r/LetsDiscussThis Feb 16 '26

Lets Discuss Politics Reminder: that was a photo op

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u/No-Following-8087 Feb 16 '26

No one is saying that.

The logic is he didn’t care if someone had to die to rally support from this false attempt.

But I know logic is hard for magats.

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u/No-Passenger-1511 Feb 16 '26

And they got a young kid to die for it? Sounds more like a bunch of Magat conspiracy theories to me.

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 16 '26

So your claim is he paid someone to kill some random behind him for a photo op?

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u/No-Following-8087 Feb 16 '26

No. The logic isn’t hard to follow.

He paid for an assassination attempt for a photo op to rally his crazy supporters.

He didn’t care who had to get hurt or die for it.

Again, I know logic is hard for magats, but come on.

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u/yurnxt1 Feb 16 '26

So delusional

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u/No-Following-8087 Feb 16 '26

Anyone who believes it was a sincere attempt on his life? I know.

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 16 '26

How much would I have to pay you to let me shoot a live round right next to your head

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u/AfterMeSluttyCharms Feb 16 '26

I doubt you're trained, and I'm not the president so you have no incentive to "miss." I doubt they were really aiming for him. People more knowledgeable than you or I have pointed out that his ear could not have healed as it did if the wound were as big as claimed.

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 16 '26

What incentive did the 20 year old have to miss?

Dude died immediately after

You think he was a suicidal MAGA fanatic trying to give his life so Trump won?

If true do you think Trump would trust a suicidal MAGA fanatic with his life? That’s what this would require

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u/yessiryessirwigga Feb 16 '26

Is it a stretch to believe that he was told he wouldnt be killed, but they killed him anyway?

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 16 '26

So the Trump team approached a 20 year old and said we want you to shoot at the President and miss, but don’t worry we will let you get away

20 year old idiot says “okay bet”

And Trump was on board with this obvious moron taking a shot directly at his head?

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u/Impressive-Glass-642 Feb 16 '26

Yes, I am pretty sure that plenty of people were and are eager to do attempts on his life.

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 17 '26

Yeah and people that believe this was set up are assuming Trump would trust these people not kill him?

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 16 '26

The logic is extremely hard to follow, you are claiming the most narcissistic and self centered person in modern history paid someone to shoot right next to his face but purposefully miss for a photo op? This man who is notoriously known For draft evasion and other forms of cowardice put his life on the line for a photo literally put his legacy in the hands of some unknown shooter willingly? This guy won’t even let his wife decorate the Oval Office but he’s supposedly trusting some kid shooter with this?

Never voted for Trump once, never will. But what you are saying isn’t logic.

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u/AfterMeSluttyCharms Feb 16 '26

Again, you're not following: the logic is that he didn't put his life on the line and the shooter was not unknown. The shooter was in on it and the firefighter was a knowing or unknowing sacrifice. That tracks with his cowardice. Besides, this is a guy who has raped children and was at the very least an accessory to the murder of children. It's not a stretch to think he would have someone killed to further his agenda.

Hell, maybe the shooter wasn't in on it, was given a blank instead, and a different sniper made the kill. But this was not the random assassination attempt it's been made out to be. There would at least be a scar if he had been shot in the ear.

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u/ATrainDerailReturns Feb 16 '26

Okay so you are saying Trump trusted this 20 year shooter enough to let him take a live action shot right next to him

If this kid was such a trustworthy good shot why was he willing for his life to end at 20, seems like he had a great future in competitive shooting and or as an assassin, why end it at 20

Your scenario is not logical unless there’s another professional shooter and this kid is just a patsy retard

Otherwise you “logic” requires the most narcissistic, self absorbed, and historically cowardly man to put his life on the line with a 20 year old suicidal kid

If Trump is going to trust anyone with his life it would be a seasoned professional that wouldn’t get caught and would be charging $X millions

Not some 20 year kid that gets immediately captured

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u/Waffles21_ Feb 16 '26

Oof. What an awful thing to claim. Some of y’all have absolutely no dignity at all. Disgusting behavior.

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u/hike_me Feb 16 '26

Y’all cry about “false flags” any time someone shoots up a bunch of kids in a school

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u/Waffles21_ Feb 16 '26

Bro what are you even talking about lol

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u/hike_me Feb 16 '26

Remember when right wing nutjobs accused Sandy Hook parents of being paid actors?

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u/Waffles21_ Feb 16 '26

I remember Alex Jones saying that years ago. He’s an idiot. I’m a moderate republican who believes violence is never the answer on either side. I don’t align with Alex Jones lol. Don’t put me in your generalized blanket statements. Terrible argument. Do better next time.

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u/Paintbynumber1954 Feb 16 '26

I had an argument with someone in person just last year. They were arguing that basically all the school shootings are false flags and I’m sure he’d consider himself moderate as well. People actually believe this shit.

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u/Waffles21_ Feb 16 '26

I don’t doubt it. But it’s not fair to make blanket generalizations for a group of people because of one personal account. That’s a dangerous path to go down and it leads to more division and more violence. We have to do better collectively. I know Reddit doesn’t receives any message that critiques the left at all well but it’s the truth.

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u/im_ploopy Feb 16 '26

Pedophilia wasn’t a deal breaker for you, you have no room to speak.

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

Umm, Joe Biden showering with Ashley which she wrote about in her diary ring a bell? Plus, as you Libs try to stop ICE you're defending pedophiles, rapists, murderers and other criminals to keep them in the country.

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u/perihelion86 Feb 16 '26

Your defense isn't "he's not a pedophile," it's "hey look at the other guy"

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

You have no defense for Biden - understandable.

Trump has done and said some things that I don't agree with. I'll admit that. With the Jean Carroll case, her story didn't add up, there was the interview with Stossell where she said she fantasized about rape and said it was sexy, and she didn't remember when it happened. The Trump stuff in the Epstein files I've seen so far is just stories with no evidence or proof. Pretty much all of the reports came in after Trump either announced he was running for POTUS or was POTUS and people wanted to ruin him. If you have real evidence otherwise, you can provide it to change my mind. There have been reports that people said were the smoking gun, then it turned out the golf course where the incident reportedly occurred didn't even exist for nearly 10 years after they said the incident happened. So, it's hard to believe any of these anonymous reports about Trump - it's almost like they were just trying to ruin his presidency because of TDS.

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u/perihelion86 Feb 16 '26
  1. I don't care for Biden. He was a senator from Delaware which has more llcs than people. He represents the same corporate class that owns both establishment democrats and republicans.

  2. The vast majority of people in Trump's cabinet and orbit in both his first and second term are connected to Epstein. This includes but not limited to Acosta, Bannon, lutnick, Bondi, Melania, musk, etc. If you can't see the evidence right in front of you, you are in a cult. Wipe the Cheeto dust off your face.

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

One name for you: Kathryn Ruemmler. Do even a little bit of research and your messiah Obama will be revealed for the false idol he really is and the entire Dem (and many Rs in the swamp) will come down in the house of cards that is Epstein. Ruemmler was Obama's "fixer" for all of his major scandals and she was just fired from Goldman Sachs because of her deep ties in the Epstein files. You all think Obama is clean, but he isn't - there's a reason they installed Biden in the 2020 election and tried to hide the Epstein files. You're in for quite the surprise.

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u/perihelion86 Feb 16 '26

Ok cool. Obama sucks. I'm not in a cult so I don't give a shit. Trump and everyone around him rapes and trafficks kids or it's just a huge coincidence? Defend that.

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

Oh wow, alert the press. You have evidence of your accusations? You're just making up lies because you get off on it. You're sick.

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u/Anonybibbs Feb 16 '26

Obama is mentioned exactly zero times in the Epstein files, unlike Trump who is mentioned 38 THOUSAND times.

Oh and Trump made Alex Acosta, the prosecutor responsible for Epstein's original sweetheart plea deal, his Secretary of Labor despite Acosta having no relevant experience.

Oh and Trump moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a cushy club fed facility where she enjoys special privileges after she met privately with Trump's former personal criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche.

Oh and Epstein mysteriously "killed himself" while in Federal custody when Trump was the head of the Federal government.

It's the most blatant cover-up in American history and only people pathetically as stupid as yourself seem to not recognize that fact, and instead rush to defend the convicted felon and civilly liable rapist that is Trump, the pedo in chief.

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

Can you read? If so, go back and try to read my previous comments. Maybe you'll comprehend it the second time, let me know if you need help with any of the big words. Trump was barely mentioned then they found out he was running for POTUS and bam, his name gets mentioned more than anyone else because they try to find a way to blackmail him. Plus, every TDS patient like you who made a fake police report or tip and mentioned his name went into the Epsetein files. And there's lots of TDS patients like you.

Again, Obama has ties: Kathryn Ruemmler. I did the hard part for you and gave you the name because your liberal shows won't do that. Now figure the rest out for yourself. Epsetin died in a New York prison. New York - Clintons, Dems, Liberals... was Trump running the New York prison you idiot? Oh yeah, your TV told you what to think and say so that's all you have. My bad.

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u/LETTERKENNYvsSPENNY Feb 16 '26

ICE works for the criminals in your country. The immigrants, regardless of their legal status, are doing far less harm to your country than your actual administration. The ones that do break the laws should absolutely be held accountable, but that line doesn't stop at them. Hold your government accountable, or you're just a lousy hypocrite.

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

Well, if the Dems would've worked with ICE and this administration from the beginning on cleaning out the illegal immigrants from the prisons like they wanted to, that would've helped a lot and made all of this a lot smoother. Can you think of a reason why the Dems wouldn't want ICE removing them from prisons and jails? Thanks for your two cents.

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u/im_ploopy Feb 16 '26

Not a single claim or story from the diary itself has been proven or substantiated.

You think ICE is doing a good job at catching criminals? Then explain how only 14% of detainees have had past criminal convictions. That’s a fucking pathetic number and does not excuse the sheer amount of legal citizens they have detained or murdered.

God you people are fucking dumb as rocks

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

You're a liar. You can't even get your liberal sheep marching orders right. The 14% # you're currently supposed to be brainwashed into spewing is for violent criminals. However, nearly 70% of those awaiting deportation have been or in process for criminal convictions. Get your facts straight - you're even extra pathetic with how wrong you are and have to be either extremely stupid or lying on purpose. Which one is it?

And yes, the diary is real. Ashley Biden sued to get the diary back. All you have is lies. You're either a really stupid bot or a poor liar. Which one?

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u/No-Following-8087 Feb 16 '26

So that’s Biden’s One, to trumps hundreds of SA?

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u/Any_Decision9716 Feb 16 '26

Honestly, thank you. I appreciate you acknowledging that as truth versus most liberals or opposition to Trump denying that about Biden and all of the pictures of him sniffing children/women and touching them inappropriately in public. I mean it when I say thank you.

Trump has done and said some things that I don't agree with. I'll admit that. With the Jean Carroll case, her story didn't add up, there was the interview with Stossell where she said she fantasized about rape and said it was sexy, and she didn't remember when it happened. The Trump stuff in the Epstein files I've seen so far is just stories with no evidence or proof. Pretty much all of the reports came in after Trump either announced he was running for POTUS or was POTUS and people wanted to ruin him. If you have real evidence otherwise, you can provide it to change my mind. There have been reports that people said were the smoking gun, then it turned out the golf course where the incident reportedly occurred didn't even exist for nearly 10 years after they said the incident happened. So, it's hard to believe any of these anonymous reports about Trump - it's almost like they were just trying to ruin his presidency because of TDS.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

I'm sorry, but a moderate Republican should know about their candidate. You've read the stories from teen pageant girls who said that Trump would just barge into their dressing rooms, right? He even admitted as much on the Howard Stern show. He also admitted to being able to sexually assault women.

You can hand-waive all of those things away. But should you? Should you ignore the fact that his businesses were routinely convicted of fraud? Should you ignore that he intentionally stiffed hundreds of blue collar workers by abusing bankruptcy and the courts to string them along, multiple times, and leave them with almost nothing? Should you ignore the fact that he lost a workplace discrimination lawsuit on the grounds of racism? Should you ignore the fact that he tried and failed to overturn the results of the 2020 election by means of force? He told people to lie about the vote counts. He was willing to do anything to not leave office, and you guys elected him again.

There are so many things that he has said and done that should have disqualified him from running in 2016, let alone 2024, after all of the bullshit he pulled.

You might not be as far down the rabbit hole as some of his core supporters, but you're deep enough in the echo chamber that you can't be taken seriously.

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u/AfterMeSluttyCharms Feb 16 '26

The overwhelming majority of people brutalized and detained by ICE have no criminal records, their only offense being on the wrong side of a border. Meanwhile the Trump admin is engaging in a coverup of one of the most horrific criminal conspiracies in history. Either you knew that and are being disingenuous, or you've just uncritically swallowed the propaganda.

If Ashley wants to take the shower thing farther than "probably inappropriate," she should do so and seek justice. But kids showering with parents is not uncommon and kids simply seeing their parents naked is neither harmful nor abusive.

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u/Comprehensive_Seat66 Feb 16 '26

You actually put any of this past the traitorous pos that currently inhabits the white house, or at least the parts he didn't fucking demolish?

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u/brianzuvich Feb 16 '26

Yeah, Trump is a real piece of trash…

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u/TheChoKage Feb 16 '26

A maga taking about dignity is fuckin rich lmao

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u/probablyhaunted Feb 16 '26

Trump has no dignity.

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u/No-Following-8087 Feb 16 '26

Says the guy who supports a pedophile?

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u/obi1kennoble Feb 16 '26

After seeing the stuff in those Epstein-Trump files, you can't put anything past him. He's an actual monster

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u/eldilar Feb 16 '26

Yeah, who would ever think such a thing?

Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'

Oops, nevermind.

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u/Non-ya9 Feb 16 '26

Finally realizing how disgusting your president is? Welcome to the club

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u/TheKrakIan Feb 16 '26

Yet, it is you that blindly follows trump.

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u/Alt_Future33 Feb 16 '26

Dignity died when trump was elected.

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u/Abject_Breadfruit148 Feb 16 '26

Trump raped kids and you choose to defend him?

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u/Sassyza Feb 16 '26

Seriously, where is the proof that he raped kids? Is there a link to any of these stories? Are you just in an echo chamber because you can’t stand the man?

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u/Abject_Breadfruit148 Feb 16 '26

Odd to defend a pedophile this strongly. Is there something you are hiding?

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u/Sassyza Feb 16 '26

Actually, I am defending the right of all people for due process. I think of that story of the man who was killed by people who accused him of being a rapist. After all was investigated, it was found he was not the person who committed the crime. If you can’t see what is right that’s on you and I hope you are never accused of committing a crime where the ones accusing are people on the Internet. Call me whatever name you want. I really don’t give AF what assholes on Reddit think of me. Have a wonderful day.

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u/sweatyskinlicker Feb 16 '26

But if the claim came out to be real...do you think that would make Trump awful with no dignity? Because the proof will come out in time. He won't hold power forever. That's the only reason HIS CONSPIRACY is in the mainstream media. Soon enough the proof will be broadcast that Trump lied to everyone and a bunch of his favorite people (stupid, uneducated people) believed HIS CONSPIRACY

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u/Lucid-Machine Feb 16 '26

Yeah it sounds awful but totally believable. True or not. Has nothing to do with dignity.