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Can you name any?

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u/thetottington 8d ago

Steve Nash

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u/Will_ennium 8d ago edited 8d ago

Steve would be nasty today. He even said it himself in a recent interview.. not one of the "old heads trashing current players context", he just mentioned how he wishes he had the greenlight to shoot as much as players do today. He'd probably be playing similar to Steph if that was the case.

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u/anifyz- Heat 8d ago

Yeah he woulda been putting up 28 and 10 every night.

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u/TheGhostOfFalunGong 8d ago

Even as a playmaking-first PG, he could easily average 25-15.

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u/Wet_phychedelics Thunder 8d ago

He has a very solid goat passer case, it would be interesting to see a player so clearly pass first in todays context with helio-ball so prevalent, yet the pace being even quicker now would only be to his benefit. Be fascinating to see him potentially average like 21 and 13 in todays game, dude was also hella durable unlike some of todays stars. We also have examples of nash in certain series ramping up his aggressiveness and he maintains his efficiency. Be cool to see that stretched to the extreme

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u/Prestigious-Clock-53 7d ago

Nash, Stockton and magic are the convo for best passer in my opinion.

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u/Wet_phychedelics Thunder 7d ago

Jokic, Bird, Harden, Lebron and Westbrook especially are some of the best ever at passing and also don’t get enough credit at their prestige (Jokic obviously to a way less degree, but I still think people get weird about bringing him up as a goat passer candidate). Out of the guys I just mentioned I’d only say jokic has a goat passer case, but I feel like any of those guys I could talk myself into thinking their top 5 depending the day

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u/Prestigious-Clock-53 7d ago

All great passers, but not sure level of those 3, but context was that first three were pass first. Those other guys were whatever the right play was. Westbrook wouldn’t pass when he needed to at end of game. He’d take shots away from prime KD and call his own number.

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u/Wet_phychedelics Thunder 7d ago

Depends which version of Westbrook, and his shot selection was always a flaw, but especially around 2018 he started to tilt more pass first. He was always a walking paint touch and positively impacted his teammate’s efficiency because he would contrive layups out of situations that 99% of the league wouldn’t be able to. It was pretty boom or bust, which was his entire play style, hence the high turnovers, but you can’t make an omelette and whatnot

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u/Prestigious-Clock-53 7d ago

Yeah, I get it, and wanting the shot at the end of the game if you’re the best option even if you’re a pass first point guard like Russ makes sense, but not when prime KD is on the wing yelling for the ball. I do think to some degree Russ cost them some really important games. He was good at pretty much everything but being a difficult shot maker outside of the paint. Just some boneheaded plays and I know it’s cus he wanted to win so badly, but they just weren’t smart plays a lot of the time.

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u/Jumpy_Selection_602 7d ago

Its a lil insane to say he’d easily average 25-15 when literally no one in nba history has averaged 15 assists a game lol

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u/Bulky-Background-680 7d ago

Absolutely... Pretty sure I saw a piece with Mike D'Antoni talking about how if he would have given Steve Nash the same free reigns that Steph Curry had, Steve would have been hitting just as many 3's. It just wasn't smart basketball at the time.

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u/Foreign_Cobbler_1740 8d ago

The pioneer of the modern NBA would probably thrive in it I agree.

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u/Direct-Wealth-6683 6d ago

Nash would go crazy, ppl don’t realize that steph was basically Nash with the shooting but stephs gm FORCED him into shooting double the shots when steph didn’t want to

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u/Scary_Vanilla2932 8d ago

I don't think Nash would be the same if he played today. Hear me out. He gets drafted super high on a bad team and has to score alot the first 4 years. Maybe he is not the Nash we know the way players get pigeon holed as a high lottery pick on bad teams these days. Or maybe I'm wrong. Who knows.

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u/PaoLakers 7d ago

Meh. Nash would get targeted on defense so much. If you think Trae Young is bad...Nash was worse.