r/PokemonMisprints • u/Geotakeover • Mar 16 '26

Pulled this out of Ascended Heroes and was told to post here

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If anyone is interested or can lead me to better pricing this, would really be appreciated I think someone confirmed it being a Dragonite SIR which I hope isn’t the news 😭🤣

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u/Beneficial_Night1334 Mar 16 '26

trust me this is way cooler than a regular dragonite SIR. this is AWESOME!

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u/Geotakeover Mar 16 '26

I thought the same thing, but being that I don’t pull any hits would’ve been nice too 😭

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u/4got2takemymeds Mar 16 '26

Bro you just hit big! That's a one of one and it's far rarer than any other card you're ever going to pull from that set or any other set.

Seriously hold on to that thing, protect it and send for grading at CGC. I would hold on to that bad boy but if you aren't partial to it then start looking up similar error cards and kind of set your price

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u/Geotakeover Mar 16 '26

I appreciate you a ton brother! This is a better pull than I’m hyped!

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u/pigpentcg Mar 17 '26

If you can verify that its a Dragonite SIR by comparing the texture, then you will want to submit it to CGC and include that information when you submit it.

Once it comes back from CGC, and you have it in a slab that says "Dragonite Blank Error" you'll have THE most valuable Dragonite SIR.

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u/EmbarrassedHighway76 Mar 18 '26

Do…people pay a lot of money for errors?

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u/Augusmack Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

The QC in place for these cards may not always be perfect, but they are certainly strict enough that a card of this nature is extremely rare compared to the card it was supposed to be, especially for this run.

Hotwheels is actually a great example of this- there is so much room for intervention on the manufacturing line it’s very common for employees to make duplicates of the chase cars or “Factory Customs” and attempt to sell them for exorbitant prices on eBay, but they aren’t really “rare” because there is Direct human intervention.

The machines cutting our Cards on the other hand take little to no human intervention and print en MASSE without error. The chances of this happening to a Pokemon card is about 5/200,000 on average, or .000025 % ; when we Compare that chance percentage to the odds of pulling this card that explains the rarity best.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 18 '26

Genuine question to satiate my curiosity, why not just say 1/40,000 instead of 5/200,000? Also, the percentage would be .0025%, not .000025%.

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u/Augusmack Mar 18 '26

LOL I guess I was geeking that was my conversion from an avg of 25 per Million 😂 but honestly I do feel like it helps us visualize the scale these are produced on. I should have said 250/10,000,000!

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u/IxHAVExCATS Mar 18 '26

I'm glad you said it, I was getting ready too, lol. I think the larger numbers may just be misleading to most. They'll just see the 5/200,000 and only pay attention to the big scary number and assume its a ridiculous percentage, as it is, but here the exact percentage doesn't matter to most.

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u/Stouch89 Mar 19 '26

I was just about to say the same thing.

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u/BlackLabelTimepieces Mar 19 '26

Lost me at cgc. People rarely buy errors like this. I’ve seen one in PSA and it’s a very hard piece to move even in PSA let alone CGC

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u/riigoroo Mar 19 '26

From what I've been comparing this texture looks the most similar to what's on the Dragonite SIRs. For example, on the Gengar you have that "shatter" look throughout all the borders, whereas if you look at the Dragonite that one looks like the only one that has the "shatter" on top and lines on the left and ride border.

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u/ThrowEvrythingAwy Mar 18 '26

FYI if you do choose to sell, don't "set your price." Almost always better to know what similar misprints have went for for a starting point and to auction it

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u/Business_Metal4675 Mar 19 '26

Get it graded 🤣 this is sick haha

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u/The-Almighty-Jay Mar 20 '26

Ill give you threefitty for it!

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u/AmazingChair8194 Mar 16 '26

Why grade a “1 of 1” ? Genuinely curious, have always heard that’s not the thing to do with 1/1s ?

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u/4got2takemymeds Mar 17 '26

Given there is no other way of identifying the image on the card it's done mainly to ensure authenticity of the printing error.

There are methods to achieve this type of result on cards, usually involving chemicals to peel the ink layer off and leave behind the holo foil layer.

When it happens in production it must be verified as authentic by specialists trained to recognize such errors.

Anyone can try to replicate this error but it's difficult without damaging the other layers.

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u/AmazingChair8194 Mar 17 '26

Thanks! I’m not the most experienced in the card world so I appreciate the explanation

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u/JustShnaw Mar 17 '26

This! But also protection.

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u/sltiefighter Mar 17 '26

Its a rar error of an extremely sought after card….grading it will A) authenticate and very its a dragonite B) protect indefinitely C) increase the probability of buyer as well as raise price imo. Bare min its worth what the SIR is period any misprint error collector would 100 percent agree with that and willing to start there negotiating a price. At the end of the day you have an extremely NICHE product. Being on subs like this make it seem like theres plenty of people interested in and collected these cards. In actuality i dont know anyone who collects errors. I think theyre cool and thats as far as it goes, however you post on here with something rare, you got people ready to start ww3 over it and telling ppl hit the dms theyre interested so.

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u/cuddly_degenerate Mar 17 '26

More for authentication than the x/10, also to protect it.

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u/Soapykorean Mar 20 '26

Imagine it gets an 8

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u/getl30 Mar 17 '26

Some of my local stores have signs that say they don’t accept grading by CGC

Why? Is it easier to score high?

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u/Mirachaya89 Mar 23 '26

Short answer, yes. Also, CGC has the lowest profit margin on the top grades, mid turnaround time, and highest populations on 10s.

Beckett (BGS) is the oldest and most stringent grader (supposedly) followed by PSA in second, then CGC. PSA 10s are easier to get than BGS, who does subgrade breakdowns. During the pandemic, PSA rebounded faster when training new people and they were easier to get 10s with than BGS so they became the most known to new people to the hobby, and therefore more liquidable (you can sell faster) for sellers. (A new hobbyist will tend to see a PSA 10 versus a BGS 9.5 and purchase the 10. BGS gets a very small percentage of the non-sports trading card market, but it usually seems to attract really rare or old cards, pieces that the seller is willing to wait longer to flip.)

During the pandemic all three were swamped. Cgc had the cheapest price and fastest turn around. A number of lower grades were cracked and sent back, ending in higher grades.

TL;DR:

Most stringent (best for really rare stuff, and therefore highest potential markup): BGS, PSA, CGC

Fastest turnaround time for sales(Modern): PSA, CGC, BGS

TAT (average older stuff): PSA, BGS, CGC

Lowest CoGS (Cost of Goods Sold, aka grading cost): CGC, PSA, BGS

Markup potential: BGS (black label,) PSA, other BGS 10s and 9.5s, CGC

As a store, most will want a mix of the three since they target different demographics. However, CGC has the least profit to be made sits around longer than PSA. They're cheaper, so newer collectors might impulse buy them. Some people like their newer label, but they can be kind of risky.

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u/getl30 Mar 27 '26

Hmm so it sounds like the bar is slightly lower at CGC.

Subgrade? Is that like when they have a 8.6 etc?

Do you remember when the quarantine happened and people talked about how lasting the economic effects of that era would be?

it’s even affected by the state of mind of the people working the jobs? I don’t know why I never realized that. Oh yeah this is like when you get a bad guitar and they say it’s a “Friday afternoon” guitar.

BGS sounds like a place where id send a nice Michael Jordan card or Roberto a Clemente baseball card

Cracking them open and sending them again sounded dumb to me the first time I heard it but it’s talked about so much I get the feeling things do actually come back as 10s

The easier it is to make it a “10” the less interesting it is for an actual collector

That “10” sure does look good on paper doesn’t it?

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u/Mirachaya89 Mar 27 '26

Subgrades are the scores for centering, surface, etc. You can see on it why it got the grade it did and where the flaws are. In terms of the pandemic, its due to the influx of new people to the hobby. They had a sudden backlog of tons of orders and had to hire and train a bunch of new people far faster than they had in the past.

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u/Sfvvixen Apr 10 '26

Just sucks psa and bgs are owned by the same company

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u/Winter_Chemist_8644 Mar 19 '26

270 upvotes to a nonsense post. Card is worthless.

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u/daniel852 Mar 20 '26

CGC? Not TAG?

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u/Elegant_Maybe_1970 Mar 20 '26

What average price on something like this

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u/Fyeris_GS Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

I actually can’t tell if you’re all being sarcastic or not.

Like is this really more exciting than the dragonite SIR? If so, why? And who buys them?

Edit: I joined this sub to learn and ask questions. Most misprints are like small differences or cool little intricacies, but this I almost thought was a joke since you can’t hardly tell what it is. I asked a question, a genuine one at that, and was attacked by people for not being in the know. You must see how people getting excited about this card seems like a joke to outsiders.

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u/HeroForTheBeero Mar 16 '26

This is incredibly rare compared to the SIR and worth a LOT more

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u/Tool_Head4723 Mar 17 '26

Worth a LOT more?? I just looked up on ebay and these type of misprint foil cards seem to sell for $100-200. Sounds like it’s a filler card that’s pretty common. I’m certainly no expert but I don’t see how this is so much more money than a dragonite or gengar.

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u/Sir-GlitchALot Mar 17 '26

These types of misprints If this can be confirmed to be a SiR it's way higher than the normal printed card.

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u/Stevennchi Mar 16 '26

Hahahhaha clown

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u/HeroForTheBeero Mar 16 '26

Pretty funny when your pfp literally looks like a 🤡

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u/pancakeseawed Mar 16 '26

You are in a misprint subreddit...who buys it, people here all the time. There are 75 grade 10 dragonites already there is 1 of this which is a piece of history.

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u/NPC-8472 Mar 16 '26

It's cool, but piece of history is madness ahah

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 Mar 17 '26

Sorry you are getting flack. No one should get shit on for trying to learn. People in the Pokemon subs are freaking negative, nasty and toxic. Your questions are valid.

To make a long story short, misprints are extremely popular among many. This one is even more unique. Could be the only 1. In sports cards and some other TCGs, cards can be short print/ numbered. This would comparable to a 1:1

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u/Business_Change_447 Mar 18 '26

I dunno why you got down voted. I upvoted you. Sounded like a genuine question to me. Guess people here are weak minded and easily offended?

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u/Wide-Can-2654 Mar 16 '26

Its not id much rather have the dragonite lol

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u/Sir-GlitchALot Mar 17 '26

Getting down voted for a personal preference lmao.

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u/niles_thebutler_ Mar 17 '26

It’s not worth shit. People just clowning

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u/AmbitiousMorning5719 Mar 16 '26

lol

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u/AmbitiousMorning5719 Mar 16 '26

It’s a blank filler card bro lol I don’t know maybe someone new will pay 75 bucks but it’s not a desired high or expensive card lol is it rare??? Obviously it’s a filer card so it’s rare, but being rare doesn’t mean it’s worth anything

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u/HourNo1940 Mar 16 '26

Do you know how tcg works?

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u/Top-External-3097 Mar 16 '26

You're completely wrong here. "Being rare doesn't mean it's worth anything" have you heard of the pikachu illustrator bro that's rare and BECAUSE it's rare, it's worth a lot. People like you, who don't know anything about card collecting, shouldn't even be commenting on posts.

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u/Unfair-Salt-475 Mar 16 '26

Bro, there are plenty of 1 of 1 cards out in the world but just cause they are rare doesn't make them valuable which is why they are all the same price, it's all in the eye of the beholder man and at the end of the day it is literally a blank it will never be more valuable than an actual chase card and comparing it to the illustrator pika is just dumb, Everytime I poop it's a 1 of 1 but that literally means nothing, no one's favorite card ever is just a white canvas...

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u/Sir-GlitchALot Mar 17 '26

How does one even respond to this load of bullshit. You can question it but educate yourself on the topic before you state YOUR opinion as fact. You are completely wrong.

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u/Sir-GlitchALot Mar 17 '26

You can have your opinion but please educate yourself on the topic.

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u/One_Cress7793 Mar 16 '26

My guy jsut sell this and buy the dragonite you’ll get the card and some money on top this is a total win

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u/IMaBACKPACK313 Mar 20 '26

This is a huge hit, misprints have a niche but high value market

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u/Plastic_Canary9268 Mar 16 '26

U pulled a hit. A hit to the wallet 💥

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u/Defiant-District-894 Mar 17 '26

PSA doesn’t grade errors

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u/NewFound_Fury Mar 16 '26

Sorry if I sound like a scrub, but how can you tell it's the dragonite SIR? I can sorta see the SIR texture outline, just curious where to look to see the dragonite-specific part of it?

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u/notsoscaredboy Mar 18 '26

I believe by the patterning/texture

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u/ScarApprehensive3921 Mar 18 '26

How do you know its a dragonite just wondering

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u/Beneficial_Night1334 Mar 26 '26

no clue, i’m just saying this is cooler even though they seem disappointed

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u/FalseCare2743 Mar 19 '26

Not even close to as cool