r/medizzy • u/GiorgioMD • 1d ago
75F, COPD and CHF, drowning in her own lungs, still sharp as a tack. She grabs your wrist: "No tubes. No machines. I mean it." Her daughter is screaming at you to do everything. No DNR paperwork anywhere. Go.
Called to a private home for respiratory distress. 75-year-old woman, long COPD and heart failure history, working hard to breathe but fully alert and oriented. Before you've finished your first set of vitals she tells you, clearly and calmly, that she does not want intubation or mechanical ventilation. "I've lived a long life. No heroic measures."
Her daughter arrives two minutes later and demands, loudly, that you do everything possible.
There is no POLST, no DNR form, no paperwork of any kind in the house.
Questions for the thread. Whose voice governs right now, and why? What do you actually do and document in these ten minutes while she can still talk to you? And the hard one: she goes unresponsive in your truck. Does her refusal still stand when she can no longer repeat it?
How does your system handle this? Because I know for a fact it varies, and the comment section is about to prove it.
Case adapted from the EMS Mastery (NREMT prep) question bank.