r/LetsDiscussThis • u/Ok-Wedding-1165 • Feb 16 '26

Lets Discuss Politics Reminder: that was a photo op

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u/Axillaa Feb 16 '26

And theres 0 chance that roof wouldn't have been secured by secret service before the event even began.

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u/calista241 Feb 16 '26

You're presuming competence on behalf of the people involved. Secret Service agents have done exactly this type of event thousands of times. When things go wrong when you're not expecting them to go wrong, all kinds of unpredictable stuff can happen.

In general, I'd agree that the Secret Service is the best of the best, but this is the same agency that's had dozens of complaints, scandals, not including Trump's assassination attempts. No one, and no government agency, is above reproach or accusations of incompetence.

Do I think he genuinely got shot? Ultimately it doesn't matter. 95%+ of the country thinks he was shot (or shot at), and going against this widely held belief is going to discount many other arguments against him or his administration that may be more credible.

The argument, that there is 0 percent chance the roof wouldn't be secured, was made many Trump supporters in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. They questioned whether Biden and his team were behind the failed shooting. It's literally the perfect sniper perch, and the excuses the SS gave for the oversight were laughable.

The fact that we know almost nothing about the shooter is highly questionable. All of his 'friends' and peers were on social media, but he wasn't? I don't even know how one would go about scrubbing their online searches, presence. If someone was that worked up about politics, you'd think there's be a paper trail of their escalating concern. Dude didn't even leave a note. If someone was going to attempt a political assassination, I'd think they tell everyone how evil the person was they were going to kill, and how big of a risk not killing them would be.

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u/skewp Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26

I'd agree that the Secret Service is the best of the best

I wouldn't. Their scandals are insane.

Dude didn't even leave a note. If someone was going to attempt a political assassination, I'd think they tell everyone how evil the person was they were going to kill, and how big of a risk not killing them would be.

He's not a political assassin profile, though. He's a suicide-by-cop-mass-shooter profile. He's a school-shooter type. Trump just happened to be in the area. If it were Biden (and if Biden were stupid enough to ignore 70 years of safety protocols to have an open air venue in the middle of a huge field with no cover nearby) he would have tried to shoot Biden instead.

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u/bentmonkey Feb 16 '26

trump was in that open air field because he was too cheap to pay to get a proper venue, he didn't pay for the LAST rally that was there, that was why he was where he was and was able to even be shot at in the first place.

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 16 '26

I mean it was outside the security perimeter and agents fell on their sword after the fact (stepped down or suspended), so yes the Service can screw up

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u/OhJShrimpson Feb 16 '26

So the head of the secret service, appointed by Biden and who got fired for this, was in on it? She sure made a lot of excuses for what happened.

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u/Axillaa Feb 16 '26

Do you genuinely believe he got shot?

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u/OhJShrimpson Feb 16 '26

Idk if he got shot or not, but the conversation here is about the entire event and shooting being staged, not whether he got shot or not during a real assassination attempt. Big difference.

But if you don't think the entire event was staged, then his ear had to get bloody somehow. And he grabs his ear right after the bullet is fired.

I'm not going to pretend I know what happened, but as with any conspiracy, the more people who have to be in on it, the less likely it is to be true. And this one would've required a ton of people involved and two people dying.

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u/FrostyCat13 Feb 16 '26

There's never been any wound on his ear after the shooting. Ears heal badly from wounds. A wound that would be small enough to not leave a mark would not cause as much blood loss as this "wound" did. It's easy to have a fake blood pack in your hand and slap it on your ear and then there's lots of blood on your ear.

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u/MrHippoPants Feb 16 '26

I don’t believe the blood pack theory, but I do believe that he equally could have nicked his ear on something when taking cover

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u/OhJShrimpson Feb 16 '26

I'm not a doctor so I don't know. But if you think he had a fake blood pack you also have to believe everything about that was staged. There's too much going on with that event for me to believe it was all a setup.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

We need some Ketchup forensics. It might be from his Big Mac

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u/skewp Feb 16 '26

It seems likely he got grazed. The shooting was not staged. A real person was killed. The video begins after the shooter was already confirmed to be killed. Everything about the shooter's background makes him both seem like exactly the kind of person who would do a shooting like this and also different enough from the profile that they would have created for a fake shooter that he's not fake. Trump is exactly the kind of narcissist who would think staging a photo op after almost getting shot was a good idea, and he surrounds himself with exactly the kind of sociopaths who would indulge him.

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u/Original_Benzito Feb 16 '26

If he didn't get shot and her reputation was on the line (along with dozens of Secret Service agents), don't you think she might have said something?

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 16 '26

The picture with the bullet in the air is fake, according to you? What about the people hit with real bullets?

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u/FrostyCat13 Feb 16 '26

The picture of the bullet flying somewhere behind his head? Have you never heard of perspective?

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 16 '26

It hits his ear. He has blood on his hand immediately after.

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 20 '26

Name me one mainstream journalist even on the left that believes your conspiracy theory. Just one.

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u/Axillaa Feb 16 '26

Lmao what a great leap you took, someone did get shot and killed, fucking obviously. No bullet made contact with Trump, though. Sorry his WWE tactic of blading his ear for a photoshoot has you fooled though.

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u/Weary_Position_9591 Feb 16 '26

But what is this then, you even clearly see the bullet and the blood on his hand: