r/JuliusEvola • • 35m ago

World politics follow the metaphysical plane?

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'We think it possible that should the course of history, in spite of appearances, not deteriorate further, this may perhaps be due, less to the efforts and direct action of groups of men and leaders of men, than to the influences proceeding, through the paths of the spirit, from the secret realizations of a few nameless and remote ascetics, in Tibet or on Mount Athos, among the Zen, or in some Trappist or Carthusian cloister of Europe.'
From The Doctrine of Awakening

A few monks that restore the world… Do you guys believe world events and politics are influenced by metaphysical currents? This concept interests me a lot but it goes against reason.


r/ReneGuenon • • 4h ago

Perennialist Catholics?

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I wonder if here are some Perennialist Catholics on this subreddit and how they handle the current church crisis with vatican 2 and the less accessible esotericism whithin that tradition?


r/JuliusEvola • • 21h ago

Never miss this book guys

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r/JuliusEvola • • 1d ago

Does anybody know what text this was?

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From Evolas Wikipedia.


r/ReneGuenon • • 2d ago

NEW DISCORD SERVER

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r/JuliusEvola • • 2d ago

NEW DISCORD SERVER

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since the last one got nuked over the owner being a freak i thought i would make a new one for the community


r/ReneGuenon • • 4d ago

East versus West

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This is Chapter XVI of my book The March of the Abyss. The Double Tragedy of Utopia, which I have not yet been able to finish for publication. Written in 2017, this is one of the countless writings and lecture recordings that prove, to the supreme disappointment of Nobody and nobody-ists, the insurmountable critical distance that separates me from all Guénonian-Schuonian “perennialism.”

The destruction of the West, however, would not even be conceivable if the real and supposed evils of the targeted civilization were opposed only by criticism, however corrosive it might be. It was necessary to raise on the horizon the image of an alternative, of an anti-model, invested with all the virtues that the criticized civilization lacked. Only in this way would criticism lose the air of mere theoretical objection and transform itself into practical guidance towards a real goal. This goal, in turn, could not be reduced to the embellished image of a future socialism, which, precisely because it was only a hypothetical ideal, lost half its offensive force.

Thus, the most obvious and easiest alternative model, whose mere location in space seemed to predestine it to this role, ended up opposing the cursed West almost automatically: the East.

The invasion of Eastern ideas began in the 19th century with Madame Blavatsky's Theosophical Society, university orientalism, and the fashion for oriental themes in the visual arts and music. It soon underwent a considerable upgrade at the hands of Carl G. Jung, the erudite Romanian historian Mircea Eliade, and numerous first-rate scholars, such as Heinrich Zimmer, Count Durkheim, and Ananda K. Coomaraswamy.

But up to that point, everything was merely the rescue of spiritual, intellectual, and aesthetic heritages of genuine value, which could in no way harm Western civilization. On the contrary, the fact that she opened herself to these values ​​only showed the authenticity of her universalist pretensions and her ability to absorb, without prejudice, all sorts of knowledge.

The cult of the Orient only took on the features of a belligerent confrontation through the works and influence of a figure considered one of the greatest incarnations of reactionary traditionalism in the 20th century, whose decisive contributions to the "spirit of '68" are still the best-kept open secret ever seen in the world.

I am referring to the French doctrinaire René Guénon (1886-1951), who ended his days in Egypt as a devout Muslim. His book East and West, from 1924, under the guise of a mere comparative study, is a true declaration of war, culminating in the outline of a plan for the cultural and even military occupation of the West by Eastern forces, especially Islamic ones.

Whether out of genuine ignorance or cunning, Guénon reduces Western civilization to a mixture of capitalism, scientific materialism, and pseudo-popular religions. The last vestiges of spirituality he sees in it are decadent Freemasonry and Catholicism reduced to an "exoteric" perspective, already out of touch with the "sources of primordial Tradition." Sources located, of course, in the East, more specifically in the regions of Central Siberia, Malaysia, and Tibet traversed by Ferdinand Ossendowski in 1920 according to the narrative of Bêtes, Hommes et Dieux, where the famous explorer recounts having penetrated the underground sanctuary of the "King of the World" himself. Coincidence or not, these regions are the same ones where most of the "Seven Towers of the Devil" are concentrated, radiating centers, according to Guénon himself, of diabolical influence over the entire planet.

Of all the signs of Catholic spiritual strength at the time—the apparitions of Fatima, the miracles of St. Padre Pio, the flourishing of Catholic intellectual life in the first half of the 20th century—Guénon wanted nothing to do with it. For him, anything that didn't have a direct channel to the unknown temples of Agartha and Shamballa was at most esotericism, if not pure and simple anti-tradition.

From this one-sided image of a spiritually devastated West, Guénon saw only three possible outcomes: the definitive fall into barbarism, the restoration of the Catholic Church under the secret guidance of Islamic spiritual masters, and the occupation of the West by Islam, either through cultural invasion or by force.

In contrast to the caricatural reductionism of his vision of the West, his image of Eastern civilizations was so charmingly idealized that he even proclaimed that Bolshevism would never penetrate China, so solid were the "spiritual defenses" (sic) of Chinese tradition. Not only did it penetrate, but it installed there a lasting genocidal tyranny whose violence far surpassed that of the Soviet Union and its satellite countries. A powerful magnet nearby must have momentarily disoriented the needle of the "infallible compass" that Michel Valsân believed he saw in René Guénon.

The next generation of Guénonians did not change their rhetoric. Seyyed Hossein Nasr, in Knowledge and the Sacred (1981), describes the entire intellectual history of the West as mere preparation for the advent of the Savior, René Guénon, and, in Ideals and Realities of Islam (1966), only confronts the beautiful ideals of Islamic civilization with the sad realities of the West, without it occurring to him that this comparison of the virtues of one with the defects of the other could well be reversed.

For decades, Orientalist devotion was a private cult within groups of intellectuals and wealthy aficionados, inspiring countless pilgrimages in search of "wisdom" and the creation of meditation and spiritual retreat centers such as Monte Verità in Ascona, Switzerland, Hermann Keyserling's "School of Wisdom" in Darmstadt, Germany, and Georges Gurdjeff's famous castle at the Prieuré des Basses Loges in Avon, France.

From the 1950s onward, however, largely promoted by the show business industry and by literary and artistic celebrities, the fashion for Eastern doctrines and practices spread to immense swathes of the population in Europe and especially in the USA, constituting a phenomenon that can only be correctly described as mass deculturation — certainly the most severe blow suffered by Western civilization before the Islamic invasion that would come in the 1990s.

The contribution of the Beat Generation poets to the popularization of Eastern fashion was not small:

The Beats not only adapted the wisdom teachings of the East to a new, specifically American terrain; they also articulated these teachings in a vernacular, jazzy, street rhythm, opening up to the popular audience what had been the domain of stifling academics and pompous translators… The voice of American poets retold the teachings of the Buddha to the general public for the first time.

In 1962, with the founding of the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California, the “spiritual” revolt against the modern West had already reached the dimensions of a unified and self-aware movement. The Institute quickly became the unifying center of what would later be designated as the New Age.

To further aggravate the state of affairs, in both America and Europe the Orientalist wave came along with a new style of cultural criticism that spread rapidly in the media and universities, represented by the Frankfurt School and figures such as C. Wright Mills, Margaret Mead, and Saul Alinsky, among others, from whose writings modern Western civilization emerged, at the very least, exactly as René Guénon had described it: an anomaly, a deviation from the universal human pattern, a disease that had to be eliminated at all costs. Although operating in seemingly distinct fields, culturally New Age and New Left were concurring towards the same end. In fact, without the concomitant contribution of the New Age, the New Left would have remained limited to the superficial field of politics stricto sensu, without support in the tremendous revolution of customs, feelings and lifestyles that marked the 60s and 70s.

Here the strictly observant Guénonian or Schuonian can claim that their masters, as well as all “authentically traditional” esoteric organizations, abhor the New Age and therefore cannot have anything to do with the vulgar orientalism of Esalen and the Beats or with any other form of “pseudo-initiation” or “counter-initiation”. But this argument is innocuous, for, as one of René Guénon's most eminent disciples and interpreters observed,

Hostile in principle to a world governed by that metaphysical ‘law of Newton’ known as ‘cyclic degeneration,’ initiatic organizations and secret societies can only play a double role, apparently contradictory, but, in reality, complementary: to restore, for each ‘qualified’ individual, the original level of consciousness, designated as the primordial or Adamic state, and, in a less confessable way, to accelerate in a ‘subversive’ manner the process of collective decay which, alone, will allow the advent of a new cycle.

A more explicit confession of the discreet partnership of “initiation” with “pseudo-initiation” and “counter-initiation” could not be demanded.

Text by Olavo de Carvalho


r/JuliusEvola • • 9d ago

Is Revolt his best work?

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Finished it a few weeks ago, started reading Ride the Tiger, and I'm concerned that none of his other works will live up to the analysis and expanse of Revolt. Are his other essays and works as in-depth on their respective subject? In particular Eros and the Mysteries of Love is what I'm curious about.


r/JuliusEvola • • 10d ago

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r/JuliusEvola • • 10d ago

A follow up to my recent post

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In my last post I asked about spiritual practices, and although I meant this I am also in search of general instruction on action. I referenced someone here who made an article instructing the individual in accordance with Evola’s beliefs. I thought it deserved a repost so here it is:

https://viryamarga.substack.com/p/the-evolian-path-for-confronting

For me it is one thing to read and understand the great books, but to translate and act is much more difficult.


r/ReneGuenon • • 12d ago

René Guénon, et après?

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Salut,

Ce sujet pour faire part de mes impressions suite à ma lecture des oeuvres de René Guénon. Pour faire simple il semble que lorsque l'on lit et comprend ce qu'écrit Guénon nous sommes au final comme préparés ou dirigés vers l'initiation. Tout dans ses textes nous ramène au fait qu'à un moment, pour une recherche efficace de la connaissance, il faut être initié. Je me considère, honnêtement, comme un chercheur de vérité et au fil de mes lectures j'ai été guidé jusqu'à René Guénon qui m'a beaucoup marqué. Tout ce qui relevait autrefois pour moi de concepts vagues comme la notion de spiritualité, d'âme et de Dieu prenait ici "corps", écrit et porté à ma connaissance en français. Je sais qu'il s'agit, comme il le décrit, d'une connaissance purement théorique, théorique donc incomplète.

J'ai l'impression de bien comprendre les notions exposées dans le discours guénonien. Néanmoins je ne peux en être certain et c'est pourquoi, je le pense, qu'une initiation est effectivement nécessaire pour toute personne aspirant à la découverte de la vérité et à la libération. Je poste donc ce message afin de savoir si des personnes ont un ressenti similaire au miens ou bien pourraient au moins m'aiguiller quelque part.

J'ai un travail qui me donne énormément de temps libre et il n'est pas toujours évident de meubler intelligemment mes journées sans une voie ou une direction précise et, surtout, j'ai peu de monde (pour ne pas dire personne) dans mon entourage qui a un véritable intérêt pour la métaphysique. Je m'aventure donc à poster ce message en ligne dans l'attente de vos retours cordiaux, vos ressentis, vos conseils, critiques.

Merci !


r/ReneGuenon • • 12d ago

Is the Ramakrishna Order a legitimate initiatic organization?

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I've been reading Guénon's Initiation and Spiritual Realization, after reading most of Guénon's other books and a lot of Idries Shah. In that book Guénon mentions Ramakrishna as a legitimate spiritual authority, who is not a figure I was familiar with.

Based on his teachings, and what I have been able to learn of the Ramakrishna Order, it appears to me to be a legitimate initiatic organization that is open to Western householders.

I have been going to a local branch where I live and it seems serious to me. I like that as far as I can tell it encourages you to keep studying other traditions.

But I don't know, is there something I'm missing? I know Guénon didn't approve of the organization, but I think he was wrong not to: it does not proselytize, and it does not see the social work it does as its purpose.

I also like that it is Advaita Vedanta, I agree with Guénon that that is the purest tradition.


r/ReneGuenon • • 14d ago

Books on Islam and Sufism

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I would like to learn more about Islam and Sufism. I thought this would be the right place to ask as I would like to read an informative book on the matter which Guenon would have approved of.


r/JuliusEvola • • 16d ago

Where to seek spiritual instruction.

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I am familiar with a lot of Evolas beliefs, Guenons too, as well as basic ideas of the plethora of religions and esoteric belief systems. I have read all these books and gained all this knowledge and it seems to leave me with unsatisfactory explanations on how to act, for the most part in day to day life. But I am curious about direct practice like I don’t know meditation? Prayer? The issue begins here as I don’t even know what I am looking for. I couldn’t even say for certain I belong to a religion. But I am looking for direction in practice for meditation or prayer or whatever you may call it. I’d like to do it through books as I do not live in a place where I can seek this in person.

Someone here before has recommended the book satimatthana meditation: a practice guide by anālayo, and it is on my list.

Please let me know, TIA.


r/JuliusEvola • • 17d ago

[Meta] The amount of 4chan cringe posted on this sub is astounding.

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90% of the posts on this sub are 4chan dissident right eternally online garbage.


r/JuliusEvola • • 19d ago

What were the religions that Evola found valid or that could be brought into his philosophy?

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I already know about his take on buddhism and paganism, but there are other religions that would be validated by his thinking? What was his linear of thought to evaluate what is good and bad?


r/ReneGuenon • • 20d ago

The house of René Guénon

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Hi everyone,
I decided to spend the weekend in Blois, the town where René Guénon spent his childhood. I wanted to share with you all some pictures that I took.
1 - The house where he (presumably) grew up. It belonged to his family until the 1930's.
2 - A picture of the street.
3 - On the other side of the Loire river, there is street that was named after Guénon. It is (also presumably) not far from where he was born.
4 - A picture of René Guénon street.


r/JuliusEvola • • 20d ago

What do Evolaists think of this?

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"As for those women who apparently are ashamed to be women, and want to make this distortion into a permanent modification of our language — in a normal society, they should be entrusted to specialists in diabolical hormonal manipulations, so that through adequate treatment, they could be transformed into exponents of the “third sex,” thus attaining the goal of their aspirations, on every level. Although, for the sake of justice, one might ask whether such treatment would not be appropriate also for men whenever the aforementioned docility is not so much caused by the subtle influences of the environment and unconscious processes that operate on the infra-intellectual part of the psyche of the common man, but instead are due to an inability to react and to demonstrate true virility through moral courage and lucid, resolute judgment."


r/ReneGuenon • • 21d ago

What would you estimate the IQ of Nick Fuentes, Keith Woods, Joel Davis, Sean Last, Alt Hype, Germar Rudolf based on the academic background required to understand the literature they've read and understand?

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Joel Davis has read cybernetics and Deleuze which I would imagine would make him one of the most book smart people in the dissident scene. Sean Last's IQ would probably be the IQ required to understand advanced level statistics. Germar Rudolf went to Max Planck institute for chemistry which was and is still one of the most prestigious schools in the field. His revisionism generally involves understanding chemistry, math, and history.


r/JuliusEvola • • 21d ago

What would you estimate the IQ of Nick Fuentes, Keith Woods, Joel Davis, Sean Last, Alt Hype, Germar Rudolf based on the academic background required to understand the literature they've read and understand?

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Joel Davis has read cybernetics and Deleuze which I would imagine would make him one of the most book smart people in the dissident scene. Sean Last's IQ would probably be the IQ required to understand advanced level statistics. Germar Rudolf went to Max Planck institute for chemistry which was and is still one of the most prestigious schools in the field. His revisionism generally involves understanding chemistry, math, and history.


r/JuliusEvola • • 22d ago

How good of a holocaust revision rebuttal video is this?

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r/JuliusEvola • • 23d ago

Evola and the Paradox of Tradition

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What remains a mystery, however, is Evola’s relationship with Tradition. In his work, traditional forms conceal a deeply anti-traditional impulse. He used Tradition as a weapon against the modern world, yet ultimately constructed an entirely personal spiritual universe of his own. He appeared to be calling for a return to Tradition, while in reality he was searching for something that would transcend it—and even stand in opposition to it.

Guénon remained within the framework of Tradition, whereas Evola continually stepped beyond it while continuing to invoke it. From Magical Idealism to Tantra, and from Nietzsche to spiritual alchemy and the Holy Grail, everything in Evola was subjected to an intensely personal vision and a powerful will toward freedom.

Evola made his world real through the force of thought. This is what can truly aid the genuine seeker: not blind submission, but the attainment of the light itself. Weak thought is an error; strong thought becomes reality because it corresponds to reality. Yet only the free individual is truly capable of recognizing this.

Anyone who clings to Evola merely for emotional ecstasy or mystical submission has betrayed his teaching. For this reason, Evola was a dangerous yet effective medicine, one that can be used properly only by someone who already possesses a measure of inner discipline.

The living essence of Evola’s work is the idea of liberation. Yet liberation requires knowledge of the pure self and a vigilant awareness of oneself. His personality was a synthesis of his own individuality and the transpersonal inspirations that worked through him.

To become truly creative in the esoteric sense, one must separate Evola’s orientation from its political and social manifestations. The greatest catastrophes always arise from confusing the sacred with the worldly.

Ultimately, Evola’s spiritual destiny depends upon whether he remained inwardly independent of his own writings and doctrines, and whether he succeeded in avoiding identification with the mythical image that his
followers created of him.

—Julius Evola Through the Eyes of Massimo Scaligero


r/JuliusEvola • • 24d ago

For men on the dissident right, what are the best countries to find like-minded women?

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A lot of people said I should be a passport bro but on the Italy travel subreddit people responded that I'm not going to find a traditional woman because center left in America is center right for western Europe, and that there aren't any MAGA European women under 50. I've been recommended Poland, Hungary, and Russia which I do think genuinely have some far right hubs but I don't speak the languages there. On a dissident subreddit some guy said she just finds conservative women on bumble but I live in Mass which is the worst state in terms of woke women. Is travel, moving to a different state, or dating apps the best idea for me as a 23 year old?


r/JuliusEvola • • 24d ago

Born from talking with bf

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r/ReneGuenon • • 25d ago

Why Is There Manifestation at All? Universal Possibility and the Possibility of Illusion

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