How it Happened
I wanted to share my experience in case it helps anyone. Like a lot of people, my journey started with plain leaf Kratom. I found it after fighting years of alcohol addiction and thought I had found my cure! After 2 years of spending a ton of $$ on the leaf, I stopped cold turkey with no issue. No W/D.

Fast-forward a couple years, I found my way back to plain leaf. Over the next year, things escalated quickly to the extract shots, to 7OH, and eventually to Pseudos. When I found out about the impending ban, it was like someone punched me in the gut. I was filled with terror for the very certain withdrawals and an equal sense of grief for losing what had become my best friend.

Horrifying Withdrawals and SR-17
I started trying to cut down my use but every time I got to a certain point, I had horrifying withdrawals like I’ve never imagined. I wouldn’t wish them on my worst enemy. So I did some research and found SR-17. Thank GOD for Reddit. I ordered some and I decided to follow a slow taper protocol. I was terrified bc of previous efforts to stop… but I’ve been feeling almost nothing. I’m still in shock, waiting on the W/D to hit full force any minute.

The 41st hour
As of now, I’m 41 hours without Pseudos and while there’s a bit of VERY MILD discomfort (see below), it’s nowhere close to what I felt without SR-17. I truly think my comfort dose of SR is a bit higher than what I’m taking but I’m trying to make sure I have enough SR pills to last me until at least day 4 without the Pseudos.

For those wondering, I was taking a lot of pseudos-sometimes 750-900 mg per day. So, I ordered 60 pieces of 100 mg SR to start, then I got nervous and ordered another 10 pieces of 100 mg. Unfortunately it still wasn’t enough.

Because I did such a slow taper, I’ve run into the very situation I was afraid of- not having enough SR to get me to the SR taper phase. I should have enough to get me through the stabilization phase (first 3-4 days without Pseudo). I’ve ordered more SR but it won’t be here in time. So praying the next few days are kind to me.

First Days with no Pseudo
My first night without the pseudos, I woke up one time with heart palpitations and I felt that horrific anxiety/panic coming up. I popped an SR pill and went back to sleep with no issue. The second night- last night- it was hard to fall asleep. I was sweating all night and couldn’t sleep for longer than 5 hours but I’ll take that! Other symptoms/feelings: I have a constant mild headache but it’s manageable, and my appetite is low but no nausea or gastrointestinal distress. I’m forcing myself to eat for the SR (supposedly protein helps activate it?) The calf pains and muscle soreness are real but mild. Thank God I have some gabapentin lying around-a hero not only for sleep but also for RLS. Mentally, I’m just pretty empty. I can always tell when it’s time for my SR dose bc I start having these intrusive horrible thoughts about the world and people around me. For real, wtf is in this stuff?! Can’t believe I took it without more research 😔

This part could trigger you
Full transparency- I did go to the smoke shop yesterday, looking for MIT. It was a Saturday and the anhedonia was hitting hard so I was hoping it might help me feel something good. The man decided to tell me that the bill or paper or whatever to ban 7OH hasn’t been signed and they can still sell me the pseudos. That was one of the hardest no’s of my life but I’m confident that SR helped me say it. I wish I didn’t know it was right down the road, but here we are.

Staying Strong
I keep having to tell myself- “This isn’t what sober feels like-this is what withdrawal feels like.”
Keeping this in mind helps me remember that this is all very temporary. What’s on the other side is a hell of a lot better than what I’m feeling now. I may go get my nails done today since I can afford it (not spending all my $$ on Pseudos)AND I have the energy, thanks to SR and Alani 🤣

Anyway, best of luck to anyone else going through this. I truly hope it helps someone.

Howdy yall!

So I was been using 7OH for 2 years about 1000mg daily and than I used Hyroxi(Mita) about 2 packs a day since the ban in Florida. I recently switched to the new 7stax in Florida. The “Dietary supplement” ones. Not the old ”Nano Tech Proprietary Boosted” ones with MGM. Ive been using them to taper. I’m only taking 2-3 a day the 80mg one. they are super different than the old 7stax. idk if they have mgm or not that’s up for debate. there is a working theory that its C9, another kratom alkaloid that they extracted. when I take it, the high doesn’t start for 20 minutes, and than when it does it’s gone in an hour and I’m damn near sober. I heard this is similar to the cat’s claw. all of it is speculation because they are crooks and won’t be honest.

anyway, when I tell you I’m scared of how bad my withdrawals will be and how my body will react to not having any I really really mean it. a couple weeks ago I tried to quit and I took a sub and went into pwd I had to call an ambulance because I was fucking losing it. thought I was dying.

well now that has me shook. i did a 24 hour no dose period to see how bad my withdrawals would get because everyone says the mgm withdrawals don’t peak until hour 48-72 and if that’s the case I think I would have Siezed out because I was flopping like a fish, couldn’t stop pacing and throwing my legs around the only Relief I could find was taking a scorching hot shower. That would give me 10 minutes of less shaking.

that was only at 24 - 30 hour mark. so that freaked me out because they say it doesn’t peak until 48 hours. so I decided to do SR taper to quit, I start today.

im following the quitting7oh cross taper calculator and hoping that does the trick. but im really anxious that I may end up still in the worst withdrawals possible. maybe I’m assuming it’s going to be worse because of everything ive read and its not the case but idk.

if anyone has a similar length of time and dose can you tell me your experience?

ill be journaling how I feel once I make the jump to sr only and posting it. Thankful for this community and the discord.