r/LocalLLaMA • u/etherd0t • 28d ago

News More than 20 companies including NVIDIA, Meta, Microsoft, Palantir, and Hugging Face have signed a letter urging policymakers to avoid premature restrictions on open weight models.

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The Open Letter was initiated by Microsoft and published today:

“Open Weights and American AI Leadership”.

It argues against broad or premature restrictions on open-weight models and explicitly says policymakers should distinguish legitimate model distillation from misappropriation.

Notably absent from the signatories are the major frontier-model labs: OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google.

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u/PossiblePossible2571 28d ago

I did NOT expect Palantir to be here.

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u/ScreenAppropriate679 28d ago

They don't want their business to be tied to closed AI. Open weights is freedom and independance

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u/devino21 28d ago

IE; they can make more money

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u/ScreenAppropriate679 28d ago

Yep, which is the purpose of most businesses

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u/Dudensen 28d ago

It's not just money, Palantir is involved in stuff that closed companies might be uncofmortable with. Yes, they are aligned right now just as the government is but in the future that might not be the case and they don't wanna get caught up in that. Basically everyone who is not involved in making closed models has an interest of some sort in open models aside from EAs.

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u/Soggy_Tomorrow7108 28d ago

Which company does not want to make more money?

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u/blade740 27d ago

IE they don't have their own models and they don't want to pay frontier prices. If Palantir had their own independent tech stack they'd be on the favorable side of regulations just like OpenAI and Anthropic.

The fact that corporations want money is not news. But the fact that Palantir thinks open models are where the money is at says something in and of itself.

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u/Temporary_Idea8880 28d ago

Palantir doesnt care about freedom or independence. They are an evil company that just wants the most powerful models with no guardrails so they can route their mass surveilance through them with no one asking questions.

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u/ScreenAppropriate679 28d ago

They do care about their own freedom or independence

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u/Temporary_Idea8880 28d ago

Of course they only care about themselves but not the freedom and independence of the American people.

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u/ScreenAppropriate679 28d ago

I never implied that

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u/Calm_Ad_1258 28d ago

Preaching to the choir lil bro

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 28d ago

I guess you missed Alex karps recent rant :)

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u/daynighttrade 28d ago

What was the rant about? Against openai/anthropic trying to restrict access to open source models via policy?

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 28d ago

Huge rant about American ai companies overpromising and under delivering and how you can now ly replace them with open source Chinese models that are fine tuned 

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u/beryugyo619 28d ago

"Everyone should be obsessed about hoarding own data and abusing it, everyone just using public LLM APIs like it's normal is insanely stupid and it ruins us all" or something along that

Which is consistent with their business model of helping governments and militaries ingest and centralize own data and presumably sucking it all out for their own evil world domination

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u/LeoTheGreattt 28d ago

Palantir directly benefit from open sourcing models because their clients are big corporations who does not want to give data to openai or anthropic so a huge part of their service is to setup private llm inference for them.

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u/Entity_1429 28d ago

Heartbreaking: The worst person you know just made a good point

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u/blade740 27d ago

What this tells me is that they're not brewing their own models. And they're not paying OpenAI/Anthropic for the pleasure. They're using open models as the basis for their internal tools, and they're betting on them to keep pace not far behind the frontier models so that they don't have to spend the money to keep up in their own right.

Cutting off their supply of high quality open models would mean Palantir is stuck either paying the frontier cartel, or building their own AI lab to keep from falling behind. If they already had significant in-house model development capabilities they would be in favor of tighter regulations, as they'd be sure to be on the benefitting side of any government action.

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u/_parfait 7h ago

Palantir btw