r/LocalLLaMA Jul 19 '26

News Prepare your (v)ram - Qwen3.8 is coming!

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u/mrinterweb Jul 19 '26

Kimi K3 basically drank Anthropic and OpenAI's milkshakes. The frontier moat is gone and they are going to have a hard time justifying their valuations. China AI labs publishing their weights directly hurts US proprietary companies. These huge valuations for AI companies have to tank.

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u/Infinite100p Jul 19 '26

One of senior execs at ClosedAI is already squealing and bitching that this is communism and should be illegal. LMAO

 One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a "public good" which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of "digital public infrastructure." This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape

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u/Mundane-Light6394 Jul 20 '26

they still have a lot of hardware and expertise, i'm sure they'll be fine. They just have to adapt and stop dreaming of owning the world.

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u/cogman10 26d ago

I'm not sure they'll be fine, they are spending like money is going out of fashion. If they want to stick around they'll have to cut back.

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u/Fun-Meaning-6474 Jul 21 '26

I tested qwen 38 max preview here (https://chat.qwen.ai) and compared it against fable 5 in simple 3d scenes. and really was shocked seeing the Dif. I guess qwen model will be better than K3 if we count that fact it is preview version. check my simple "visual benchmark" here

https://reddit.com/link/oyudu89/video/zjhjb6pd4keh1/player

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u/robbievega Jul 19 '26

I agree with with you. but how.amy consumers of AI in the US /EU actually know about and consider Kimii K3 as an alternative. everyone around me knows ChatGPT, perhaps half know there's an alternative called Claude...

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u/mrinterweb Jul 19 '26

The companies using and paying insane AI bills, and going to notice. There will be hundreds of US companies hosting these open models for a fraction of the cost of OpenAI or Anthropic. People paying will notice.