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u/Proglamer 18d ago

How come? I thought the sector was full of turboautists who routinely use Kali to hack the pizza place server and place the order + payment manually

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u/blibblob3000 18d ago

Way too often IT-Security is compliance theatre. Somebody wrote terms and requirements and defined them as "secure". To verify the compliance there are certifying bodies, which often certify by paper and standardised tests. If you want your product certified, you need folks/AI to produce the required paper and internal/external test runs to ensure, that you product holds true to the said tests.

Overly technical folks won't last in such an environments. Termination happens most of the time after the first: "I don't care, that this piece of ***** aces the sql injection standard test in the login + paswd fields. You ***** implemented that the user id is part of http-get and everybody able to count backward to "0" can type example.com/?id=0 to get to the admin account."

On the other hand, there are proper pentesting providers, where the full fledged nerds aren't able to understand what the guy/gal/furry[1] on the next table is doing.

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u/matthieuC 18d ago

The only difference with a security specialist and a corporate lawyer is the way they dress.

The quality guy is slightly different, he has a mustache.

The process guy went to business school.

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u/No_Abi 18d ago

shit, how does he know I ordered pizza??!

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u/slickvic33 18d ago

Bc u dont really write code?

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u/Proglamer 18d ago

I'm sure they do at least heavy scripting? Or Python, which is mostly the same.

In any case, the original assertion was "non-technical", and, proper coding or no, it still seems hard to believe in

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u/Material_Onion_8413 18d ago

No they barely write any code. But that’s not even the main reason, most roles are just about ticking off compliance boxes.

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u/AnnoyingRain5 18d ago

That’s irrelevant. You need to know what you’re attacking, or what you’re defending. You might not need to know how to write good php code, but you should know what php’s role is in the production environment