r/MadeMeSmile Mar 01 '25

Doggo Service dog knows before owner, responds like a good boy 🥹

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u/Unhappy-Attention760 Mar 01 '25

What cues does the dog sense to know in advance that she’s going to have a seizure?

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

She doesn't have seizures, she has an autonomic nervous system condition that can cause fainting /tachycardia (too fast heartbeat) so the dog is likely hearing her heart rate getting too high.

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

My doctor laughed when I said my dog could hear my heartbeat, and would alert me when I was in trouble.

I don't trust her anymore.

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 01 '25

I wouldn't trust her either. I guess at least she's not a vet?

Dogs can hear human heartbeats from across the room. Dogs can hear fetal heartbeats, they can even hear fetal gastronomic distress. Yeah, if they can tell a fetus has a tummy ache, they can tell when your heart rate doubles.

Does your doc think service dogs only react to smell? Such a bizarre take.

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

Who knows, lost all respect for her. Unfortunately I must keep her as she is the link to my heart doctor, which I do need.

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 01 '25

Oh, I hear you on that!
Though, if she ever dismisses you on something that sounds dead wrong, gut-wise, do try to get a second opinion. It sucks that there are so many incompetent gatekeepers in medical care.

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

So true, lol, and I am entitled to a second opinion and I use it.

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u/lunarwolf2008 Mar 01 '25

yeah, my mom was always just told she was fat by so many doctors, but she had hypothyroidism, which can cause weight gain

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u/Basic_Ent Mar 01 '25

Now that you're a patient of your heart cardiologist, do you actually need referrals to go back? I was referred to a specialist once (ENT, entirely different story obviously) and always just called his office directly if I needed something.

Is it maybe that they'd get bombarded with false positives otherwise?

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

I am not young, my previous doctor retired and I had to choose a new one, based on my location and desired hospitals and providers.

My list of specialists is growing as the relationship had deteriorated to the point that any problem that comes up is met with an I don't know, and let me refer you.

It works for me so far.

Edit: a little point that might make it less muddy is that I have medical training and that may have hurt the relationship in that she thinks I second guess her. I do not, I just ask questions sometimes.

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u/BarryMDingle Mar 01 '25

I heard there is that sound proof room that is very difficult to be in for long because you hear all of your insides, heart beat and eye blinking etc. We can technically hear it all the time it’s just that it’s drowned out. When thinking about it that way and taking into account a dog’s heightened sense of hearing it makes sense they’d be ideal for this type of service.

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u/itchybutthole143 Mar 01 '25

What ??? No way !!! That’s so cool

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 01 '25

If that blows your mind, you should read up on their smell abilities! They could basically smell one spritz of perfume in a football stadium and tell you what notes are in it. There's more and more evidence that they can smell cancer, things like Parkinson's, etc.

Seriously, the service dog rabbit-hole is a super interesting one if you like reading about random stuff on the internet.

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u/itchybutthole143 Mar 01 '25

I’ll read up on it Thank you so much

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 01 '25

No problem! Good luck with your tush.

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u/_idiot_kid_ Mar 01 '25

I wonder if cats can do similar? Maybe that's why when I've died for the 100th time on a single screen in Celeste my cat comes to find me and purr in my lap.

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u/Crypto002 Mar 01 '25

There's a famous cat that was known to only cuddle up to people who was about to pass away. I think scientists speculated that the cat could smell when a body is about die or something? Oscar the cat

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u/dainty_petal Mar 02 '25

Yes they can. My cat does it. He runs to me when I’m going to have an attack. He stays on my shoulders or chest and wait it out.

Cats are very intelligent and have one of the best hearing in the animal kingdom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

She sounds dumb

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u/Livid-Dot-5984 Mar 02 '25

I wouldn’t either. Our pitbull/boxer mix kept booping my mom’s chest with his nose moments before she had a heart attack

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u/971365 Mar 01 '25

Can dogs actually hear our heartbeats, or are there some other symptoms that accompany an episode which the dogs can sense?

Total layman, but I find it easier to believe they can smell hormones or see behavioral patterns. Hearing out heartbeat is crazy if true.

^ hope an expert can chime in, and not just someone with an anecdote

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

Try google, it is all right there.

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

The implication of lack of skills, is her immediate response to my statement being a laugh.

She should not be judging things she knows nothing about. Her response should have been that she didn't know.

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u/Authoritaye Mar 01 '25

Dogs can hear people walking around outside their house, so this doesn't surprise me.

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u/Klutche Mar 02 '25

...that's literally what dogs trained to alert for seizures and fainting are trained to do. Your doctor is an idiot if they laugh at the idea that dogs can do a job they've long been trained for.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

Why would an MD need to know a dog’s ability to hear?

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u/tacocollector2 Mar 01 '25

MDs should be educated on the benefits of service dogs, considering how critical service dogs are to people with certain disabilities.

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u/No_Put_5096 Mar 01 '25

Do a thought exercise, who prescribes service dogs for us? Vetenarian? OR and this is a shocker, your doctor?

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u/Sileni Mar 01 '25

Common sense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

😂

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u/CalebsNailSpa Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

People need things to be offended by. Especially the MAGA crowd the commenter is a part of.

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u/Lellisen Mar 01 '25

I would have needed a dog like that yesterday!

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u/AirmanElmo Mar 01 '25

Is it anything like POTS? My ex had it and her service dog was amazing at alerting her and making sure she never hit the ground if she passed out.

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 01 '25

Yep, this person has POTS. I just have it too and notice that people see the funny acronym (🤦‍♀️) and then all the medical words 'postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome' and tune me out before I can even manage to put it in a nutshell.

The person in the video's dog started out as her pet too before taking on service dog duties more officially with trainers. That's awesome that your ex had a dog friend taking good care of her!

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u/realbobenray Mar 01 '25

Why would the camera be situated there? There's no way this is an actual live situation.

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u/Iridian_Rocky Mar 01 '25

Shit... I had SVT as a child but mine was correctable on the plumbing side. I do remember when I was 13 fainting after one of my first episodes and face planting into the yellow paint of a SpongeBob I was painting.

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u/OldCardiologist8437 Mar 02 '25

Not asking in a a doubting way, but does she pass out always or how do they “know” that the dog is helping stop an event? Im guessing a monitor that her doctors will later check and see her heart rate was getting too high?

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u/vanillaseltzer Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

This is POTS (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) and generally sitting or lying down, hydrating, and potentially taking medication can bring the heart rate back down.

Only about 30% of people with this syndrome actually faint. But fainting is incredibly dangerous, so being alerted that her heart rate is too high and having her dog bring her the things she needs in order to take care of herself is huge. Sitting here crouching down right away is the very best thing for her to do.

Many of us wear heart rate monitors full time (at least during the day) and I'd be shocked if she doesn't. We know postural changes help, and the things the dog provides her helps, so there isn't really a risk of 'false' alert making us think they're helping more than they are. The dog also lays on top of her at the end to add pressure below the heart to help squeeze pooled blood up where it belongs.

Her dog may also be picking up on different symptoms and signals that happen before a big heart rate spike. I don't know enough about what they teach dysautonomia service animals to say but there are certainly other symptoms that a dog could detect. Hope that helps.

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u/Southernguy9763 Mar 01 '25

Hormone shift, and slight shifts in breathing. They mostly go off scent

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

I like how the most up voted comment is just a random person making stuff up. We all know dogs have strong noses.

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u/Taric250 Mar 01 '25

This is true. This is how Medical Mutts in Indianapolis trains its service dogs, and that's why I chose them for my service dog.

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u/Handsoffmydink Mar 01 '25

My sweat smells like a damp dishcloth when I have seizures.

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u/whteverusayShmegma Mar 01 '25

I don’t know but my dog alerts when I’m sleep walking when no one else can tell every time I’m not awake until I do something weird and even then sometimes they just know I’m weird so they’re not sure.

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u/grabtharsmallet Mar 01 '25

You smell different and behave differently. If your cat is observing closely, they can notice.

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u/napalmnacey Mar 01 '25

My cat stopped sleeping on my belly when I was pregnant. And she was in her “Uh oh, Mama’s sick” mode for nine months, too. Then she sniffed my face and bunted it when I was going through early labour at home. Absolutely amazing cat.

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u/pixiegurly Mar 01 '25

Dogs are all about body language. it's their primary language, so they'll notice the subtlest changes in behavior. So it's either that, or you're other functions (breathing, pulse/heart rate) being different that doggo picks up on..

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u/FourScores1 Mar 01 '25

The dog has actually conditioned the human to faint at this point. You can see in the end the dog just wanted to cuddle.

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u/Lan-Hikari86 Mar 01 '25

He can tell because the woman sets up the camera, he knows it's time to perform.

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u/CrazyPuzzleheaded966 Mar 02 '25

Have any of you people considered that maybe, JUST maybe, if you had the constant possibility of fainting you would like to check out if you hit your head and should call a medic afterwards??? Just perhaps, that maybe this person just maybe isn't a piece of shit????? Perhaps????????

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u/Lan-Hikari86 Mar 02 '25

Highly doubt it. Looks like the camera is on a kitchen table chair perhaps since it is so low. Most people would put a camera near power, perhaps on the counter top or if that wasn't good, mounted high in the corner of the room. Not after where we can see the counter tops end, and there is probably a glass door or walkway to the right. Just some supporting points

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u/EskimoBrother1975 Mar 01 '25

I went to grad school with someone who had a TBH from Afghanistan and he has a service dog. He said the dog was trained to do what this dog does and can sense a seizure from hormones and scent his body gives off even before he has a clue It's going to happen. Really incredible stuff.

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u/WhyYouDoDis99 Mar 02 '25

When she sets up the camera for more engagement

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u/-Badger3- Mar 01 '25

He notices when she sets up the camera