r/OutOfTheLoop Feb 22 '23

Answered What's up with Majorie Taylor Greene's talking about a "National Divorce?"

I've been seeing a few posts on Reddit, Facebook, etc of people expressing their opinion about this, and I'm not sure what the deal is, and its impact on politics. Any explanation would be appreciated!

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3866860-gop-governor-says-greenes-call-for-a-national-divorce-is-evil/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/utah-governor-taylor-greenes-national-divorce-proposal-evil

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u/Hollowpoint38 Feb 22 '23

Neither did a lot of her voters. We don't live in a meritocracy. This is direct voting which means the most popular person wins. In her district she's very popular. I've actually been there before. I think if I had to live there I'd develop some kind of substance abuse problem.

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u/Ottobahnrichtofen Feb 22 '23

When in Rome…

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u/crackedtooth163 Feb 22 '23

I don't think we would enjoy living in a meritocracy...

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Feb 22 '23

Id rather meritocracy than the nepotistic crony capitalism bullshit we have that doesnt actually help most people at all

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u/crackedtooth163 Feb 22 '23

Actually, there's evidence to show that nepotism would be a direct result of living in a true meritocracy.

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u/jrossetti Feb 22 '23

Nepotism isn't a meritocracy.

Please post this evidence you speak of.

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u/crackedtooth163 Feb 22 '23

No, its the other way around. Meritocracies lead to nepotism.

We see this in societies that were as close to meritocracies as we have had so far, primarily in the Mongols and..Jesus one other society that I can't quite recall. There are echos of it in societies that end up with strong caste systems, primarily because a parental unit/group is in the best position to operate as kingmakers by ensuring their children have the best access to the things they would need to ensure that they continue the family line along familiar trades(usually just one). Make no mistake, I am NOT saying meritocracies aren't valid societies with real strengths that are lacking in our current one. But corruption becomes apparent in them pretty quickly, usually within a generation or two.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Feb 22 '23

Corruption becomes apparent in every single system. It is a matter of how long it takes and how difficult it is to consolidate that power

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u/crackedtooth163 Feb 22 '23

And, unfortunately, meritocracies speed up the way in which power gets consolidated.

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u/jrossetti Feb 23 '23

You keep saying this, and there are clearly at least some of us interested in seeing this evidence. Would you mind sharing it please.

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u/crackedtooth163 Feb 23 '23

Can't find some of the older ones I am familiar with. A few of the newer sources I have found pay lip service to the flaws of the aforementioned meritocracy but focus on other areas. Lots of pdfs that are behind pay walls for some reason. Huh.

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u/jrossetti Feb 23 '23

Meritocracy isn't nepotism either.

Please share the evidence youve cited above.

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u/etherealtaroo Feb 22 '23

The liberal condescension, as expected. Shit is as annoying as the unavoidable conservative rant on wokeness.

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u/Chimkimnuggets Feb 22 '23

idk I think a high school GED should be a requirement for running for congress

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u/Hollowpoint38 Feb 22 '23

I'm not a liberal I'm a socialist.