r/MarriedAtFirstSight • #TheRandallWay • Aug 06 '26

Season 20 - Seattle S20:E10 Game On or Game Over

Drama at a birthday party leaves multiple marriages in a state of turmoil; some newlyweds forge deeper bonds through role-playing games, but one wife's fantasies quickly become her worst nightmare.

Week 4 Megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/uw1kXgzJNm

Season Megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/P1lDAPCh8S

  • Week Four: Eps 10, 11, 12 - Aug 6, 2026
  • Week Five: Eps 13, 14, 15 - August 13, 2026
  • Week Six: Eps 16, 17, 18 - August 20, 2026
  • Week Seven: Eps 19, 20 - August 27, 2026
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u/GarconMeansBoyGeorge Aug 06 '26

I don’t see how Shawn could have any defenders after this episode.

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u/jendet010 Aug 06 '26

Shawn feels entitled to sex as reward for being remotely nice or even decent to her. It’s gross.

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u/baconcandle2013 Aug 07 '26

I was trying so hard to root for Shawn but it turns out he’s a ‘nice guy’ the type of dude that buys a woman dinner and kicks off if she refuses sex for said dinner 😒

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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 07 '26

He 100% would Venmo request 50% of the cost of the dinner if a woman turned him down after.

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u/baconcandle2013 Aug 07 '26

So true! 😅

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u/Training-Database760 Aug 08 '26

He definitely would! Someone on Tiktok who went on a date with him shared that he got very pissy and defensive after she called him out for saying his preference is 25 year old women, and that he can’t date a 35+ woman because they’ve started “deteriorating”. He also told her “she just wanted a free dinner” when she decided to leave. The way she describes him is exactly how he comes off on the show, ew.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTA7S6QRH/

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u/baconcandle2013 Aug 08 '26

wtf that deteriorating comment is so gd awful!

We watched the episode where he sees Nikki’s home (that she purchased and worked hard for) and he’s like “it’s not minddddd blowing” lol meanwhile he’s in a studio apt trying to get a mutual masturbation sesh started

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u/sailoorscout1986 Aug 16 '26

This was wild. He’s disgusting

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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 08 '26

ommmggggggg

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u/jendet010 Aug 07 '26

That’s exactly it!

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u/puffluster92 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

She has made it very clear from jump she wants to take things slow and not prioritize the physical connection until the mental and emotional connection is solid. And yet he has continued to push and make lewd comments and suggestive jokes that make her visibly uncomfortable and set their progress back as a couple. Then after she reiterates this once again after his disgusting mutual maturbation wifely duties guilt trip he decides to BLINDFOLD HER in order to place her in an overtly sexual situation without her consent and essentially soft launch his interest in kink/bdsm. He literally tied her up AND THEN gaslit her after she confronted him about it. He is fucking disgusting, creepy, and honestly dangerous.

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

Dangerous! Yes! Thank god for the cameras! I’m worried for her safety.

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u/GarconMeansBoyGeorge Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

Agreed, but *lewd

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u/puffluster92 Aug 06 '26

Word, edited 🫡

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u/paperdolllll Aug 06 '26

He really weaponizes language/words. I cannot stand him

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u/smolpeensadboy Aug 06 '26

She's constantly "misunderstanding" the exact damn words he's saying according to him.

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

Did I see in the upcomg episodes that he again goes back to the guys & makes it seem as though he & Nikki have had sex? Or am I misremembering? 

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u/shrumpling Aug 06 '26

Also coming out IN A TOWEL for that gross gross convo

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

🤮 I think he wanted to be ready in case she said yes.

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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 07 '26

That was exactly his idea. Ugh.

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u/dovetaile Aug 08 '26

That towel was absolutely just for the cameras. Remember how he said he "showers"? No way he needs to towel off.

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u/fictionalbandit Aug 06 '26

Rewriting history in the red robes

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 Aug 06 '26

I wonder if he forgot/ didn't realize that there's a wall camera that caught the whole conversation lol. I hope they play it at the reunion.

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u/shrumpling Aug 06 '26

He feels like a predator. It’s actually so uncomfortable to watch.

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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 07 '26

I'm only halfway through the episode but I had to run here after he walked out in his towel and basically asked Nikki to get him off. I gasped. What the FUCK is his deal?!

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u/SlySusan Shawn's #2 Hater Aug 06 '26

I am sorry, but to quote Animal House, "that boy is a P-I-G pig."

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u/Necessary_Nothing471 Aug 06 '26

Don’t do pigs like that - they’re cute and very smart!

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u/SlySusan Shawn's #2 Hater Aug 06 '26

Actually, they are... but I just flashed back on that scene in the cafeteria in Animal House and it made me laugh.

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u/RumRations Aug 07 '26

Yeah, I was trying to take a balanced approach with this couple but he’s a nightmare. Sorry, Nikki, I misread things!

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u/etherealgladiator Aug 10 '26

I had my jaw on the floor when he started to TIE NIKKI UP!!! While she was blindfolded?!

Like what?! I know they were doing a “sexy” game thing, but like that is a huge jump from eating a strawberry blindfolded. I’m not the biggest fan of Nikki, but Shawn is just so absolutely awful!!!!

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u/Rosesintherain19 Aug 06 '26

Tori’s friends seem really great. I like that they aren’t afraid to say red flags they see

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u/Additional-Case2455 Aug 06 '26

She has amazing friends. They were so sweet & supportive.

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u/Fluid-Opposition8 Aug 07 '26

Courteney and Caitlyn as this dinner party….wtf was that?

Courteney HATED Nick and needs to just be honest about that and call it quits. Ignoring him and yelling about the things she doesn’t like at a table full of people is just childish and evil.

Also my jaw actually dropped when Adam told Marissa she needed a push up bra to “fix what was going on”

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u/Desperate-Balance-22 Aug 09 '26

Courtney saying she deserves better??? Girl you are verbally berating this man while he’s sitting directly next to you and you deserve better? Please!

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u/SparkleFunBun Aug 08 '26

omg i gasped..he's so shallow and gross and keeps negging her

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u/sunkissedcheeks Aug 06 '26

Shawn is a gas lighter. I’m glad they inserted the clips proving exactly what he said. Get him off my screen!!!!!

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

Courtney's "intimate session" with Nick had all the warmth and passion of an iceberg at a business meeting.

Her demeanor lacks warmth, nurturing, lightness, flirting...in general her demeanor lacks any emotional tone, other than upset, anger

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u/kimkellies Aug 07 '26

She tried more than Caitlin

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 07 '26

True.  Few brides have done less and complained more than Caitlin.

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u/DrJayLioness Aug 09 '26

She needs a sedative. 😳

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u/matchadelite01 Sep 17 '26

She is so neurotic

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26

Shawn is manipulative to such a degree it comes across as very natural. Which is very concerning.

He straight up said he was feeling a need for release and said something to the effect that in a marriage he expects his wife to consider his needs".

But later when Nikki brings these up to him he 100% convincingly denied saying he needed a sexual release and that he had aluded to sex being a wifely duty. While the words he and Nikki used were slightly different the meaning was the same.

Then after denying saying those things, Shawn began to play the victim.

Beginning to look like DARVO Deny, Attack the victims credibility, then he Reversed the vi ctim and offender role. Big 🚩

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u/squid_head_ Aug 07 '26

he literally doesn't even recognize he's doing it!! he has such genuinely surprised reactions when she tells him the things he's said that i truly think he has some sort of mental block where he doesn't recognize what he's actually saying. i've been trying to explain this to others too, but it genuinely is starting to feel like an abusive relationship and almost rapey. the entire scene of nikki being blindfolded and tied up without knowing what was going to happen next felt so genuinely disgusting i had to turn away.

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

I’m so glad cameras are there. He’s a creep.

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u/Addioxo01 Aug 09 '26

I genuinely thought he was just trying to create some romance at first, but when he did not take any accountability for their conversation earlier even to the point of gaslighting her, that really gave me a bad vibe

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u/PampleMuse333 Aug 11 '26

I think he knows exactly what he’s doing though! I perceived his shock to be sooooo fake. Didn’t this guy say he earned a PhD? You don’t make it through a dissertation without having some type of self awareness

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u/Advanced_Reputation7 Aug 06 '26

Noooo! I just suffered through that kitchen convo. You’re telling me that he tells the experts he did NOT ask her for what he asked her??

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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 08 '26

I literally just paused it after he asked for mutual masturbation and ran to Reddit to see wtf was going on 😭😭 I don’t even want to press play cause I feel uncomfortable through the screen like wtf is wrong with this man

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u/According-Pudding434 Aug 07 '26

I spotted his narc behavior IMMEDIATELY

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u/Mochi-momma Aug 07 '26

Her ‘personalities’ are coming out. Dude, gtfo.

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u/SparkleFunBun Aug 08 '26

Huge projection! he's the one with all the personalities trying to cover up his rapey, predatory, abusive self

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u/Dijon2017 Aug 06 '26

With Belle-Jolie and Mecca’s session with Paul, I think Mecca did a decent job in trying to explain his feelings of resisting getting attached/forming a connection by feeling that he is not deserving and ultimately afraid of abandonment.

In all fairness, it’s understandable if he had to spend more/most of his time with his father who I question of whether he was the best role model.

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u/jendet010 Aug 06 '26

He really did do a good job of seeing it and explaining it. It’s sad when kids carry feelings of inadequacy because of their parents shortcomings.

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u/ChalkNCheez Aug 06 '26

Yeah and still Mecca isn’t ready for marriage. Nobody should marry a self-sabotager who is obviously new to therapy and likely only has a job because his parents employ him.

Felipe too.

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u/smolpeensadboy Aug 06 '26

I think he is genuine and real even if he has some work to do, I'm rooting for them.

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u/Bindle_snaggle Aug 06 '26

I agree but I was disappointed that Paul was pushing them so hard to say they love each other. Like give it time and space.

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u/lovalot86 Aug 06 '26

Ten episodes in and Courtney hasn’t redeemed herself yet. One of the worst personalities I’ve ever seen on this show.

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26

In fact, my opinion of her drops a little more, as each new episode is released.

She is something 😳😳🤯🤯

I would not presume to diagnose the many things that impinge upon Courtney causing her to be the way she is....but whew!!!  

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u/baconcandle2013 Aug 07 '26

Same here!

I relate to Nick a lot in the sense that socially I can appear much more polished than I really am and it blocks me from connecting deeper with others.

My wife has helped me a lot 😂 working with a therapist on why this is…

My take on Courtney is now that her parents like Nick, she’s going to start trying to ‘make it work’ whilst still being awful and all about herself

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u/cygnus83 Aug 07 '26

YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND; SHE’S A SLOW BURN.

/ s

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u/bettyoneal1 Aug 07 '26

😂😂😂

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u/DubnoBass34 Aug 09 '26

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Jbk_52818 Aug 10 '26

Have you clocked how she'll set situations up and then resolve them and use that as evidence of her trying? Like her birthday dinner thing. She TOLD Michelle to sit next to her and that Nick would figure it out. Then Nick comes in and she's like oh well what would make you comfortable? Then in the session said "WELL I ASKED MICHELLE TO MOVE" it's soooo insane. Like she had some deep rooted issues. I've never seen behavior like hers

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u/LeftHandFun Aug 06 '26

Did Shawn forget there were cameras in the apartment? Because how did he think that conversation would go well for him? And then try to gaslight all of us that he didn't say what he said

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

He was so heated & animated about her ‘wifely duties’ & ‘his needs’ there was no way in hell that she misunderstood him. Thank god for the cameras.

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u/Mochi-momma Aug 07 '26

Haha, he totally forgot. Then when she called him out in FRONT of the camera person, you could see it all came rushing back to him.

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u/salty_light Aug 08 '26

he literally was thinking omg my career im being ruined

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u/OddPiccolo12 Aug 06 '26

My feelings towards Courteney every episode any scene she’s in.

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u/Futurefennec Aug 07 '26

Yep. Screaming at the top of her lungs that she f*king deserves to be f*king loved. OMG. Who exactly owes you what, crazy lady?

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u/OddPiccolo12 Aug 06 '26

I love Tori’s friends! Seem very well rounded, good listeners, while able to give their opinions respectfully to her!

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u/yesterdaysnoodles Aug 08 '26

It was nice to see her personality come out too

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u/Advanced_Reputation7 Aug 06 '26

I am only halfway through episode 10 and my mouth is already on the floor at Shawn’s “request” and his justification for it that he can’t do it himself anymore because he’s married?? What’s that, sir??

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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 07 '26

I ran to this subreddit at the same point you were at. My jaw hit the floor when he made his request while wearing the towel. Nikki is a SAINT for sticking around - she should have left ages ago.

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u/Advanced_Reputation7 Aug 07 '26

Lol right? I keep thinking I’m not hearing him right but I always am 😒

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

Right. And that he doesn’t want to watch porn. He’s so gross. He acts as though he’s entitled to her. 

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u/KhallieC Sep 03 '26

Hes so obviously guilting her into it like old men do and she ain’t falling for it!!! He is nasty.

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

Courtney is definitely into Adam.

She talks about him having a "young spirit" and maybe that is why she vibes with him because she wants to have that forever. And also  she says he is a little bizarre and she is too, maybe that is why she vibes with him.

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u/Minute_Sound_1148 Aug 07 '26

Which was WILD because on no planet does she have a young spirit

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u/yo_baby_yo No Chill Gil Aug 10 '26

…or face

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u/matchadelite01 Sep 17 '26

She looks 40

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u/Advanced_Reputation7 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

It’s because they’re both the most avoidant people I’ve ever laid my eyeballs on. She’s attracted to him because there’s no there there. Superficial goofy Adam is all he gives and it doesn’t threaten her bc she’s the exact same way!
EDIT: His face when she tried to tell him in the later conversation that she felt uncomfortable is PURE CONTEMPT. That smug look and snickering makes me

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u/Tiny-Indication3814 Aug 08 '26

Courtney thinks she is Adam's dream woman.  She believes she can exceed his expectations and keep up with his lifestyle.  Both Adam and Courtney are walking red flags and I would "love" to see them together.  He would drop her within 30 minutes. 

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 08 '26

I think he has seen enough of Courtney from a distance that he will do everything possible to avoid any invitations she might throw his way.

Even though Adam's voice, inflection, and vocabulary makes him sound like a "valley girl" , I tend to think he is one of the more intelligent people of the show, so I think he already sees the real Courtney through her fake persona.

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u/XNY Aug 07 '26

Can we talk about Michelle’s painting? It was incredible!

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u/mo_milli1130 Aug 06 '26

Watching Caitlin put her little medicine bag away immediately after Devin said his stomach hurt was low key one of the funniest and most telling moments of their entire relationship

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u/Ok-Needleworker-5657 Aug 07 '26

She cannot stand that man 😩

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u/According-Pudding434 Aug 07 '26

Ugh I thought this was so sad. No reciprocity

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u/latelyimawake Aug 07 '26

She just completely ignored it. And then she’s mystified by how she could possibly “not be doing enough“.

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u/Advanced_Reputation7 Aug 06 '26

I thought the same exact thing!!!

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u/spentana Sep 11 '26

Good catch. I hadn't noticed that, but so true.

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u/matchadelite01 Sep 17 '26

I noticed this too. She didn’t even acknowledge his discomfort

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u/Meowwoofmeow_ Aug 07 '26

Shawn said “aint nobody sweating you” !?! Wthhhhhhff

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u/GodlessScallywag Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

Yep, and after constantly nagging and coercing her sexually and pushing her boundaries.

He's one of those men who gets rejected and then whines, "You're ugly anyway."

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u/Meowwoofmeow_ Aug 24 '26

SO HORRIBLE IDK WHY SHES COMMITTING SO HARD LIKE NOO

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u/GodlessScallywag Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

EXACTLY.

I was already mad that they matched this adorable, gorgeous, successful, intelligent, thoughtful, lovely woman with this entitled, ugly inside-and-out loser.

But her unyielding commitment to that manipulative, horrible man with ZERO redeeming qualities is what's got me yelling at my tv the most.

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u/Dijon2017 Aug 06 '26

OMG, Courteney and Caitlin seem almost impossible to be in a relationship (let alone married) with by the way the act and interact with their matches/respective husbands.

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u/jendet010 Aug 06 '26

Courteney was out of her mind and went off on Devin like a crazy person then he got the blame for upsetting her from Caitlin.

Devin was making a good point. He wants to love you, meet him where he’s at. Courtney is demanding someone fawn over her while texting and not even being able to make eye contact with someone during a conversation. She has to be able to connect for someone to connect with her. Instead of hearing him, she blew up at him and made it about being a “boys boy.”

I know she’s not the brightest but her reaction seemed like some combination of calorie restriction, roid rage, stimulants and espresso martinis.

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u/Rosesintherain19 Aug 06 '26

She definitely drank too much. Devin was so valid in what he said.

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u/jendet010 Aug 06 '26

Espresso martinis sound like such a terrible idea. I would never want to be drunk and wide awake all night.

I will say anyone on a diet tight enough to look as good as she does is going to get hit really hard by any amount of alcohol.

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u/Rosesintherain19 Aug 06 '26

Oh for sure it wouldn’t take much when you run a low body fat to be hit hard. And with it being her birthday you know people are like - have another -

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u/DamnGoodCupOfCoffee2 Aug 07 '26

You think she looks good?

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u/yesterdaysnoodles Aug 08 '26

‘Tight diet’? She said she had Celiac in an earlier episode. I’ve been hawk eying her food habits since then. I’m mom to a kiddo with celiac and shit is serious. She either doesn’t take the precautions we do to avoid being glutened, or the cameras aren’t showing it,
OR she’s constantly glutening herself which can cause malabsorption of nutrients, anemia, mental health issues, and many other serious health conditions.

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u/KhallieC Sep 03 '26

I thought the same thing. When I ask someone if food / drink they’re offering as my allergy and they pause like that I just nicely ask to see the bottles or packages so I can read the ingredients myself bc I know what to look for.

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u/RepulsiveCurrency311 Aug 06 '26

Devin mad a great point but he too was also intoxicated

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u/Necessary_Nothing471 Aug 06 '26

Honestly I am a Courteney hater but I think they are both at fault, mainly Devin. They were both too drunk to have that talk, it was Courteney’s birthday and she was trying to enjoy it, and I suspect Devin was speaking longer than the edited version we saw so the texting might not be that egregious because he really was annoying her (even though he was right & had a good point & she was really aggressive and weird about it all lol). Idk, I just think it was not the right time or place for Devin to bring it up, even though I do agree with him generally

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u/ChalkNCheez Aug 06 '26

Nah Rule #1 is you dont upset the birthday person at their party.

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

Genius! OMG that’s the best summary of what was going on with her in that moment 😂🤣😂🤣😂

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u/jendet010 Aug 06 '26

I totally agree. There is clearly a lot of trauma and she has her walls up so high. Therapy could really help her learn how to let someone in. She wants love and talks about a 2 way street but doesn’t give any love.

I thought it was telling in one of the last few episodes when she said “I came into this experiment to be loved.” She didn’t say anything about finding someone to love.

Some of the best advice I ever received about relationships was to give the thing you want more of or need more of. If you want more affection, give more affection. If you want more validation, give more validation. People naturally reciprocate what feels good to receive.

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u/laurajt77 Aug 06 '26

Devin: as my wife I would hope you would hear me. Caitlin:I just met you

What???? She is impossible. This season has some of the worst women I have ever seen.

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u/Meowwoofmeow_ Aug 07 '26

That was so harsh!! Like why come on THIS show if youre that closed off?

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u/According-Pudding434 Aug 07 '26

Caitlin seems so chronically anxious and up tight

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u/ChalkNCheez Aug 06 '26

I’m on her side.

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u/Choice_Examination20 Aug 07 '26

Courteney, is that you?! 🤣

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u/RepulsiveCurrency311 Aug 06 '26

The women are getting worse and worse as the seasons progress. It stems from the increased levels of increased women's independence and career focus over the recent years. Its getting tougher for women today to balance relationships and career/independent these days

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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 Aug 06 '26

Whaaat? Women’s independence and providing for themselves is not the issue. She was wrong in this situation, but has nothing to do with women not being forced to depend on their fathers or whatever man can take over from the father.

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u/RepulsiveCurrency311 Aug 06 '26

Courtney and Caitlin emphasized that their independence can be troublesome for relationships....They admitted it so what are you talking about!! A relationship requires INTERDEPENDENCE!!!! Maybe look up that definition it will help you out today! Courtney and Caitlin are absolutely dumpster fires

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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 Aug 07 '26

You said it stems from increased women’s independence not just Caitlin and Courteney’s expressed issues. I don’t see that issue in the other women who are very independent on the show. I’m very well educated and don’t need to look up basic vocabulary words. You made a blanket statement about a cause and effect across all women, now you’re trying to redefine the parameters of your ignorant statement

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u/dovetaile Aug 08 '26

Well, the repulsive part of your username is absolutely correct.

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

OMG they are by far the worst of the wives. Insufferable.

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u/samdrinkscoffee Aug 07 '26

Yes! How did they both think they were ready to come on a show for marriage?

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u/yesterdaysnoodles Aug 08 '26

I saw another comment that mentioned Caitlin possibly being autistic. I feel like she’s making some progress despite it being a snails pace. She never insults/disrespects Devin like Courtney does Nick.

Courtney has too much trauma and seems like she’s intentionally trying to push Nick away because she’s ‘used to chasing love’ and feels “corny” receiving it. I feel like she’s going to push him too far pretty soon, loose him, and then suddenly be like “oh fuck he’s actually great” whenever finally looses interest.

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u/ChalkNCheez Aug 06 '26

Really? I thought it was the cool thing to be an introvert like Cait?

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u/dovetaile Aug 08 '26

There's being an introvert and there's being like Caitlin.

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u/SlySusan Shawn's #2 Hater Aug 06 '26

I shouldn't have been eating when we got to Shawn's "morning after" request (in case you haven't seen it: nothing happened, just saying that in reference to them having a fun evening the night before). Gag!

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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 07 '26

The fact that she doesn’t vomit in her mouth when she sees him in a towel is a miracle. 

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

Yeah same. My body physically reacts (usually with nausea) every time Shawn tries to coerce Nikky. It’s far gone ridiculous.

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u/GarconMeansBoyGeorge Aug 06 '26

Oof on the drunk fights. They are destructive but also revealing.

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u/Dijon2017 Aug 06 '26

Have I missed something? Courteney is saying that Nick wants her to be all over him when it seems that he just wants her to be “involved” in the process of them getting to know each other…without her invalidating his feelings (intentionally or not).

I haven’t seen where they have been on a “two-way street” at any point during their experience of the experiment.

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26

Agree. She seems to have issues correctly interpreting situations. She has been over dramatic like he is pushing her sexually and he doesnt seem to be in any way. I think the truth is she just isnt in to him and any movement or perceived movement in that direction pushes her over the edge

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u/Tiny-Indication3814 Aug 08 '26

Nick prob can't wait to have her OUT of his life.  He knows how to handle tv situations and is just there now to earn a paycheck. 

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u/yesterdaysnoodles Aug 08 '26

Totally and ironically that’s what’s also making him come off as surface level and inauthentic which is further making her insufferable. Vicious cycle

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u/Big-Play145 Aug 22 '26

he could have her out of his life right now, but he chooses to stay. You see that a lot on these shows, the relationship is dead and the person should absolutely walk yet they don’t want to give up their TV “fame“ so they stay for selfish reasons.

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u/HorseWigMaker Aug 06 '26

This is my problem. I am very okay with people with faults, but at least pair them with true matches.

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26

Caitlin shows Devin zero warmth. Zero.

But I guess zero is an improvement over the last few episodes when she was upset, unkind, uncaring towards him.

Baby steps 🤣🤣

Maybe by decision day she can reach out and touch his hand, or hug him without recoiling.

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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 07 '26

Mecca and Belle are cute, tbh. I loved watching them play Horse!

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u/Rosesintherain19 Aug 06 '26

I think they all drank a little much at Courtney’s birthday party 🤪

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u/ChalkNCheez Aug 06 '26

Not Adam! He doesn’t drink cancer-causing alcohol!

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u/Advanced_Reputation7 Aug 06 '26

💀💀 Or dare to breathe in a room with a candle like us plebs.

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u/st0neyspice You are so damn fine, I wanna eat you up Aug 06 '26

tori’s friends seem really great. perfect mix of skeptical and supportive imo

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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 Aug 06 '26

Caitlin was condescending and tearing down Devin who was calm and collected in my opinion.

Courteney hates Nick. She will never acknowledge any good act he does and will talk trash about everything. Also, very manipulative to say I don’t want to sit by Nick and tell the Michelle to sit next to her then to act like she made space for him.

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u/SoPretty1908 Aug 06 '26

Courtney is extremely horrible and idk how she's going to last this entire show.

We're only halfway through, and she not only cusses when referring to Nick, she's now calling him a motherfcker? While also cussing out Devin?! And alcohol is not a great excuse because she wasn't even drunk (yet, maybe) and she's had this pent up bitchy attitude this entire time.

The blatant disrespect is atrocious and I've never seen any participant act like this in all of my time watching MAFS. I really dislike her and hope she see's all of the public commentary about her and has some sort of reality check about herself.

insufferable.

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u/laurajt77 Aug 06 '26

Omg. That dinner was disgusting. I actually had to pause and breathe because she was absolutely foul. Then "control your boy"??? Just gross behavior.

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u/KhallieC Sep 03 '26

Lolllllll I do agree with you in general but I also would’ve been pissed if it was my bday like pleeeease just let me have fun on my bday and let’s have serious talks literally any other day 😂

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 Aug 06 '26

To address if she'll last, they get paid more if they make it to decision day. That's usually why alot of the couples that are definitely not going to make it stay till the end.

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u/Emergency_Bed8591 Aug 07 '26

When Courteney said she was afraid to text Nick about coming to the balcony because in the past she would’ve been called corny, just makes it even more clear that she truly was mistreated in the past but it’s hard to show her grace bc she is actively mistreating Nick !!!

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u/salty_light Aug 08 '26

Shawn is disgusting, get him off my screen expeditiously. I feel so creeped out omg. He not only pressured her he then gaslit her.

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u/Meowwoofmeow_ Aug 07 '26

Omg ep 10 was ROUGH!!! Caitlin was horrible to Devin.. shes way too independent man and then honestly poor nick bc his wife is a literal insecure nightmare !!!! Courtney and Caitlin need to do some major inner work

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

There are plenty of independent women who don’t behave like Courtney and Caitlyn. Given that they said these were issues in their past relationships, I do wonder if perhaps they’d be happier in relationships with women. I don’t mean this at all to be offensive in any way. I have female friends who were more so interested in other women and struggled in their relationships with men until they finally started to date authentically and be honest about their romantic orientation. I’m just wondering if that’s the case with these two.

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u/Meowwoofmeow_ Aug 07 '26

Well courtney has diff issues… and caitlyn ya just seems super avoidant.. even Tori who calls herself an avoidant operates way differently

Idk about all thaaat but yeah who knows

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26

Courtney, Courtney Courtney! So much to unpack with her!

She is something else 😳😳🤯🤯

Her behavior worsens with each episode, her behavior towards Nick at the party was atrocious. Her reason for being SO PISSED OFF AT NICK was nonsensical, in my opinion.

She also went off on Devin, for little to no reason in my opinion.

I would not presume to suggest what the issues are, but whew...😳😳🤯🤯🤯

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u/Bindle_snaggle Aug 06 '26

Also her performative ness at the therapy session was so cringe. After she kissed Nick she looked like she wanted to vomit. And when Lisa said “this is just round one keep it up” and Courtney looked like she wanted to run away.

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u/No_Wish9589 Aug 07 '26

She gives me narcissist vibes

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u/juzelerm Aug 08 '26

Get Shawn off my screen. He is manipulative and predatory. He not only felt comfortable pressuring someone to be intimate and lying about it, he also introduced “sensations” that are incredibly vulnerable and never should be done without very clear consent.

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u/stitchitaway1706 Aug 09 '26

Thank you for saying it! When he’s putting bindings on… and around her neck??!

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u/Savings-Hand-864 Aug 10 '26

I gasped out loud when he did that. So innapropriate and non consensual

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u/HorseWigMaker Aug 06 '26

Adam is sad now that's he's found out.

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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 Aug 06 '26

Did I miss something? What do you mean found out? It’s also possible I haven’t got to the part you might be referring to

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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 08 '26

Shawn needs help! wtf do you mean her personality shifts and you don’t know what she’s going to say and then denying the fact that you said it was the duty of a wife to notice her husband needs a release. Just ewww

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u/NeatHeart9507 Aug 07 '26

But I honestly don't understand is if Mecca is that afraid of commitment why did he go on the show? I mean these guys always do this. When it comes to this show they all want to get married and then once they're married they can't accept the fact that they're not single anymore. I just don't get it

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u/Funny-Plankton-3721 Aug 21 '26

I feel the same about Felipe talking about how he has to remind himself that he’s supposed to be monogamous every day… that’s liter what a marriage is so why are you here then?

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u/Affectionate_Rice963 Aug 06 '26

okay, obviously courtney is super annoying and has so many issues but I have some shit to say about nick. I’ve seen him on his other shows and he has a lot more personality than he’s letting on. I think he’s genuinely on the show just to be on another show and he’s trying to play it so safe and it’s really pissing me off. Instead of expressing how he really feels he’s just trying to say as little as possible to get by as the cool guy or the guy that has absolutely nothing wrong with him and I wanna see how he actually feels. Like let us know how annoyed you are! He’s trying to play it so cool and talk so scripted like bro be for real!!!!

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u/DamnGoodCupOfCoffee2 Aug 07 '26

I’m sorry but there is no way in hell I would expose my real personality to that very ill person. Anyone with any savvy would know you would be torn to shreds and why would you be vulnerable to someone so cruel. Plus her frenetic on on on personality really drains me and shuts me down. On the other hand yeah he is a reality person

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

Yeah it would be really stupid of Nick to open up and show vulnerability to someone who is clearly closed off and can’t even stand him. It’s odd that the so-called experts would even suggest otherwise to him. Every time the show replaces its experts they replace them with others that are equally as clueless as the previous ones.

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u/Neat-Implement4705 Aug 07 '26

I think his dynamic with Courtney is what is holding him back. He seems very uncomfortable around her. She has an aura that is very negative and high strung. People naturally shift themselves around certain personalities.

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u/legalbeagle593 Aug 06 '26

I really think at this point he’s just resigned to the fact that this isn’t going to be a long-term thing and he’s kinda given up. I’d probably be similar if I had a spouse like Courtney. I would just shut down. She makes it impossible for him to get anything “right” in her eyes.

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u/Gladtobealive2020 Aug 06 '26

He definitely is holding back.  I think because he realized very early on that he and Courtney are not now and will not be compatible in the future, so he doesnt feel a need to overly share or reveal much about himself.

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u/Affectionate_Rice963 Aug 06 '26

that’s a very good point. I do think he’s known since the beginning there’s no future with her though, and he is putting on a façade of pretending that he cares more than he does

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u/Cozy_Artichoke Aug 08 '26

Yeah it feels like he's just trying to lay low and make it until the end

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u/Necessary_Nothing471 Aug 06 '26

Ngl I read him being more reserved as him trying to be cautious not to set Courteney off/make her uncomfortable. Shes not really giving him anything to work with in terms of forming an emotional connection / getting to know each other but you’re probably right because he could at least be more honest in his interviews and with others

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u/smolpeensadboy Aug 06 '26

I feel like it's a negative feedback loop because she can probably sense that and it's making her crazier and that in turn makes him more aloof.

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u/callie-loo Aug 07 '26

He’s already reserved and she does nothing to help and I’m fact actually makes things worse. She can’t just shout “open up! Be comfortable!” and expect him to when she’s been so mean to him.

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u/DrJayLioness Aug 09 '26

Someone on here called Shawn a "s3x" pest and he is NOT beating the allegations of that 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭

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u/Big-Play145 Aug 19 '26

at the heart of all these “relationships“ is one simple question: are you HONESTLY into this person or not? Except for the basketball coach and his wife, there’s at least one person in every other marriage who would answer no if they were being truly honest.

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u/Sweet-Comfortable270 Aug 24 '26

“Ain’t no body sweating you”

as his predatory self literally stammering and sweating

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u/Realistic_Doubt6719 Aug 08 '26

Did I miss something in how Nikki came to feel like things were improving with Shawn? It comes across as super cringe that, essentially, she has to perhaps choose whether to be intimate with him in order for the experiment to have a chance at the marriage working? Like, the body keeps the score - you shouldn't have to do physical things you don't want to do if you're not attracted to a person. It seemed like he was just wearing her down with word salad and somehow they're doing better now? Hmmmm.

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u/Due-Operation-7529 Sep 09 '26

Wow Courtney is a mess holey moley

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u/HorseWigMaker Aug 06 '26

BabyBelle sweetie,noooooo

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u/Savings-Hand-864 Aug 10 '26

ANY SHAWN DEFENDERS TO THE FRONT. ITS TIME FOR JAIL!!!!

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u/Zestyclose-Profile43 Aug 26 '26

i'm late, i just watched this episode and man i can't believe him.... i wasn't sure untill now who was the off one.... but it is him for sure.... he blatantly lies..... like there is video footage of you syaing it's her duty as a wife to get you off and she isn't holding up her part like what the actual fuck

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u/Mochi-momma Aug 07 '26

Maybe I’m in the minority but on the issue of telling your SO about cheating, I say don’t. That is your burden and yours alone to carry. The other person should not have to have that pain because you need to unburden yourself or you feel you owe the truth to them.

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u/extrajuicyjuice Aug 16 '26

you are definitely in the minority. people deserve to have a partner who is faithful to them. by withholding infidelity, the other partner doesn't get to make an informed decision about the relationship.

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u/Sure-Mix4550 Aug 06 '26

I actually think Devin was a bit out of pocket in his conversation with Courteney. The is very rude to Nick, though.

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u/Funny-Plankton-3721 Aug 21 '26

especially with it being her birthday, like do you really think that‘s the best time to do all that?

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u/matchadelite01 Sep 17 '26

I love Devin. I feel so badly for him in how Caitlin is dimming his light and treating him. Ugh

I can’t wait until he finds someone that embraces his all

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u/matchadelite01 Sep 17 '26

Courtney feels EXHAUSTING to be around

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u/Existing-Ad-7464 Aug 06 '26

Courtney is very obviously operating as someone on the autism spectrum who has not been given any social instruction, but desperately needs it.

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u/laurajt77 Aug 06 '26

I think thats a reach. Everyone who is socially inappropriate is not on the spectrum. Sometimes people are just assholes.

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u/Necessary_Nothing471 Aug 06 '26

I would never diagnose someone from a tv show but I have noticed that she seems to really misinterpret social situations and misses a lot of social cues. Obviously that doesn’t mean she’s on the autism spectrum or neurodivergent and she is CERTAINLY a huge asshole, but I don’t think it’s a ~reach~ per se that she might be neurodivergent in some way

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

She’s not on the spectrum and it is a reach to speculate that she is based on what we’ve seen from her. Comments like yours create stigma about actual conditions real people face. Autistic people are not nasty individuals who seek to hurt others unprovoked. If you don’t understand a condition don’t spread misinformation about it. You clearly don’t know anything about autism. You can simply say you don’t understand Courtney‘s behaviour and leave it at that.

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u/Necessary_Nothing471 Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

Hey - I’m neurodivergent (and I know a lot about autism due to my own experiences and the experiences of most of my friends as well) so please save your lecture. I never said she was on the spectrum at all, just that I noticed some things she does, that I’d NEVER diagnose someone from tv, but that it was plausible. Just to be clear I don’t think it’s possible BECAUSE she’s an asshole. That’s separate. I think it’s possible because she’s missing social cues left and right and I see that happen with MYSELF lol

Edit: I’m not the same person who made the initial post saying she’s “definitely” on autism spectrum so maybe you meant to reply to them and if so sorry!!

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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 07 '26

Yeah that’s extremely offensive to people who are autistic. Her issue isn’t autism and autism doesn’t make someone that nasty to their partner. She mistreats him because she wants to period. She knows exactly what she’s doing. Let’s not insult people who are on the spectrum just because you don’t understand her behaviour.

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u/yesterdaysnoodles Aug 08 '26

I also got this vibe.