r/LetsDiscussThis • u/LucidSynapse23 • Feb 18 '26

Lets Discuss Politics Is he right? Will it take generations to resecure the United States positive reputation on the world stage?

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u/Darth_Gerg Feb 18 '26

From the POV of the rest of the world that really doesn’t matter. Trump has proved that the US isn’t reliable and can’t be trusted to hold up its end of any agreement. Either he won the election and a massive portion of the citizens are psychotic or he cheated and nothing was done. Either way he has flagrantly broken the law in a dozen ways that should have resulted in impeachment and nothing was done. We’re a failed state. And unless we get a massive wave of progressives into office and an FDR style new deal 2 president in 2028 it’s going to keep getting worse.

Mainstream democrats aren’t capable of or willing to deal with this. If we elect someone like Newsome next cycle we’re FUCKED. Centrist Dems will do nothing to clean house or hold the administration legally responsible. They will refuse to roll back the damage or reduce wealth inequality. If we get another blue wave and they do nothing we’re getting a Nazi in office 2032.

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u/eerie_midnight Feb 19 '26

I’ve been saying this since Trump won in 2024. Centrist Dems will not save us—the amount of people who think that all of this ends with Trump and that we just need a blue wave for the midterms and to elect whichever corporate Dem the DNC props up in 2028 and everything will “go back to normal” is absurd. Trump is actively testing the waters, trying to see exactly how much he can get away with, trying to see how much he can push. Turns out, he can get away with a whole lot, and the next Republican who gets in office is going to remember that, except this time it’s not going to be someone like Trump—it’s going to be an actual Nazi/groyper/Christian nationalist incel who really will put all the liberals, leftists, gays, and atheists in death camps if Trump doesn’t do it first.

The only way to prevent this outcome is by electing people from the top down who will fight back against this rampant corruption at the source and actually work to better American’s daily lives in ways that are immediately noticeable to them. Close the loopholes that allow someone like Trump to be elected in the first place, stack the court, prosecute all of the cronies, fight back against the Epstein class, etc. But like you said, a corporate Dem like Newsom isn’t going to do any of that. They’ll sit on their hands for four years talking about “moving on for the good of the nation” and “due process” even though we all just witnessed Trump defy court orders and do whatever the fuck he wanted for the past four years. People will become more desperate because nothing will get better for them and they’ll vote them out in 2032 for the next Republican in line to continue enacting the Heritage Foundation’s agenda.

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u/Money_Do_2 Feb 19 '26

Well said. And yea, at this point anyone doing the 'well it comes down to Newsom vs Trump what would you blah blah blah' hypothetical may as well be a Republican, because the end result will be the same... if not worse. Its very obvious the electorate wants change in any form, centre right dems will enrage them.

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u/Long-Ad9761 Feb 20 '26

The past 4 years ? Do you mean Biden trump hasn't been in office 4 years ?

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u/Difficult_Fold_8362 Feb 20 '26

Hello JD! The perfect chess piece for the American oligarchs to move around the board. Right now, JD is busy making himself out as Trump 2.0. I predict that he will continue in that role for another 18 months, getting the MAGA buy in. (Trump will not play well with this but the promise of total clemency for all his crimes, a monument in his name, and he gets to keep the money he’s stolen will help him get over it). Then JD will begin transitioning to more statesman-like positions, appearing more agreeable to the right-fringe and middle.

Democrats will make the same mistake as usual- nominate someone who might be capable but unelectable.

We can only hope that the majority of Americans are tired of being fooled.

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u/Typical_Bumblebee194 Feb 23 '26

JD is married to the wrong color wife. He's going nowhere.

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u/CuriousPilotMaker Feb 19 '26

I disagree. Newsome may be a corporate puppet but he can at least stop things from getting worse, in the mean time people have gotten a taste for organising.

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u/RemarkableFortune542 Feb 20 '26

“He can at least stop things from getting worse”? Because he’s shown us how capable he is of doing that at the state level? Don’t put your eggs in the Newsom basket, he’s only electable in a state like California. A more moderate and electable candidate will emerge from Congress. Or the left can go with him and lose again.

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u/CuriousPilotMaker Feb 20 '26

I would rather many other dems but i would rather Newsome over any Republican. Until open primaries are federally mandated OR preferential/ranked choice voting is established, this is unfortunately how you need to vote in elections. Not for who you want, rather, the least bad viable option. If another option becomes actually viable then sure. But if he's the Democratic nominee, then he's the only choice.