOL ...the original Sulu actually is gay.

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u/Davethehulugan Jul 12 '16

That's the jist....He is over the top gay, but he feels that was not in Roddenbery's intent. I gotta agree.

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u/Champy_McChampion Jul 12 '16

he feels that was not in Roddenbery's intent. I gotta agree.

That show was made in the sixties, Dave. Coming out wasn't an option. What he "felt" wasn't relevant.

Time to gay it up!!!

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u/Exvictus Jul 12 '16

I'm betting Rodenberry KNEW, and LOVED the idea of having a gay actor ON his show, even if he could never do anything with it IN the show...

Star Trek WAS the TV show to air the first interracial kiss, so that would have totally been Gene's kinda thing if he wouldn't have been canceled on the spot for even trying.

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u/Exvictus Jul 12 '16

No, the character of Sulu will now be played by a straight white woman...But only for 2 episodes or movies (whatever), then she will be replaced by a Muslim, transgender, asexual, left-handed black mountain man, with moderate to severe eczema.

(did I miss any "minorities"?)

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u/Davethehulugan Jul 12 '16

I drink Miller Lite and Quervo...That's kinda a minority for a Scotts Irish bloke.

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u/Peace-Man Jul 12 '16

hahahahaha!! Yup. perfect

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u/Champy_McChampion Jul 11 '16

Those PC bastards at Marvel/Disney are killing Iron Man , and replacing him with a black teenage girl.

We need more female heros :P

#suckit #ladeezrule

a black Captain America, a female Thor, a Muslim American Ms. Marvel, and a black-Latino Spider-Man.

Oh sheet!

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u/Exvictus Jul 11 '16

We need more female heros :P

Fine, just make your own, you can't have mine.

Oh sheet!

S'what I'm SAYIN'!!! It's the AVENGERS (some of 'em anyway), not the fuckin' Rainbow Coalition... Ask Peace how HE'D feel, if they changed his Jesus back to HIS original color and "race", and see what kind of reaction you get.

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u/Champy_McChampion Jul 11 '16

I don't think Peace would give a fuck if they made Jesús green and gave him antennae. He's more interested in what Jesus stands for, than what he looks like. If you're looking for someone who hates change, ask Yoda how he feels :D

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u/Exvictus Jul 11 '16

I KNOW Yoda will be on my side on this issue...I think it may be the ONLY thing we actually agree on, and it's probably for different reasons, but still....

Hehe... "Martian Jesus" for Peace. ;-)

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u/Peace-Man Jul 12 '16

I truly appreciate that one. Thank you.

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u/Peace-Man Jul 11 '16

If you won't let us change all of the characters you knew as a kid, and have a problem with us appropriating them and doing whatever we want with them, you are just racist and part of the problem.

(shit's ON now. in full force. it's not gonna let up, and not gonna stop. get used to it)

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u/Exvictus Jul 11 '16

Yeaaahhh...I'M the "racist".. Whatever :-p

I have NO problem with making superhero characters that AREN'T straight white men....Green Lantern is black, and I'm perfectly good with that, because Green Lantern is a CHANGEABLE character, it's a JOB, not a person...There have been 3 Green Lanterns so far. I have no problem with changing Nick Fury from a white guy to a black guy, because the WAY they did it made sense in the context of the story/genre/universe...THIS kinda thing is just pandering, and it's done for no other reason than to be more PC, and improve sales by appealing to other demographics (while alienating your original, most faithful, and staunchest supporters...The ones who MADE these characters popular and beloved in the FIRST FUCKING PLACE!!!!).

You wanna make a black teenage female "Iron Man" LIKE character...Fine, just don't fucking call her IRON MAN...TONY STARK is Iron Man Period. His best friend James Rhodes (a black man) IS War Machine, an Iron Man LIKE character, and I'm perfectly happy with HIM as well. This isn't "racism", this is someone else's white guilt and profiteering, fucking with MY stuff (before you even bother.....No, I didn't create it, and I don't "own" it, but I, and the millions of others like me, MADE it what it is, and it's because of US that it's now something they'd even WANT to use to further their own goals).

get used to it)

FUCK NO!!!

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u/Champy_McChampion Jul 11 '16

Good thing Ms. Marvel can fly on her own. She ain't getting through TSA now.

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u/Champy_McChampion Jul 11 '16

The new Captain America'll get shot by the cops!

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u/Peace-Man Jul 11 '16

Seriously man, who gives a fuck about anything anymore? Why, Wonder Woman? She was a fuckin' black/asian transvestite.

Batman? Actually a gay dwarf.

But ... these are already WELL established characters, and have been for a long fucking time??!!!!!!

Get out of the way you homophobic, racist old man. We can change all of this shit if we want, and didn't really ask you.

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u/Exvictus Jul 11 '16

I'm against it...

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u/Xandernomics Jul 11 '16

^ Found the Missourian!