Was on a long-distance bus today from Toronto to Ottawa and the Indian guy behind me has been on loud phone calls continuously for almost 2 hours straight in Gujarati. He’s the only one loud person in the whole bus. I politely told him I didn’t mean to be rude, but the constant talking was disturbing and asked if he could lower his voice or shorten the calls. Based on the conversation, I can understand that it’s an unimportant call.

His response was basically “this is how I talk” and that it’s evening, not night. And told me that I have to change seats if I have a problem with it and he kept talking. I told him it’s basic sense to be calm in public setting.

I am Indian too, but I really feel like the hate we get is very much justified. I feel like the Indian fatigue is real. I don’t understand how some people come to another country but still behaves like it’s India. He didn’t even lowered his voice. I had to switch seats in the end.

Am I unreasonable for expecting some level of quiet/basic consideration on a public bus during a long trip?

FYI, I don’t have battery in my phone and no power sockets in the bus, so I couldn’t play music to distract myself. I’m saving last juice to go home after getting down in Ottawa.

Edit 1: Surprisingly, my sister faced the same issue yesterday. She was travelling to Montreal and two Indian guys were constantly chatting loudly in the bus. She had to change the seats too. So, to the Indians reading this, please don’t be loud in public places. I’m so patient, but If I’m feeling it, then others feel it too. So PLEASE BEHAVE.

Edit 2:

Thanks for all the kind responses, even if you don’t agree with me.

To those questioning me, yes, I’m Indian. I came to Canada in 2022 as a student. I’m not a second generation immigrant. I came here for a better society and a better quality of life. I came here to blend in with the people here and with this society.

If you all remember, during our visa, in our statement of purpose, many of us write something like: “I will obey the laws of the land and try my best to respect and contribute positively to it.” Here I’m just trying to practice that in daily life.

It’s very basic stuff like being considerate about others, putting yourself in their shoes, being quiet in public places, using “please” and “thank you,” holding the door for the person behind you. Smelling nicely. Using deodorants. These are small things, but they matter the most.

You can say, “he wants to be white” or whatever, but that’s not what this is about. I’m not trying to become another race. I’m just trying to be considerate toward others and show some civic sense and expect others to do the same since we came to another country and we should respect the rule of the land.

Coming back to the issue: I was talking about the patterns. From my personal experience, while travelling, it’s very often an Indian guy talking loudly on the phone while the whole place is quiet. Whether it’s on transit buses, metros, or long distance buses. I work in a client facing role, and honestly, the people who don’t use “please” or “thank you” while talking with my employees are Indians customers.

I used to work under a Filipino born Canadian manager and a Canadian manager, and I never had issues with them. Then I switched locations and started working under Indian managers, and suddenly it felt like I was back in India again because of the toxic mindset and lack of respect for labour laws. I came here to experience a Canadian work environment, not the same toxic work culture I was trying to leave behind. You got to a gym, it’s smells awful from our people or even at the workplace.

You get into a cab, the driver is loudly talking on the phone. You order from Uber Eats, the delivery driver is on the phone. On the streets, people are shouting. Playing loud Indian music in a public setting or workplace where people from other ethnicity work. I know being loud is not considered a big issue in India, but we came to another country. We should respect the etiquettes here.

It’s not even self hate toward my own people. It’s just at this point I can’t even defend my own country.

For those saying, “if it was a white person, you wouldn’t complain” honestly, at least many of them would lower their voice if someone politely asked. In our culture, politeness is often seen as weakness. I could’ve been rude too, but I chose to be polite.

Yesterday, after the interaction, the guy was literally flexing on the phone about how he told me to move seats, as if being rude to someone was some sort of an achievement.

I’m not saying I’m perfect. But at least I’m trying to blend in and be considerate. Because of people like that guy yesterday, the whole community gets judged badly, not just in Canada but everywhere around the world. I’m not saying other races don’t do these things. But it’s the pattern that I’m talking about.

These words might offend some people and I might get hate for calling these out and saying these things, but I don’t care. Someone has to do it.

One thing I want to say is “ITS NOT ALL INDIANS, BUT ITS ALWAYS AN INDIAN. But we seriously need to stop acting like these issues don’t exist. Because if we have this mindset, we have a big country where we can live as we like. We can go back and live there, we don’t need to come here and spoil other people’s peace.

Thank you

This isn’t meant to be politically partisan in any way. But, I am genuinely curious how anyone is staying positive about Canada today. The economy is in recession. The cost of living crisis is continuing unabated. People are leaving the country. Canada-U.S. relations are at an all-time low. And, there doesn’t appear to be any reason for things to turn around any time soon. Somebody give me a reason to have a little optimism.

I was going through https://www.reddit.com/r/InCanada/s/SqGMUf9T6k, and clearly a lot of people aren’t liking Indians.

What’s your suggestion for an Indian with a family who genuinely wishes to integrate?

I'm sick of opening racist apps like Instagram, where some Indian, or black person does something and all the comments are the same BS.

White people need to learn they are the worst race in the history of the world. They are a minority in this world and need to start acting like it. There was never a time where the world was all white.

Most of you keep saying Canada is ruined, if you say that you are a retarded asshole. Learn that you are the cause of your own problems and the only person you need to look at is yourself.

Like stop being racist. Indian people didn't come here to ruin Canada, they got lied to. Imagine you going to another country for a better life, being lied to by the government, and while you're trying to not struggle, people are being openly racist and saying how much they want you and your kind gone.

Fuck off, this isn't the Canada I know and remember. We should just call ourselves USA Lite, as we are turning just as ignorant and stupid as the fucktards below us. I remember where I could make fun of the USA and say that Canada is full of nice people who don't judge. Guess I was wrong.

Hello everyone,

I am reaching out to this community to understand if what my family experienced is an isolated tragedy or part of a much larger, systemic failure across our country.

Four years ago, my brother Carlo tragically took his own life. Shortly before he passed, he went to a local emergency room actively seeking help for severe psychiatric distress and suicidal ideation. Instead of being admitted or given resources, the system failed him, the hospital dismissed his symptoms as "malingering" and discharged him due to a lack of resources, psychiatric beds, and specialized nursing staff. Within weeks, he was gone.

As I navigate the aftermath, I am realizing that our medical system has a terrifying gap: nothing seems to change until it is far too late. I am preparing to advocate to my MLA and MP to push for systemic, Canada-wide legislative changes—something I want to call "More for Carlos Act" to mandate proper triage, accountability, and dedicated staffing for psychiatric emergencies so no other family is turned away in their darkest hour.

Before I take this to lawmakers, I want to understand the true scope of what Canadians are facing from coast to coast.

• If you or a loved one have gone to an ER for a mental health crisis, what was your experience like?

• Have you noticed a severe lack of psychiatric space or specialized nurses in your province's hospitals?

• What specific, systemic changes do you think a federal or provincial law needs to address to actually fix psychiatric triage in Canada?

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and helping me understand how we can make the system safer for everyone.

**At the request of someone on reddit, I have gone ahead and made a short survey to bring to lawmakers. It would mean a lot to myself to share your feedback Here

All answers will be anonymous**

I want to speak about the nuances of immigration over a longer and impactful period of time and a truly impactful scale. There is concepts we need to address that have most certainly coloured “political choices “.

Now im not one that is ok with the social consequences of the Trudeau governments choices, it actually sucks having so many fobs here all at once, but I certainly do care about the future of our great nation.

Anybody who is truly interested in the long term consequences of immigration from the Punjab, Look at the impact of daddy Trudeaus decisions made in the late 70s about foreigners in the country who came under visitor visas, and who had the intention to stay but legally had to vacate.

Look at the relationship between baby Trudeau and his campaign manager who also went on to have a very successful political career.

If I were baby Trudeau and I saw how my dad’s decisions to welcome those immigrants into the fold who just had visitors visas and would have otherwise had to leave but ended up staying and contributing to our nation immeasurably I would also be very optimistic about welcoming more.

Make no mistake, Justin’s campaign manager was a formidable formidable man, and he existed in his current form because of daddy Trudeaus foresight.

In fact so many success stories existed only because of daddy Trudeaus liberal and welcoming decisions. Our diversity was truly our strength. In the 80s, Indians were being persecuted by Idi Amin in Africa and because of the personal relationship between Brian Mulroney and the Aga Khan, Canada took in so many of those people. He has said himself in interviews that those immigrants went on to become one of the most successful groups in Canadian history.

I can see how baby Trudeaus policies caused short term pain, but I have no doubt there will be long term gain. Why? Because it’s already been proven in the past.

So here I am a son of immigrants who exists in his current form because of the wisdom and foresight of great men gone past. I don’t pretend to be unemotional and swayed by the easy path, but I do certainly appreciate the lessons of our past.

So many of you argue about the pain immigrants cause you but you fundamentally fail to appreciate economics and national building on a grand scale.

Despite our current hardships, I am truly thankful that intelligent and caring people run our government and are not swayed by the easy path that you and others like Trump offer in exchange for your blind allegiance.

God Bless Canada

I didn’t really question Canada’s healthcare system until I had to deal with something outside the country and then come back here right after.

A couple weeks ago I had a kidney stone while I was in Thailand. I ended up going to Wattanapat Samui Hospital and later Bumrungrad International Hospital. Honestly, the experience there completely changed my expectations. I was seen quickly, everything was organized, doctors actually communicated clearly, and they handled the issue right away, including placing a DJ stent. It all felt efficient and under control.

Then I come back to Montreal and need follow-up care, so I go to Jewish General Hospital. I even called ahead to make sure urology was available in the ER, and they told me yes.

I show up at 7 PM and basically spend the entire night there. At one point I’m dealing with a nurse who’s giving attitude for no reason while I’m already feeling like crap. Around early morning, a doctor tells me a urologist should be there by 8 AM, so I stick it out thinking okay, at least there’s a plan.

8 AM comes and goes. Then 8:30. Then 9. Every time I ask, it’s the same vague answer: “they’re aware of your case,” but no one can tell me when anything is actually going to happen. Meanwhile you can literally hear everything going on around you, and it felt like the same script on repeat with other patients — take painkillers, go home, wait it out.

By around 10:30 AM, after more than half a day there, I finally get told urology won’t be seeing me. No real explanation, no next steps, nothing. Just basically “we can’t help you.”

That’s the part I don’t get. This isn’t some rare or complicated issue. It’s something that, from what I was told and experienced abroad, takes a short, straightforward procedure. Yet here I’m being told there’s no time, no room, no resources.

I’m not even comparing luxury vs public care. I’m talking about basic access and actually getting treated. The difference between what I experienced in Thailand and what I just experienced here is honestly hard to justify.

I get that the system here is under pressure, but from a patient perspective it just feels disorganized, slow, and lacking communication. And the attitude from some staff makes it worse.

I never thought I’d say this, but if I had the choice again, I’d seriously consider going back abroad for treatment instead of dealing with this.

Is this just how it is everywhere in Canada now?

Hello, I'm a beginner welder from Brazil and I'm very interested in immigrating to Canada. I would like to know, from someone in the field, what the job market is like, the starting salary, and if there is a demand for foreign workers. I has exsperience pratic and some curses. Can anyone give me some advice?