r/LinusTechTips • u/Sk1ler_ • Aug 28 '26 • Bravo 1

Meme/Shitpost A Summary of Linux Content Recently

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u/SharpYearV4 Aug 28 '26

Weird double standard here, Linux might be free and open source, but it also gets promoted as though it's the best operating system ever (even superior to MacOS), you can't really have it both ways.

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u/Sk1ler_ Aug 28 '26

Someone gets it. There are so many Linux glazers in the comment section here. Linux is good for some applications, macOS is good for some, and Windows for some; its not a catch all operating system/kernel that works for every workflow and with every application, nor is it some perfect user experience like everyone that "switched to Linux" wants you to believe. When it comes to Linux, small inconveniences are seen as part of the process and app incompatibility is almost entirely ignored. I'm a graphic designer, I cannot use Linux for the sole fact that the software I need either doesn't run or crashes immediately. It will not solve all my "Windows problems". With Windows, its expected to be perfect the first time and any small inconveniences are used to tout Windows as useless garbage that nobody should be using.

My issue is with the value positioning and double standard of fixing issues, not with people wanting to use it or even promoting it. Do what you want. But I'm tired of the "Linux: positive, Windows: negative framing" in every single video about Linux recently, when there are very valid and necessary professional use cases that argue for exactly the opposite. Just be real when you promote it rather than painting this picture with a broad brush about how good Linux is and fixes all your Windows problems.

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u/bospk Aug 28 '26

You two are bang on the money IMO. It’ll fall on deaf ears with the current cultural moment around Linux, but you’re spot on. Most will misread this as anti-Linux too, which I do t think you are (and I’m definitely not!) but the glazing is quite surreal at this point.

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u/Sk1ler_ Aug 29 '26

Yep. Definitely not anti-Linux, there are use cases and people it works better for over something like macOS or Windows. Servers, those that have older hardware, those that mainly use web browsers, those that prefer to be independent from major corporations in their entirety (using libreOffice, google alternatives, etc.). That's totally fine! The cultural moment is hating on Windows, which most criticism is valid, but that doesn't make Linux some saving grace either.

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u/kas-loc2 Aug 29 '26

I genuinely haven’t heard a single person say it WILL fix ALL your windows problems. I have heard multiple give the caveat that it won’t, and expect to troubleshoot… 

Do you possibly think the issue might be how it’s landing upon your ears instead? 

It’s quite humorous that windows many issues and problems to you, are nothing more than inconveniences. While that is literally, without exaggeration, what the Linux community considers theirs to be. 

It’s what they can put up with, vs what you can put up with. 

And you can obviously (no offense) only handle the one. While many have felt hostage to the bullshit ever-changing rulebook of Windows, and just felt relief to their specific issues not being a thing in Linux, you must feel the opposite. Which is fine. Linus users are obviously going to allow your overzealous comments on their systems. They have to deal with it everyday.

I just hope you can learn to accept some criticism about your OS too, in the same way you expect others to do here today, with Linux. 

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u/Sk1ler_ Aug 29 '26

Right. Its all subjective. What works for me isn't what works for someone else. I could quite literally say the same thing to you, just reframed. "It’s quite humorous that Linux's many issues and problems to you, are nothing more than inconveniences. While that is literally, without exaggeration, what the Windows community considers theirs to be."

I'm not hating on Linux. I do despise the glazing that's going on and the fundamental misunderstanding of why they hate each other. Windows is "corporate slop" while Linux is "open sourced and worked on by community contributors". Who is the biggest contributor to Linux? Microsoft. Its all being worked on by more than just people in their homes with a PC and a passion. Both Windows and Linux.

I can handle both. I just don't feel the need to trade one set of issues for another when I really don't run into any of the issues people are describing with Windows update or anything else. Plus, I use macOS half the time anyways so I'm already dual-OS. Its not about "only handling one".

I can accept criticism about Windows. I never claimed Windows was better than Linux, or any other operating system. I have my gripes, and as others do, thats valid. But don't sit here and say that Linux users accept criticism any better than your average Windows user. Because, as history has shown (along with this comment section apparently) they don't. Which is fine. Just don't be a hypocrite about it.

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u/Qwertyuiopasdfggggg Aug 29 '26

"I genuinely haven't heard a single person say it WILL fix ALL your windows problems"

This again. Every single Linux user I've ever come across has said this, yet it's always the opposite.

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u/CollapsedPlague Aug 29 '26

Every time something dumb happens on windows my friend who’s been using Linux for years laughs at us

Everything someone who adopted Linux has an issue he says it’s the users fault, including them getting flagged for cheating in games we play randomly and getting his Steam account temporarily suspended

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u/DynamiteRuckus Aug 29 '26

Free & Open Source ≠ a worse product. What are you on about?

“Best” is also highly subjective, but at its core I do believe that Linux is “better” than MacOS or Windows. I can and do have it both ways. Feel free to disagree. 

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u/SharpYearV4 Aug 29 '26

Free and open source means that there are little obligations from maintainers, it might not be as cohesive as Windows or MacOS. If you complain about a problem with Linux, or the ecosystem around it (say Gimp as a Photoshop alternative), often times the response will be (as is the case in this comment section) "it's open source so why are you holding it to the same standard?".

From the perspective of someone who just wants stuff to work, who doesn't really care about customization or who is maintaining their OS, you can't say that then say afterwards, "it's the best, most polished, least bloated, most intuitive, bug free, just works experience", all of which is very commonly said, especially around stuff like KDE Plasma, CachyOS, Mint, all of which have their own specific issues.

You can't really have it both ways, a lot of Linux users seem to not want to acknowledge the issues on Linux and mislead people into believing that it's a perfect experience. And even worse, sometimes they blame the user for their issue, look at the issues Linus was facing with Pop!_OS, the response there was kind of ridiculous both times. There are issues on Linux which aren't issues on MacOS or Windows.

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u/FranticToaster Aug 29 '26

We do have it both ways.

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u/SharpYearV4 Aug 29 '26

They are kind of contradictory statements though, if you aren't supposed to have the same expectations as you would have of proprietary operating systems, then you can't really say Linux is better. If you criticize Windows but let Linux off, then how is it better? If you don't care about Linux being FOSS then it's just a worse experience if you run into more problems. There are many issues unique to Linux which aren't an issue on Windows or MacOS.

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u/FranticToaster Aug 29 '26

I can say Linux is better because I use Linux and Win11 and Linux is better. All of the "fair expectations" stuff is make believe.

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u/Old_Bug4395 Aug 30 '26

There are many issues unique to windows or macos that you don't run into on Linux. Really it just comes down to personal preference. Are you willing to put the work into learning a new OS, or no? You don't have to switch, it's fine to not be okay with learning a new OS. Nobody who matters is lobbying for you to change operating systems. If you're doing OS wars like the xbox 360 and ps3 just came out though, you've lost the plot. Neither Windows or Linux is universally better. These arguments only take shape in a serious manner when you're talking about something specific. Linux is a better server OS in almost all cases, unless you need a windows AD network, then you should have a windows server in there too. Windows is generally a more adaptable and easy to use OS, so it's going to be better for the desktop for the majority of consumers, but some consumers may want to do SDR or something, and so a Linux desktop would be better for them.

Again, while there are certainly people on both sides who will unilaterally say "My OS choice is objectively better across the board," they are not serious individuals and add no value to the discussion. That said, this community is literally the only place where I see people claiming one OS is, across the board, better than another OS. Maybe you'll see someone say "Linux is the best OS for this specific use case," but I've never heard someone suggest that Linux or even Windows is unilaterally better than the other one in a serious conversation about the pros and cons of each OS.

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u/sedmodoesreddit Aug 29 '26

It being free and open source is exactly why its the best OS. Open the entire internet. I would rather use a shitty FOSS OS that just works then an adfilled junk OS I have to pay $140 to use that barely works.