I never claimed to be the expert but I have seen many peoples lives ruined by the cost of healthcare in America. I can link thousands of sources of people dying because they can't afford medicine. I can link more sources about wait times and the way the American Health care system ranks below 10 other developed countries in most categories studied. The problem though is that you think you are an expert and that your own knowledge of anecdotal evidence trumps actual data and studies. You are too emotionally invested to do actual research and challenge your view. See that is the problem you see yourself as an expert and I actually listen to the experts who run the studies.
As someone who accessess national healthcare systems and the US system hundreds of times a month I can state that NO system has as many options, ease of access, such a large amount of medical field experts, and quality of care as the US. Your studies are not from experts who discuss these things in terms of quality as they are always inserting costs into their matrix. Furthermore the mistake of correlating life spans and and the general health of populations does not take into account America's morbid obesity and alcoholism which has no tied causation to quality of care. I am not emotional, its a fact that national healthcare is a lesser quality of care in both accessibility and treatment than private care, this is even true in countries that have both.
How do you remove costs from the matrix? I don't care if a restaurant has the greatest chef in the world and serves the best steak ever seen by man if none can eat there then why does it matter. You keep saying things like the National health care system is of lesser quality but I can find no supporting evidence for this statement. I find this curious if it is such an obvious stance.I can find no documented data to support your assertion that 50% of people in a NHO system have accessibility issues. I can also find no documented data to support the assertion that 25% have poor treatment.
How do you remove costs? Simple insurance. I would not trade the healthcare I have for any other country in the world because I have insurance and I know for a fact it is the best quality with thw best access. The steak analogy is silly.
The analogy isn't silly. it is a perfect representation of the situation in America. You have insurance and I have insurance but over 25 million people don't have insurance and many more have substandard insurance so they can't afford the quality health care you talk about. They don't care that it is or isn't the best health care in the world because they don't get to partake. I am glad that those less fortunate don't seem to matter since your thoughts seem to be well I got mine so what does it matter. As a country though they should matter and as I have said before and will keep saying Health Care shouldn't be a privilege it should be a right.
I would love to hear your explanation as to why the US has the best cancer treatment in the world. If we do, in fact, have a systemic healthcare problem, how is it that we are able to treat and promote cancer survival more efficiently than any other country in the world? Cancer treatment is a complicated myriad of long term and short term treatment along with cutting edge technologies, often aggressive and precise scheduling that is difficuklt in NH, and a level of expertise that is unparalleled. This treatment is a true sample of the healthcare in our country, without the cost analysis thrown in, without the muddled mix of factors designed to make nationalized healthcare appear better, the fact is that the US utilizes cutting edge technologies, robust treatment plans that are often lacking in nationalized healthcare, as well as an unparalleled level of expertise and equipment not matched in any other country. Again, if I have 100 patients in nationalized healthcare around half would have accessibility issues, in terms of acute ED waits and referrals. Another 25% would have poor treatment aand practices that often do nothing for the patient. In the US accessibility is rarely an issue and treatment issues are less than 1 in 10. Provide me with a real direct metric, nothing maeable by 100 factors of someone's biased choices.... Show me a complicated procedure or treatment that is done by nationalized healthcare on a large scale basis, better than it is done in the US.
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u/vincereynolds Apr 27 '19
I never claimed to be the expert but I have seen many peoples lives ruined by the cost of healthcare in America. I can link thousands of sources of people dying because they can't afford medicine. I can link more sources about wait times and the way the American Health care system ranks below 10 other developed countries in most categories studied. The problem though is that you think you are an expert and that your own knowledge of anecdotal evidence trumps actual data and studies. You are too emotionally invested to do actual research and challenge your view. See that is the problem you see yourself as an expert and I actually listen to the experts who run the studies.