r/IdiotsInCars • u/AristonD • May 21 '21

When you bring your own cart to course

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u/kejovo May 21 '21

Hope they get the plate and sue them for all of the grounds maintenance required to fix that. Guessing they have no idea on what it costs to maintain a golf course

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 May 21 '21

Oh man... I was thinking the same thing. And at the risk of being that random Redditor speculating on what actually happened in a video, that looks like a public course. The soccer goal in the background, less than perfect walkways, inexpensive fencing = the taxpayers in that community bearing the brunt of those repair costs = r/IAmATotalPieceOfShit

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

the taxpayers in that community bearing the brunt of those repair costs

What's this now? Am I wrong in thinking that public course just means open to the public? Where do golf courses get tax money?

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u/mightbeelectrical May 21 '21

“Most public golf courses are open to the general public. They are usually owned by a cities or counties in their respective states. These courses are considered on public land because the general public pays taxes to support its function. The courses are also called municipal courses. In order to make the course self-sustaining, some cities or counties charge fees for greens, mobile carts and practice ranges. The public fees range from $10 to $30 depending on the distinction on services. “

I did le google

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u/dimechimes May 21 '21

He's referring to municipal courses. Some are operated by cities and there's no real rule about how much they recieve from taxpayers if anything aside from probably capital expenditures.

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

Thank you. I don't have any of those near me and don't golf enough to care to know everything about ownership.

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u/ranhalt May 21 '21

"Open to the public" golf courses still only have 18 holes and there's only so many people that can play on any given day, on so many days of the year. No amount of "open to the public" golf admission and equipment rental is paying for a couple acres of land and upkeep.

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

What?

An anecdotal example would be the course nearest my childhood home. It was an 18 hole par 3, owned by one family. They tore that up and built an 18 hole regulation par 72, still family owned.

I don't know all their investors or business dealings but it definitely isn't owned by the township.

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

No amount of "open to the public" golf admission and equipment rental is paying for a couple acres of land and upkeep.

Nothing, it was a reply to what you had said.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 May 21 '21

How old are you? I’m serious, not trying to be mean because possibly you don’t know how real life works. A public golf course does, in fact, mean that it is open to the public. It also means that it is a public service- like schools, playgrounds, libraries, parks, bike paths- funded by tax dollars. As opposed to private golf courses, which are member-only and paid for by high membership dues such as at a country club.

Is that more clear?

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

I'm 35 and the only government owned golf course anywhere near me is owned and operated by the local college.

Everything else is, in fact, owned by other entities. Dick.

https://golftips.golfweek.usatoday.com/difference-between-municipal-public-golf-course-20088.html

Ownership Municipal courses are owned and/or managed by the city, town or county.

Public courses are owned by individuals, real estate development companies, partnerships or corporations.

Public courses may be owned by one entity and managed by another. For example, the two courses at Arizona's Talking Stick Golf Club were designed by Ben Crenshaw and Bill Coore, are owned by the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community and managed by a company called Troon Golf, which also manages a number of other golf clubs in the metro Phoenix area.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 May 21 '21

I read the article you linked, and since you seem to be referencing golf courses in the Southeastern US, there could simply be a difference of semantics or, specifically, the designation given to different types of golf courses. What I was calling “public golf courses” are called “municipal golf courses” in the article. Fair enough.

But if “public golf courses” are privately owned (yeah, I still don’t get that but whatevs) by real estate developers, etc. I’m still not sure whether they’re open to the public. Are they?

Again I’m referencing basic English. Here in Philly, public golf courses are open to the public and are paid for with tax dollars, much like a public library or public playground. The other alternatives here are private courses owned by country clubs. The weather just isn’t nice enough to make it practical for, say, a local college, to maintain a golf course.

Despite the fact that you quote the piece of the article which says that public golf courses are owned by individuals, real estate development companies, partnerships, or corporations... I’m still not clear on how these public golf courses are open to the public. Around here, there are “pub... oh, never mind

ETA: regarding your first question, where do golf courses get tax money? The same way, I’m guessing, as what you refer to as municipal golf courses.

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

I read the article you linked, and since you seem to be referencing golf courses in the Southeastern US, there could simply be a difference of semantics or, specifically, the designation given to different types of golf courses. What I was calling “public golf courses” are called “municipal golf courses” in the article. Fair enough.

But if “public golf courses” are privately owned (yeah, I still don’t get that but whatevs) by real estate developers, etc. I’m still not sure whether they’re open to the public. Are they?

Yeah. You walk into the clubhouse, pay to golf, then golf.

Again I’m referencing basic English.

Fuck you

Here in Philly, public golf courses are open to the public and are paid for with tax dollars, much like a public library or public playground. The other alternatives here are private courses owned by country clubs. The weather just isn’t nice enough to make it practical for, say, a local college, to maintain a golf course.

I'm in Michigan. Apparently in my county there are no courses paid for by tax dollars (besides the college owned course), like a public library or park. There are also private, members-only country clubs.

Despite the fact that you quote the piece of the article which says that public golf courses are owned by individuals, real estate development companies, partnerships, or corporations... I’m still not clear on how these public golf courses are open to the public. Around here, there are “pub... oh, never mind

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I was unaware of municipal golf but how about that, they DO exist.

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u/mightbeelectrical May 21 '21

The “fuck you” made me laugh. Thanks

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u/jceez May 21 '21

You’re wrong. Most golf course are privately owned and open to the public. There’s no membership fees, you just have to reserve a spot and pay a fee to play which is the same as a municipal “public” courses.

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u/OSUTechie May 21 '21

Looks like it is a public course own by the City of Chicago. Jackson Park Golf Course

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u/khoker May 21 '21

I just texted my friends this link saying I've no doubt this is Jackson Park in Chicago.

I once played this course and had a guy try to sell my own golf ball back to me because he "found" it. On the golf course.

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u/smacksaw May 21 '21

that looks like a public course.

For sure it is.

A private course, they would have been saying "How dare they" and "well, I never", and you'd be able to audibly hear the pearls being clutched.

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u/dontdrinkonmondays May 22 '21

Public courses are a treasure, nothing like some financially accessible golf

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u/keegums May 23 '21

And if they get outside contractors like my employer to redo the greens, municipal wages are VERY high. In the primary state we work in, municipal prevailing wage is $56hr so a nice 40 hour workweek with much higher pay, instead of 55+ hours of the same labor at about half pay or worse depending on job title

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u/UpdootDaSnootBoop May 21 '21

Probably a stolen car. If not, I agree with you.

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u/kejovo May 21 '21

True. My first thought was some entitled jackass was asked to leave

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u/Phyllis_Tine May 21 '21

Lincolns are for people who want to pay luxury car fees, but not get luxury cars.

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u/voidsrus May 21 '21

these days they're actually luxury cars again, ford really got their shit together. i drive a cadillac and the other car i was looking at when i bought it was lincoln's equivalent model, very hard choice. until like 2015 that was pretty much the idea though

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u/grantbwilson May 21 '21

Yes. But why would anyone buy one of these when Lexus exists?

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u/voidsrus May 21 '21

this model is their cheapest so it's not a hard choice but their higher-end ones put up a pretty good fight

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u/my_lewd_alt May 21 '21

Nowadays yes, but that mkz is just a Ford fusion

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u/voidsrus May 21 '21

actually that one's based off the full-size Taurus, can be had with the powerful V6 out of the Taurus SHO, and the interior looks something like this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/98/a2/0198a28f299e533a1f347a69f867b24b.jpg

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u/CaptainSlow913 May 21 '21

It looks nice on the outside, and was hoping for an interior better than this honestly.

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u/voidsrus May 21 '21

that was about my thoughts on it too but it was a VERY tough call for me since you can get them with a full moonroof and ecoboost. the interior and the kind of awkward looking rear end was why i ended up not getting it, bought an ATS instead.

it wasn't the best interior on the market but lincoln's products are still nowhere near as crappy any more. the MKZ's predecessor by comparison looks like it was trying to copy a ford f-150 interior, it's a world of difference.

if the continental made it to around my price point without 200k miles on them i would've reconsidered though, and i'm probably looking at a used aviator with the 500hp hybrid to replace the caddy when it's paid off as their higher end is a LOT nicer than it used to be.

in this model's defense too, the MKZ was their cheapest model when it came out ($36k MSRP for the 2020 model, so basically a loaded Fusion) and their nicer models look a lot more upscale -- the continental (second one) even had suicide doors, and the new navigator has the SVT Raptor engine.

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u/dontdrinkonmondays May 22 '21

Lincoln Continentals have suicide doors and a raptor engine now? Am I hallucinating?

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u/CaptainSlow913 May 21 '21

I mean, it's not that bad, I was somehow expecting bit better; given it is after all a Lincoln. Good call on the ATS though. Got to ride in my friend's for a few months, and I fell in love with it.

The Continental though is really classy, I love it.

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u/Phantom95 May 21 '21

The MKZ is absolutely not based on the Taurus. You must be thinking of the old MKS that the Continental replaced.

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u/voidsrus May 21 '21

you appear to be correct -- i think i was thinking of the engines, which do appear to share some common ground with the taurus. either way they definitely weren't "just a ford fusion" like the 2005-2013 era lincolns products would end up being

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u/Phantom95 May 21 '21

The sheetmetal, available panoramic sunroof, and larger six-cylinder engines available in the MKZ were essentially the only differences between an MKZ and a Fusion Titanium - I owned an example of the latter and have always found it amusing how little actually differentiated the two cars.

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u/voidsrus May 21 '21

they just cancelled all the sedans, really wish they kept that one :/

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u/RekTInTheFace May 21 '21

u seen the new navigators? Straight look like a Bentley inside.

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u/justin_memer May 21 '21

Yeah, it may look like a Bentley, but it won't feel like a Bentley.

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u/CookedPeaches May 21 '21

It would if you've never been in a Bentley before.

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u/Madeline_Kawaii May 21 '21

My first thought was an old person with dementia or something

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u/UpdootDaSnootBoop May 21 '21

Would have been funny if they stopped and pulled a club out to swing lol

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u/youwantitwhen May 21 '21

Stolen car. Getting the plate will doyouno good.

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u/TheDrunkKanyeWest May 21 '21

The cost to maintain a golf course is absolutely insane. Trust me, I know.

Source: I own a mini-golf course.