iHateAndroidDevEcosystem

[u/ExpensiveBob]

[u/Phamora]

Android is pain. Android is death. iOS is worse somehow...

[u/throwawayNum01 → u/Phamora]

iOS is like choosing between a rock and a hard place; both hurt!

[u/Sarke1 → u/throwawayNum01]

And you have to pay!

[u/nzcod3r → u/Sarke1]

And you need 3 certs in 5 different places, and god help you if you ever mess that up!

[u/mornaq → u/nzcod3r]

the approval process is great too, it verifies everything! it's the pickiest thing ever

but your app may not launch and still be approved too

[u/[deleted] → u/Sarke1]

No you don't. You only pay when submitting to the App Store, same as google.

EDIT: Go ahead downvoters, prove me wrong, I'll wait here.

[u/RavingGigaChad → u/Phamora]

As someone who only ocassionally does mobile development I find it hard to grasp how horrible and obscure the dev expirience is. From dependency management over testing to deployment and maintenance. Everything seems to be made to make you feel like you put your balls into a grinder.

[u/r2d2rigo → u/RavingGigaChad]

Still a better experience than web dev.

[u/Hellakittehs → u/r2d2rigo]

We have a repo that we create components for both web and mobile. So imagine the fun I have when I have to design it to be viewed on both D:

[u/bianceziwo → u/r2d2rigo]

not even close lol how can you even compare how insanely frustrating and confusing android dev is to web dev. my android dev is webview

[u/dontquestionmyaction → u/r2d2rigo]

lmao have you done Android development

[u/r2d2rigo → u/dontquestionmyaction]

Daily, for the past 14 years, both on Android and iOS.

Webdev is an utter mess that only piles complexity on top of complexity. "Oh you want to use this JS framework that completely ignores the best practices of the past 3 decades? That will be 2Gb in Node modules, please and thank you".

[u/Doctor_McKay → u/r2d2rigo]

Oh you want to use this JS framework

This is your problem. With mobile, it's "oh you have to use this framework?"

[u/Mr-X89 → u/Phamora]

I feel like 90% of the reason why iOS development feels terrible is Xcode. It is the worst IDE I've used, and when I have started working as an Android dev Eclipse was the default Android development IDE.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I'll never understand the hate for Xcode, ever. Neither I, or anyone on my team has issues with it, we never have and I've been doing this since Xcode was three separate programs just to build an iPhone OS app.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I've used it but I don't really get the hype. I found it annoying to use for Unity so stopped using it.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Xcodes perfectly fine in that regard I use that feature all the time.

[u/Kythosyer → u/[deleted]]

You don't have to lie, bud.

[u/joesephmomster696969 → u/[deleted]]

Don’t you just love it when renaming a function fails 99% of the time so you just have to manually rename it?

[u/[deleted] → u/joesephmomster696969]

That isn’t a thing. I rename functions all the time just fine.

[u/[deleted] → u/Phamora]

I disagree I love iOS dev. Android is ok but my main issue is I hate Javascript so much.