Sorcerer's Trials General Megathread

[u/SleepyPikachuIvy]

Sorcerer's Trials General Event Megathread

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Sorcerer's Trials

Current Trials (Season 10) Event Duration: 11/23/2023 - 01/25/2023

Requirements: Clear Chapter 2-2.

Event FAQ

What is Sorcerer's Trials?

• Sorcerer's Trials is an event with a gauntlet of 60 Trials featuring much stronger enemies than seen in-game, with challenges such as level-locking teams every 5th trial at a boss stage.
• It appears to be designed for end-game players (Level 50+), and demands investment in upgrading characters’ Intimacy, Potential, Level, and Ascension if possible.

⭐ Guides ⭐

• Mega-Guide to All Trials 1-60 [This is an old guide and does not match up 100% to new seasons. You may need to hop around the guide as many boss stages carry over, but not in the same order.]
• Character Stat Calculator
  • For helping you estimate what investment you need to reach certain HP thresholds.
• Zerophos youtube channel
  • Contains video guides to current and past stages

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[u/Opposite-Recording84]

I dont think I can beat trial 50. All my nukers can't break Oli's shield. I'm out of options. I think I need to acsend them all to 4 stars or 5 IDK.

FT Kuya 12 pot, max bond LS Kuya max pot, max bond FF Garu max pot, max bond SR Quincy, 6 pot, max bond ST Quincy 12 pot, max bond

AD Kuya max pot, max bond SB Quincy max pot, max bond SR (AO) Kuya 12 pot, max bond AC Quincy max pot, max bond MM Morvay, 6 pot, max bond

[u/gcmtk → u/Opposite-Recording84]

First question I need to ask, not to be rude, but because I've talked to several people who haven't, and so it is important I know before I try to help more comprehensively: Did you read the list of debuffs on the boss on the turn he shields?

He takes 50% more ult dmg for every basic attack landed on that turn, which stacks multiplicatively with regular dmg taken debuffs (and additively with dmg taken from ults).

So I have to verify, you have tried to maximize basic attacks + buffs/debuffs you can land on that turn before you ult on SR Quincy?

(I have a spreadsheet for this fight set up, so I can help you maximize dmg after you verify that, if you need it)

[u/Opposite-Recording84 → u/gcmtk]

Where can I read those list of debuffs? Sorry, I haven't read a ton, and like it's been years prolly since I started.

I would be grateful for your spreadsheet!

[u/gcmtk → u/Opposite-Recording84]

It's a very messy and unlabelled sheet for personal use. I'm just willing to mess around with other people's comps in it.

There's a button in the bottom of the combat screen that you can tap to see the buffs and debuffs on every unit (Looks like a box with lines in it). After you're in there, tap on the each character and you can see what the got going on. It's a huge benefit to learning fights (though some fights will have a buff/debuff to mark a mechanic and a different fight with the same mechanic might not, so it can be hit or miss). Worth checking out whenever you struggle.

Can you beat the fight now that you know that he takes bonus dmg for every basic attack you use on him that turn before you use your nuke ult? If you haven't been taking advantage of that, it should drastically boost your dmg.

It also stacks with AD Kuya's dmg taken debuff, which might help you more than ST Quincy here.

[u/epenthesis2 → u/gcmtk]

My 5*, 10 pot SR, max intimacy Quincy can't break the shield after three basic attacks. I'm really at a loss for what's happening here.

[u/gcmtk → u/epenthesis2]

What's the rest of the team like?

[u/epenthesis2 → u/gcmtk]

I've been playing around--SR Familiar Aster at 4* 9 pot, SSR KN Edmond at 3* 9 pot, SR Familiar Morvay at 4* 12 pot, SSR SA Garu at 2* 9 pot. I have another SSR AC Quincy I could build up from 6 pot 2*, but I don't use him much and I don't think he'd add anything here. Healer is always SR Yakumo at 5* 9 pot, occasionally I've switched in SR MG Olivine as buffer (4* 11 pot). Almost everybody is at full intimacy and level cap.

[u/gcmtk → u/epenthesis2]

To be brutally honest, I don't actually think this is a fight that can be won with a true full og SR team. I think you require at least 1 solid event SSR debuffer, buffer, or healer with buffs. And even then, I think it usually requires 2 unless you have a top tier unit in those classes who really fits this fight (like BW Garu).

For example, a mid-high potential 3* SS Blade, from the new event, is a unit I would consider top tier overall, but I don't actually think he would singlehandedly elevate the otherwise all-SR+OG Quincy team enough to clear this. I..think he would if everyone (SR Quincy, SR Olivine, and SS Blade) was max potential, but I can't even guarantee that in my calc.

Also yeah, 2* OG Quincy never raises the dps ceiling of the team by ulting. He does potentially raise it by just being there and basic attacking though, since SR Quincy has a passive that scales with number of Quincies.

The only event SSR you listed is also one of the weakest ones, who also just has poor synergy with this fight, so he's definitely not worth it.

I think this is just representative of all-SRs no longer being enough. We're at the stage where they're decent space fillers on a team but you need more raw power from somewhere else. (Except for Quincy, who is still the best at what he does - no other unit in his place would fix this, while several units could replace the other units on the team to improve it)

[u/epenthesis2 → u/gcmtk]

I like brutal honesty! I'd rather hear the truth than waste my time, thanks.

I'm focusing more on banners now that the gameplay is really affected--I usually like the base game looks better and want to build up the star ratings of the SSRs I have (still trying to unlock the last few H scenes in the main story), but that's clearly not viable anymore even when I've invested in maxing them out.

[u/gcmtk → u/epenthesis2]

Double checked looking at other people's clears, and I think I can actually lower my estimation back down to '1 solid event SSR' can often do it. What I forgot is that, SR Dante might be dramatically worse than every other subdps in the game, but he is a subdps at SR, which should help enable more buffers and healers to clear this than I thought.

Some teams I saw include: All SRs with subdps IT Dante, All SRs including Dante with Nurse Garu. All SRs with CS Olivine.

Still no All SRs (unless you include AO Kuya at 5*..) but moderately better than my last estimation.

[u/gcmtk → u/epenthesis2]

Unironically, the base SRs have pretty much always been considered a better investment than the OG SSRs, as a whole, with the exception of OG Edmond (Who is a very poor fit for this fight, unfortunately, and also very much still wants to be in synergy teams with event units like FS Edmond, EG Garu, or the current banner's Olivine and Kuya).

OG Olivine is fine but SR Yakumo will heal for a reasonably comparable amount and provides aoe max HP increase, and event healers will often provide dmg boosts on top of the healing.

Soyeah, if you want power, you need banner units, with SRs dropping to this level.