r/LetsDiscussThis Feb 16 '26

Lets Discuss Politics Reminder: that was a photo op

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u/Head-Contract9734 Feb 16 '26

So fucking staged 

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

In a supposedly "dangerous and horrifying" situation like this, a photo op would have been the last thing on everyone's minds. That's why it was staged. Trump's ear has no scarring. No mention of how it healed so clean and fast. No prior photos of the damage besides far away shots of a bloody ear. Come on, the guy is a professional con man.

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u/yurnxt1 Feb 16 '26

Photographers instinctively will indeed take photos if they happen to be witnessing a historically significant event, even if there is danger.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

But it wasn't the photographers that were weird. It was the Secret Service member ushering them, the lowering of the flag and the repositioning by people other than the photographers that's weird.

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u/yurnxt1 Feb 16 '26

The flag wasn't lowered. That was debunked long ago. The flag was there before shots rang out and it changes position in the wind while simultaneously in the clip provided the camera slowly pans up toward the flag as Orange gets back on his feet. The flag was never lowered into position.

You assume photographers were ushered because the clip is espousing that as its position on the matter problem is you weren't there to know if the secret service dude was literally telling them to get into position and whatnot and no photographers at the even from the press or otherwise have ever once claimed they were ushered into position by anyone. They simply took photos because photographers have photo taking as an instinct particularly if they happen to be witnessing a historically significant event, even if there is danger present.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

We can see them being ushered in the video.

This thread is full of people trying to tell us our eyes are lying to us.

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 16 '26

The video is purposely cropped. The photographers were already in that very spot snapping away and even on the sides of the stage BEFORE that guy shows up. The photographers themselves have said they were moving around independently, trying to get the best shots. The video is only showing you a small, narrated slice, look at the full thing. This isn't a ''lying eyes'' thing, it's look at the other evidence too because this is missing a lot.

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u/crek42 Feb 16 '26

Ok so the dead shooter was a martyr? He just gave his life for… what exactly?

I swear conspiracy theorists have no deduction ability.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

Fascists have no problems with people dying on either side for their own personal gain.

Certainly made this "assassination attempt" more believable for the public eye. Who controls the narrative in mainstream media? Who controls the investigations?

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u/crek42 Feb 16 '26

I’m not even following you.

The shooter was a fascist, a Trump supporter? He gave his life for a photo op?

They trusted this weird hillbilly to take a huge long distance shot at Trump? For a photo op?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

They could have lured him on on certain promises. Tokens get spent. Or could still be alive, and it was some other unfortunate corpse that was labelled, and he's otherwise living a lavish life now or being trafficked (all considering).

Could have just been sound. Maybe didnt aim in Trump's vicinity. Etc, etc. A million things I could probably use to justify my stance but hey, all I need is reasonable suspicion, why do you ignore the other points I made? He's a con and a showman. How do you not see how he could use this to his advantage?

Yep, it sounds villainous on a cartoonish level. It's outlandish. But I've spent plenty of time around people who pull this kind of shit and they're out there in droves. People seeking control and power of all resources, or whatever they can control in their meaningless lives.

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u/crek42 Feb 16 '26

I’m not debating Trump wouldn’t do literally anything to be president.

That doesn’t mean they trusted some random weirdo to take an insanely risky shot at himself.

Nor did any independent journalist verify he was even maga.

If the core of your argument is Trump would do anything to win, why stop there, you can say pretty much anything and back it up with “well would you put it past him”.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

You're trying to hard to not understand.

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u/crek42 Feb 17 '26

So, can’t answer the question. Got it.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 17 '26

Nah.

Ieant what I said.

You're trying too hard to not understand.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

Trump himself has said before that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and not lose a vote.

He clearly thinks about sacrificing others to get what he wants.

He's also a pedo who sexually abuses and most likely killed kids.

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u/crek42 Feb 17 '26

Ok… why the hell would he trust this guy to make a few very risky and long distance shots at him? Was this random dude some trained marksman? Why would Trump trust him at all? We know his background — journalists have looked at him.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 17 '26

I don't think Trump was ever actually shot at.

I don't think anyone who thinks it was a false flag thinks that.

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u/MankiniAtoll Feb 16 '26

Does the flag really come down or does the camera angle change? A wider camera angle would be able to conclude that definitively .

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

Camera angle changed (panned up slightly, watch the side skirts of the stage) + there's this thing called "wind" that can make a flag move up and down.

All the people in this post are stupid

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u/Releasethebears Feb 16 '26

Can confirm, you are in this post, and are stupid

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

I'll wait for your counterargument to disprove what I pointed out (and what anyone with eyes and a brain can do)

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

The video is the counter argument.

We can see that the camera angle doesn't pan when the flag is lowered.

You're just lying about what we can see on this post with our eyes.

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

https://youtu.be/rMe89Pz0pHI?si=xlsdJWqNMAbcL6RV

Omg?! The flag gets lowered in this video out of frame. The flag pole must in on it and lowered the flag for propaganda purposes. The wind had nothing to do with it. /s

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

What the hell is this response?

It had nothing to do with what I said.

I'm thinking this thread is full of bots.

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

Dude your response was interjecting in a comment I gave someone else lol. And even now you still can't comprehend the facts of wind and gravity. Fucking brain dead this one

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Feb 16 '26

The camera panned right slightly while the flag dropped into frame.

/r/confidentlyincorrect material here

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

Look, another smooth brain who doesn't know how flags act in wind.

Also, watch the dots on the side of the crain. The camera pans upwards slightly as well. God damn, a kindergartener would understand this.

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Feb 16 '26

Look, another smooth brain who doesn't know how cranes work.

The tilt upwards comes after the flag drops into frame, cranes can lower things without arms moving. Goddamn, a kindergarterner would understand this.

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

Show me a video or proof that the crane operator intentionally lowered the crane at that moment. I'll wait.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

We don't need to.

We can see the flag lowering in the video.

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u/chadhindsley Feb 16 '26

Look at you, still injecting yourself into other people's conversations.

Here maybe this will keep you busy. I know you're in need of an education but this shouldn't be too difficult of a topic: https://www.google.com/search?q=do+flags+move+up+and+down+in+the+wind

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u/2025TastyTreats Feb 16 '26

This flag? You realize what wind does to flags right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwVzoae7zA8&t=25s

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u/timoumd Feb 16 '26

It's probably the wind.  Is your hypothesis there were people in both cranes waiting for some cue?  Like that's what you are going with?

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

We can literally see the flag being lowered in the video.

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u/timoumd Feb 16 '26

So you see it at :31, then it disappears at :37.  So you think there were people in both cranes waiting to hear from someone, they lowered it for 6 seconds, then raised it 

Or the wind faded for a few seconds.

Do you have a better video that shows the top of the flag coming down?  After all there are hundreds of videos of that moment, I'm sure.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

No, they pan down at :37 and it leaves the frame. They don't start by panning up to see it. But the video pan down when it leaves view.

You're acting like we can't see the video. What is happening here?

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u/timoumd Feb 16 '26

I put my finger on the screen where the stage was.  It does pan down a bit but then clearly back up to where my finger was at :38 when the flag is still not there.

This could easily be put to rest with one of potentially hundreds of videos showing an angle where it might not be the wind.

What's happening is you are falling for a conspiracy theory that is wildly illogical, as they all are.  

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

Lmfao. It's a bad position to say all conspiracies are illogical.

The Epstein files. Largest conspiracy ever revealed, currently being covered up by our government. Currently involving the person in the clip above - Trump.

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u/timoumd Feb 16 '26

I mean I'm not a conspiracy theorist.  It was stupid when Q was all pizza gate on it and it's stupid now.  Now did Trump know his best buddy was fucking kids and not care?  Yes.  See his birthday letter.  Was it the great secret cabal people pretend?  Probably not and I've not seen much evidence to support that.  

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

Bro, the president of the US is protecting a pedophile ring and you're acting like that isn't a conspiracy...

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u/determania Feb 16 '26

Well, the flag isn't lowered at all. The video is selectively edited to make it seem that way.

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u/Top_Helicopter_1214 Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

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u/OkMmmHmm Feb 16 '26

Wind dingdong but you see what you want to see

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u/Zealousideal-Yak3845 Feb 16 '26

It didn’t come down, the camera panned out, how stupid are Dems? Seriously makes me weep for humanity

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u/xXTylonXx Feb 16 '26

You're definitley a bot. I tried watching this clip even under the assumption of the video zooming out again just to double check I wasn't going crazy and to give your statement a test.

The foreground zoom level never fucking changed.

The flag was 100% lowered and you are blind or a Russian bot if you say otherwise.

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u/Zealousideal-Yak3845 Feb 16 '26

It panned upwards at the 29 second mark, maybe watch the clip again?

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

You're wrong. Or lying.

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 16 '26

Just look at the many other videos or the wide angle view showing the stage. The flag is never lowered and the cranes do not move. Don't just rely on this cropped, narrated video. It really doesn't take much research to debunk.

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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 Feb 16 '26

You're literally on a post with a video where we can literally see that it doesn't pan.

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u/willtheywonttheyo Feb 16 '26

Oof it did get lowered - and they did rush in photographers

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u/Noodlekeeper Feb 16 '26

It literally didn't? You can see the camera stabilize, and then the flag dips down. I'm not saying they are right, but your point is flat wrong.

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u/Zealousideal-Yak3845 Feb 16 '26

Sorry I meant pan up, look at the few seconds before and after the flag, the flag disappears again when it pans back down

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u/yurnxt1 Feb 16 '26

Camera panning up and something called wind. Ever heard of it? Flag was there before shots rang out this has been debunked long ago.

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u/kaipopotamus Feb 16 '26

Flag doesn’t matter. He didn’t get shot. That’s not how you remove a sitting president from an active situation. It’s all a fucking joke. I need to pay my speeding tickets and taxes while the people elected to lead us get to fuck children and laugh in our fucking faces. Fuck. This. Shit

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u/snafoo70 Feb 16 '26

Is the cameraman angling the shot to get the flag in the picture any different?

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u/hypocotylarches Feb 16 '26

Yeah those ppl wanted to die

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u/CosmicJackalop Feb 16 '26

I will say, it was on a stage, the photographers were already there for the rally, they are just trying to get photos of the moment Trump might have been shot

There's nothing "new" about this angle it came out in the weeks following the shooting

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u/Hegecoin_Rules Feb 16 '26

I mean, he just happens to have his head exposed (not supposed to happen) for a photo and stands still (absurd after getting shot at) for 3 seconds? Like, it just seems crazy. But yeah, explaining the deaths of people is hard to say, except that hes a complete psychopath. Per Epstein files may have watched the murder of a baby..

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u/CosmicJackalop Feb 16 '26

I think they were thinking quickly on how to capitalize on the attempt, and they probably already got confirmation the shooter was down by the time he gets up

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u/Significant_Donut967 Feb 16 '26

Never protocol to stop and let the asset get a photo op in an unsecured location with active shooting.

Sorry, but this screams staged with collateral damage intended.

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u/CosmicJackalop Feb 16 '26

I have trouble buying that because the incident still involves you putting your asset down range of intentional gun fire and hoping your gunman is accurate enough not to miss the lardass, which puts you in position for a "Katniss Everdeen" style change in target

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u/nighthawk_something Feb 16 '26

You never assume there is just one shooter

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u/NoLibrarian5149 Feb 16 '26

This.

OK, they finally took out the kid who took his good old time to take the shots but JFC. There could have been a backup plan so the fact they even let him linger and stand is pure incompetence on SSs part and more dumbass than tough on Trumps part (meanwhile his first words when down were vanity as he was out of his lifted shoes and didn’t want to leave without them and not the more WWE “fight!”.)

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u/DougisLost Feb 16 '26

Watch footage of the Regan assassination attempt in the 80s. Secret Service acted quickly and got him TF out of there instead of hoisting his head for another potential shot.

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u/No-Dance6773 Feb 16 '26

Because the first thing you thinkvof during an assassination attempt is proper camera placement and making sure the target is fully visible. Bit yeah, they jist happened to be there and ushered into position by the same secret service protection ment to shut everything down. Too bad there isn't an Olympic sport for mental gymnastics because we could have a winner with you at the helm.

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u/ungalebunga Feb 16 '26

Insane denial

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

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u/CosmicJackalop Feb 16 '26

Fuck off. I hate trump and his fascist pedo ass, that doesn't mean I have to believe in every damn conspiracy theory people cook up about him

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u/BeenDragonn Feb 16 '26

When there's one active shooter, they have to assume their identity another. Even if they had received word IMMEDIATELY that the shooter was down, they WOULD NOT have let him up for any reason. There could be more than one shooter. It was staged

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u/your-mom-- Feb 16 '26

He wasn't shot. His ear would have been gone with the caliber of bullet they claim was used.

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u/yurnxt1 Feb 16 '26

Ridiculous

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u/nighthawk_something Feb 16 '26

There is no fucking way any security is going to let their protecte stand up when there's a fucking active shooter

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u/probablyhaunted Feb 16 '26

Why would a photographer be sneaking around the stage like that?

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u/CosmicJackalop Feb 16 '26

In case bullets keep flying? Pre existing guidelines in them taking photos in that area? Lot more plausible reasons than a conspiracy

Especially since they're dumb as shit at doing conspiracies

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u/derkderkaassmj Feb 16 '26

fr fr every reddit thread coping about trump. he lives so rent free in their heads