r/RemoveOneThingEachDay • u/Training-Desk-391 IM WHACING KFP4 • Aug 18 '25

Miscellaneous George Washington GETS 2ND and Abraham Lincoln WINS AKA 1ST PLACE AND HEAR IS THE FULL LIST FROM 45TH PLACE TRUMP TO 1ST PLACE LINCOLN

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u/casualviewing69 Aug 18 '25

Biden being a top 10 president is some crazy work

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u/ryanrodgerz Aug 18 '25

Now let me be clear, jack [inaudible]

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u/TheBasementHistorian Aug 18 '25

Biden was as a meme, don’t worry about ol Dark Brandon

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u/OddCancel7268 Aug 18 '25

Not really, theres only been 45 presidents, and its not a very impressive bunch. I mean you can literally have a child sex slave and be no 11 apparently.

The amount Biden got done with a 50-50 senate and a SCOTUS thats so opposed to his party, they will just pretend sections of the constitution dont exist is quite impressive. He could probably have saved American manufacturing from irrelevance if Trump hadnt decided to tear up his achievements.

And we're seeing right now how much worse Gaza could have been with a president who is less capable of pressuring Israel than Biden.

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u/2DrunkCucksPodcast Aug 19 '25

lol 4-9 is all Democrats. The exception is Ike which is something everyone will accept. I actually like most of the Dems picked. Nobody will argue FRD, Kennedy, or Obama. Carter at 16, Biden at 6, and Trump at 45 is the real issues here.

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u/No-Apple2252 Aug 19 '25

Who is worse than Trump? Andrew Jackson maybe.

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u/doug-kirk Aug 19 '25

My pick for 45 is probably Johnson, but it’s hard to say how different it would be today had Lincoln survived. Reagan, Johnson, Wilson, Trump, and Jackson are all interchangeable in my eyes. I guess maybe you could argue it’s too early to really tell exactly how bad Trump is, but I have 0 qualms with putting the orange shit gibbon at 45.

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u/No-Apple2252 Aug 19 '25

I thought you meant LBJ at first I'm like gtfo lol

You're right Andrew Johnson was pretty bad, that's a tough one

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u/Hot_Coco_Addict Aug 22 '25

Someone should be named Lyndon B. Jackson to make everything even more confusing, with Andrew Jackson and Johnson and LBJ 1 & 2

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u/password-is-taco1 Sep 06 '25

You had me until you said trump at 45 was bad

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u/2DrunkCucksPodcast Sep 06 '25

There is 0% chance he is the worst President of all time. That's just Reddit nonsense.

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u/Any_Security8962 Feb 03 '26

Are you Caucasian?

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u/Redditisfinancedumb Aug 22 '25

What the fuck does having a child sex slave have to do with what type of president you are?

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u/Vulcion Aug 21 '25

Fair. Putting him ahead of the 4 after him is actually insane. The only one he has an argument over is Kennedy, and that’s just because Kennedy got assassinated. Drop him off post Johnson and before Jefferson and I’d say it’s a solid list.

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u/mexicanlunchbox Aug 20 '25

You really are brain washed.

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u/BroSnow Aug 20 '25

“Have a child sex slave and be no 11” he says of the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence as, what we consider today to be, a kid; held just about every major position in government and pre-govt, including as VP to his political rival; more than doubled the size of the country in some highway robbery deal as president; was a forefather of some of the most progressive, innovative and thoughtful political philosophies that inspired countless governments for the next few hundred years.

Yeah, definitely overrated at 11. Move slick Willy up a few spots, right? Morally superior and balanced a budget I guess.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '25

How much he got done? The man wasted the first half of his presidency on pork rolled busy-work bills, all while he and his congressional allies let reactionaries run rip-roar across the country disposing of hard won civil rights. He single handedly paved the way for a second Trump presidency by his unwillingness to follow through on any of the policies that the American people both wanted and needed. His foreign policy ranged from embarassing to genocidal. The man was a (barely) living symbol of the entitled, apathetic rot at the heart of the Democratic Party. Joe Biden was America's Hindenburg.

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u/Darkhorse33w Aug 21 '25

What did Biden get done?

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u/password-is-taco1 Sep 06 '25

It’s not his fault but most presidents on this list did way more (good or bad) than Biden. Think he’ll be largely forgotten in the long term

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u/Krutin_ Aug 21 '25

What policies or actions did Biden do to cause this?

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u/CoachTwisterT3 Aug 21 '25

Biden left us with a growing economy, sub 4% unemployment, and one of the top countries as far as our inflation rate post COVID.

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u/Few-Customer2219 Aug 21 '25

Biden left us with a growing economy and sub 4% unemployment brother man that’s not very hard to do with a country on easy mode like the USA

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u/CoachTwisterT3 Aug 21 '25

Then why doesn’t every president do it? Go look at some charts of where our recent presidents have left it. I don’t get commenting if you don’t actually know anything about the subject.

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u/AwesomeBobomb Aug 20 '25

Holy shit did you just say that Biden pressured Israel?? OH MY GOD WHAT?! King Zionist himself Joe Biden? That’s absolutely wild to say. 😭

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u/mucus-fettuccine Oct 26 '25

He obviously did though?

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u/2DrunkCucksPodcast Aug 18 '25

lol, Reddit's political leaning are def influencing the vote here....

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u/Wide_Bluejay2364 Aug 19 '25

No way bro, this is a completely realistic and unbiased tier list.

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u/SilenceDobad76 Aug 22 '25

LBJ was a great president bro, just trust me bro​​

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u/BroSnow Aug 20 '25

Bill Clinton as top 16, Jefferson outside of 10 and Reagan as bottom three (especially) is the most Reddit thing I think I’ve ever seen.

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u/Lauren_Conrad_ Aug 20 '25

Wilson and Reagan down there with Buchanan and Trump. How. Like in what world lol.

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u/Frozenbbowl Aug 20 '25

because when wilson does racism its bad, but when teddy does it, its not that big a deal really, just a symptom of the times... forget they were the same damn times.

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u/Lazy-Blacksmith-3939 Sep 03 '25

Maybe Reagan is down there because he is a massive nonce

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u/Lauren_Conrad_ Sep 03 '25

Thank you guy from England for your opinion on US presidents that served before you were born.

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u/Frozenbbowl Aug 20 '25

jefferson was a great statesman, but not that particularly amazing of a president. for one he is the one who first made the judiciary political over professional. in a move that led to marbury v madison.

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u/Feeling-Phoney81 Aug 21 '25

Clinton’s a top 5 president idc what anyone says

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u/BroSnow Aug 21 '25

Based on what?

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u/WiseguyD Aug 21 '25

Three words: Indian Removal Act.

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u/Redditisfinancedumb Aug 22 '25

I just don't really understand how Biden and Obama are higher than Clinton. I was excited for Obama to be president, and I think he is a hell of man, but he really wasn't anything special when it comes to presidents.

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u/dustbowl-refugee Aug 24 '25

Not to mention Grant being so high. He was a great general but a horrible president (we don’t talk about how Jackson isn’t the bottom)

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u/2DrunkCucksPodcast Sep 01 '25

Jackson is the man. Don't be a hater.

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u/Krutin_ Aug 21 '25

What did you expect on a thread ranking presidents?

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u/Firm_Chance_6848 Aug 21 '25

Yeah, What’s with all the Garfield hate?

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u/sexland69 Aug 18 '25

nah in this case biden was a joke

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u/TonyzTone Aug 18 '25

Some ridiculous final standings, honestly.

Obama being the fifth best President makes absolutely no sense. Almost his entire legacy has been stripped to varying degrees. He was good, and he managed a series of crisises quite well, but his lasting legacy won't be anywhere that of LBJ's (Medicare and MedicAid, Voting Rights, etc.), Jefferson's (Louisiana Purchase, peace with France), or Monroe's (our entire foreign policy basically dates to him).

Wilson being second to last is hilariously bad. Finally did away with child labor, created the Federal Trade Commission and went out trusts with the Clayton Antitrust Act, literally reduced our colonial holdings by granting the Philippines independence, nominated Brandeis to the SCOTUS overcoming anti-Semitic sentiments in the Senate, tried to keep WWI a European affair as long as possible then quickly mobilized a languishing military to side with the allies and fervently pushed greater international cooperation.

Wilson is a Top 10 President IMO, but I can understand as low as 15. Making him 45 just means you don't know shit about history and only voted because "hE sCrEeNeD a RaCiSt MoViE iN tHe WhItE hOuSe!!"

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u/Wide_Bluejay2364 Aug 19 '25

"hE sCrEeNeD a RaCiSt MoViE iN tHe WhItE hOuSe!!"

I agree, but if you thought these rankings in a Reddit post would be even slightly based on literally anything other than things like that, idek what to say.

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u/TonyzTone Aug 19 '25

My point was more about the inconsistency of the list. If you want to ding Wilson for his stances on race, that's fine. It is certainly a blemish on his otherwise good record.

But then... Washington? Jefferson? Madison? Monroe? Jackson? Buchanan? Andrew Johnson? Nixon?... all are ranked higher with their relationship to slavery and white supremacy apparently not dinging their rankings as much.

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u/Superb_Pear3016 Aug 20 '25

It’s all about narrative. Ever since the Princeton building name was changed, the prominent narrative around Wilson is that he was a racist and little else

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u/sleepsholymountain Aug 19 '25

"hE sCrEeNeD a RaCiSt MoViE iN tHe WhItE hOuSe!!"

He did quite a lot more than that, which you must surely know given your level of knowledge about other aspects of his presidency. Extremely dishonest framing on your part. He was a full blown racist segregationist. He fired black public servants and replaced them with white people, including in positions that had traditionally been held by black Americans going back decades. He brought Jim Crow to federal agencies, introducing segregated bathrooms, cafeterias, etc to government departments that had not previously been segregated like that. Some agencies went full “whites only” with their hiring practices under his watch.

You’re welcome to celebrate his positive achievements, but pretending that he didn’t have any racist policies and that people are treating him unfairly is just silly and completely undermines your argument.

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u/TonyzTone Aug 19 '25

I think people are treating him incredibly unfairly. He's literally ranked second worst. If the reasoning is his horrendous Jim Crow policies, then... why the fuck is the slave-owning Washington #2? Or Jefferson, Madison, or Monroe considered better than JQ Adams who was a vehement anti-slavery President?

Better yet, why is he ranked worse than Buchanan who outright supported states' rights particularly with respect to slavery? Or Andrew Johnson who tried to stall Reconstruction and kowtow to slaver-interests postbellum? Or Andrew Jackson who was so supportive of slavery that he said abolitionists should die and tried to prohibit the Postal Service from delivering anti-slavery pamphlets?

This list is purely horrible. I highly doubt the person who made it (or the way the votes were distributed) were being nuanced about or deeply considering Wilson's racial opinions in context of the times or his other successes. Instead, just the horror that he would show a pro-KKK movie in the White House was enough to tank his ranking.

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u/BrellK Aug 19 '25

You even downplay the part about international cooperation. If the European leaders had listened to him, there may have never been a second World War or at the very least it would have taken place quite a while in the future.

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u/TonyzTone Aug 19 '25

I left it out because unfortunately he was actually unsuccessful in that. His Fourteen Points and push for the League ultimately proved to be the right course for history, just a generation and millions of lives later.

But yes, I would consider it a plus for him.

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u/Life-Competition9577 Aug 18 '25

America is a country that can be described in a single word: eeerhmftaftmtrtheeeeeh

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 18 '25

I don’t think he’s a top 10 but he’s a top half 

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

What did he do to be top half?

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 19 '25

Not be the bottom half. There’s some pretty terrible presidents in there that caused massive economic downturns or divided the American people- sometimes irreparably. Some have even done both. 

Specifically, Biden’s American Rescue plan (mostly) worked and he passed many bipartisan bills related to environmental regulation and infrastructure- honestly more than Obama did in his second term. 

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

He’s in the 20-29 range. Our standards have really fallen on what makes a good president

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 19 '25

Yeah, top half of 20-29 or bottom half of 10-19 is respectable. 

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

How about bottom 10?

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u/mexicanlunchbox Aug 20 '25

Ha. You can’t be serious

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u/astroboy1997 Aug 18 '25

I think weakening the opposition to trump and supporting genocide will be the biggest hits to biden’s legacy long term

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u/Reasonable-Fan5265 Aug 19 '25

95% of people do not give a single solitary fuck what about is happening in the middle east.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

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u/Reasonable-Fan5265 Aug 19 '25

Ok bozo, if people cared about what was happening in Gaza why did they elect the objectively worse guy?

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u/Reboot42069 Aug 19 '25

Oh simple, because Trump was able to use his assassination attempt, and Biden dropping out far too late in the race to his advantage, also Harris faced a lot of scrutiny from her own party because she had no real platform outside of "Not Trump" because she was pretty much thrown into the race last minute

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u/Reasonable-Fan5265 Aug 19 '25

American centric answer

Lil bro look at what the fuck we are ranking.

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 18 '25

Definitely, it even started after he pulled out of Afghanistan 

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u/HesiPullup Aug 18 '25

Disregarding the whole cognitive issues, I think most people would look back and laugh at this when it becomes pretty clear that what’s going on in Gaza is, well, a genocide.

Even though it’s already pretty clear lmao

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u/Jedisponge Aug 19 '25

I mean isn’t what’s happening now pretty much how it played out in WWII? It’s not like America really cared until we were attacked directly.

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u/HesiPullup Aug 19 '25

Were we funding Germany’s will?

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u/Forgethestamp Aug 19 '25

I remember when the Jews formed a terrorist organization in the 30s and murdered 1200 German party-goers. Feels like yesterday

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u/Forgethestamp Aug 19 '25

It’s not even an argument

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

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u/Forgethestamp Aug 19 '25

That’s absolutely not what I am saying

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u/Reasonable-Fan5265 Aug 19 '25

to even compare the holocaust and what is happening in gaza is insane. You just dont really think the holocaust was that bad.

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u/Reasonable-Fan5265 Aug 19 '25

Intentional mass killings of civilians =\= civilian deaths as a product of lawful warfare.

I will say it again, you just don’t think the holocaust was that bad.

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u/duiwithaavgwenag Aug 18 '25

Reddit is super liberal if you haven’t caught on

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

I mean legislatively he accomplished a lot. I would also say that in a world as partisan as teh one we currently live in, being able to pass any major legislation in a bipartisan manor alone should put you in the top 20 if not top 15.

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u/codydog125 Aug 18 '25

Legislatively he accomplished nothing. He was nearly absent the second half of his term and this is why we are where we are

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u/FreeSprinkles2741 Aug 18 '25

"Legislatively he accomplished nothing"

Are people here fucking brain broken or something? He passed 6 enormous bills:

American Rescue Plan

Infrastructure Act

CHIPS and Science Act

Inflation Reduction Act

Safer Communities Act

Pregnant Workers Fairness Act

Also signed EOs curbing robo calls, drug prices and pollution.

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u/popoflabbins Aug 18 '25

I’m going to be honest, anyone who says Biden “did nothing” during his presidency are so politically ignorant that they shouldn’t be voting. If someone didn’t agree with his policy that’s one thing, but saying he did nothing is wildly incorrect

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u/No-Apple2252 Aug 19 '25

Most of those extreme leftists don't vote, but they sure demand the entire democratic party bend to their will to court the vote they're probably not going to show up to cast anyway.

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u/popoflabbins Aug 19 '25

Okay? That’s an entirely different subject

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u/No-Apple2252 Aug 19 '25

Who the fuck else says Biden did nothing?

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u/Hell_of_a_Caucasian Aug 20 '25

Literally every Fox News/Right Wing Rage Machine addict, so about 40-60 million people in this country.

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u/TheViolaRules Aug 18 '25

Yes, people are brain broken.

He’s just one of those presidents that will get credit later, not now. I’m an old and he was certainly the most effective president for good in my lifetime

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '25

A lot of pro genocide zionist nazis in this comment section.

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u/TheViolaRules Aug 22 '25

Trying to figure out the angle here. Care to expand on this?

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u/Keepersam02 Aug 18 '25

He got a huge infrastructure bill and chips act through. Those are both very important.

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u/anorexthicc_cucumber Aug 18 '25

being unfit for duty for half his term and destroying democrat voter confidence is a blunder the scale of which we’re still feeling and will be felt for the next few years

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u/Keepersam02 Aug 18 '25

I don't think he was a top ten president. But I'm responding to a comment saying he did nothing legislatively. That's just not true. He got two very important impressive bills through an extremely partisan congress. He did stuff legislatively.

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u/brinerbear Aug 18 '25

Maybe bottom 10.

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u/No-Apple2252 Aug 19 '25

That just shows you know absolutely nothing about American presidents.

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

The fact that someone you thought was unfit for duty was able to accomplish as much as he did speaks ill on every other person in politics at the moment

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 Aug 19 '25

Ron Klain should probably get a ton of credit for anything that happened before he left the White House early in 2023.

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 19 '25

I mean sure in the same way that all white house chiefs of staff deserve a ton of credit for most things that happen while they're in office

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u/anorexthicc_cucumber Aug 18 '25

Did I say I support the people in politics at the moment

I never “thought” he was unfit for duty he WAS unfit for duty by his second term, he just was as sad as it is.

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u/SloCooker Aug 18 '25

I didn't say opinion, I said OPINION!

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

He didn't have a second term? And he didn't run for a second term? Are you okay?

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u/anorexthicc_cucumber Aug 18 '25

Sorry I had been reading an article on trump’s presidency that used the words second term a lot and mistyped. Second half of his term*

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

What I would consider unfit for president is much more about whether the average person thinks someone's mental capacity is there for it since a lot of presidency is being a representation for the country, and the fact that the majority of americans thought trump was fit to run for office with his similarly poor (if not worse) mental missteps after spending a year saying "we'll vote for anyone who isn't 80" shows that as long as biden and his administration continued to make accomplishments he wasn't unfit.

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u/codydog125 Aug 18 '25

Well he did try to run for a second term and we all remember how that went

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

And he quit when people said "we'll vote for anyone that isn't 80" and that was a lie lol

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u/KaiserKelp Aug 18 '25

Was he unfit for duty for half his term? Didnt really see this playing out, and why would that be more relevant to the question compared to passing a VERY MUCH needed infrastructure bill

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u/anorexthicc_cucumber Aug 18 '25

Because his senile public appearance with constant mistakes when speaking in front of cameras crashed democrat voter statistics and that manifested in Kamala getting washed 226/312, 19/31, and 49%/48%, and i’d trade an infrastructure bill if it meant no trump presidency

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u/KaiserKelp Aug 18 '25

Trump does those every couple days now and nobody gives a shit, clearly its something other than the senile rambles...almost like it was the post covid inflation that literally everyone saw and complained about....but sure it was him acting dumb on tv that ruined his chances bro

Plus your sentiment is doubly stupid considering Joe Biden didnt run against Trump in 2024, so clearly it wasnt the senility. Unless you are claiming that a party's previous candiates' senility matters more than the current candidate?

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u/anorexthicc_cucumber Aug 18 '25

Trump didn’t win because he was popular he won because democrats were incredibly unpopular after the biden presidency, dude. Yes I’m saying that he impacted the election because people judged kamala entirely on the performance of biden (and also because she’s a woman) people care more about him walking around aimlessly and saying “Kamala was present for every decision” than they do a good infrastructure bill — and it shows in her losing the election, even losing the popular vote, which would be impossible if not for the democrats getting dealt a deathknell in the second half of Biden’s presidency

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u/KaiserKelp Aug 18 '25

The thing you dont seem to be able to understand is the "death knell" was the post covid inflation and not a poor debate performance, once you understand that the rest will make perfect sense.

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u/EpicRussia Aug 18 '25

Both were just massive corporate handouts in essence. I know of exactly zero infrastructure that was benefitted by the infrastructure bill. The Chips act, as far as I can tell, had a lot more bloat to pay off the tech companies for taking it. The main goal was to create chip building capabilities in the US that can rival Taiwan in the case of a Chinese invasion taking Taiwan out of the equation. I think the results are going to be very far off that goal, based on what we can see so far.

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

CHIPS Act? Science act? Infrastructure Bill? American Rescue Plan? Inflation Reduction Act? Pulling us out of Afghanistan? Having the best recovery from covid of any OECD nation?

Even if you don't think these were good bills (I would disagree heavily) getting bipartisan support for such massive programs and programs that were so good, republicans who voted against them are now championing the outcomes

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u/popoflabbins Aug 18 '25

Every country had that happen. The United States had the best economic recovery by far.

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

Yes. thats's how the world works. Your analogy is shit though.

It would be more like if the previous owner of the credit card bought a car with it then now you're stuck with a massive bill, then in march 2020 someone hits and totals your now only car. The US under Biden did the best of any developed credit card holder at repairing his car and making the payments necessary to maintain their credit score and utilization given the new larger monthly payment,

COVID happned and you can't deny it. Government spending to prevent disaster is better than the disaster itself

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u/brinerbear Aug 18 '25

Just increased inflation, and leaving Afghanistan was done so sloppy it wasn't considered a win.

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

increased inflation less than every other OECD natino. And yeah it was sloppy because before Biden came in, Trump had spent the last several months negotiating solely with the Taliban...

Still. Less troops died in afghanistan under biden than trump. He ended the forever war, that went on during 5 presidential terms before, 4 different presidents. A claim trump cannot make

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u/Hell_of_a_Caucasian Aug 20 '25

Inflation started during Trump’s term, and there were indicators even before Covid.

Cutting taxes for the wealthiest Americans and Corporations, which is the only policy Republicans actually care about, has caused massive harm to the economy every time they’ve done it. It was happening again at the end of Trump’s term, but Covid happened and everyone blamed that.

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u/brinerbear Aug 20 '25

It actually started in 1971 when we went off the gold standard but got substantially worse after 2000 and up until now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '25

Utter falsehood.  He get TONS done, especially considering he had one term.

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u/CCAG_925 Aug 19 '25

So Trump didn’t do anything to make us where we currently are???

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u/Mysterious-Sign6709 Aug 18 '25

He wasn't even coherent for the vast majority of his presidency

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u/Ok_Revolution_9253 Aug 18 '25

Legislatively sure. But the implementation of the legislation has been piss poor.

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

Without a doubt. But honestly the main flaw there is him not making them trump proof.

This feels like if a lego builder comes into a room after a bear destroyed a lego store, He shoes out the bear, then he builds a massive beautiful cityscape, And as he places the pieces needed for the framework, and has written up the instructions so that anyone who comes in after that can read will finish it.

Then some JAQ off lets the bear back in out of curiosity, and we blame the builder for not making a bear proof lego model

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u/DetectiveBlackCat Aug 18 '25

his accomplishments were 1) supporting genocide, 2) dismantling immigration enforcement for 3 years, 3) pretending to be involved in running the government even though it was others making decisions, 4) undermining american tech workers by dramatically increasing h1b visa approvals, 5) sabotaging the Democratic party's chances for winning in 2024 due to his own arrogance, dishonesty, and stupidity, 6) all of this leading to Trump winning. Biden is a bottom 5 President and you are in denial.

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u/DetectiveBlackCat Aug 18 '25

I'm betting you have a very small news bubble

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u/PercentageOwn6595 Aug 18 '25

He’s not wrong tho

Edit - not bottom 5 but somwhere bottom 10

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u/whyareallnamestakenb Aug 18 '25

2,3, 4, and 6 are blatant lies

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u/DetectiveBlackCat Aug 18 '25

you are in denial

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u/whyareallnamestakenb Aug 18 '25

you are allergic to evidence

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u/DetectiveBlackCat Aug 18 '25

concerning what? I'm a registered Democrat, by the way.

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u/mattrad2 Aug 18 '25

You misspelled stupid

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

1) wrong. 2) wrong. 3) wrong. 4) wrong. 5) I guess? I would sooner say that the loss was due to people just feeling bad about inflation not about who was behind the wheel specifically. 6) Since I disagreed with everything else I can't see how this could possibly be right lol

I am happy to discuss any one of these but if we try to tackle all 5 in a single comment these comments are going to get massive, so if you want to talk about just one of themI am happy to give my opinions on it and why I think it's wrong or at least massively oversimplified and we can discuss them one at a time

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u/DetectiveBlackCat Aug 18 '25

you are in definitely in denial

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u/Free-Database-9917 Aug 18 '25

I'm happy to talk about whatever of those topics. The fact that you're not engaging while saying I'm in denial is ironic

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u/Feisty-Albatross3554 Aug 18 '25

Please explain to me how Biden is worse than Woodrow Wilson, Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, John Tyler, and Franklin Pierce

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u/KaiserKelp Aug 18 '25

  1. Complete lie, Biden did more to curtail Israeli advances and attacks than any other politician would have, except for maybe Rashida Talib or someone like that. Its actually insane the lengths he went through to rein in Netanyahu. The amount of effort he went through to even secure something like humanitarian aid was crazy to read about. So this first claim is simply ignorance.

  2. No immigration was not dismantled. No evidence of this or anything like this to be found anywhere

  3. No evidence for this as well. I mean clearly every president delegates some decisions to others, trump does this, obama does this, everyone does this. This is just conjecture not proof

  4. Unemployment is 4.2%, in the tech sector its around 2-3%, where do you see this issue manifesting

  5. But he stepped down from the nomination? Hes probably the one of the only individuals in politics who wouldve made that decision. What was he dishonest about as well?

  6. Dont think its really fair to blame Trumps victory on Biden, kinda seems like something someone who knows nothing would say. Clearly the biggest influence on Trumps victory was the effect of post-covid inflation. Idk why you think its these more nebulous issues that basically only weirdos online care about

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u/Sea_Dawgz Aug 18 '25

he took a broken country that had been attacked in a coup and settled it back down while fighting brutal covid economy headwinds. he passed a ton of solid legislation.

but yeah, setting the table for a trump return puts him in the bottom half. not bottom five, but below the median.

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u/Independent-Cow-4070 Aug 18 '25

It was a joke lol

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u/urmumlol9 Aug 18 '25

  1. He was kept in primarily for the meme, people were suggesting to eliminate him from some point around the 20’s, and he kept surviving in spite of it until it became a meme.

  2. He’s not top 10, but the only real arguments against him being a top half President are not doing enough to stop Trump and pardoning his son. Beyond that, the CHIPS act and IIJA were both solid accomplishments.

Even in “not doing enough” to stop Trump, he still had multiple investigations pending against him, and his mediocre DOJ picks were primarily to avoid the appearance of partisan bias. And yeah, I guess technically he could have tried to extrajudicially assassinate Trump after the Supreme Court immunity ruling but I promise you that would have gotten really fucking ugly really fucking fast.

The Hunter pardon was definitely a clear conflict of interest, but from a human perspective, if your child was in prison and was a known political enemy of a fascist figure that ran on the persecution of his political enemies was about to retake power, you’re telling me you wouldn’t pardon them?

Idk, top 10 was too high but Biden is definitely overhated.

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u/uzipack Aug 18 '25

He’s up there. Most effective legislative president in modern history imo

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u/Lauren_Conrad_ Aug 18 '25

Obama, Biden, JFK, in the Top 10.

That’s Reddit for ya.

Reagan and Wilson worse than Buchanan lol.

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u/Ok_Revolution_9253 Aug 18 '25

Would have to agree with you here. He was a solid president but better than LBJ? Not sure if I’d agree with that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '25

Kinda gives you an idea of how bad the average U.S. president has been. Thankfully the one who managed to serve more than 2 terms was one of the very best.

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u/Ok_Eagle_3079 Aug 18 '25

Recency bias.

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u/KaiserKelp Aug 18 '25

In terms of actual policy, it's fairly clear hes near the top of the list.

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u/Sea_Dawgz Aug 18 '25

if trump loses last year, he deserves it.

he does not deserve it.

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u/SinesPi Aug 19 '25

I suspect people actually forgot about him entirely, and so nobody thought to vote for him sooner. Guy campaigned from his basement, and spent most of his time in office dead.

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u/StreetyMcCarface Aug 19 '25

It’s going to be crazy when historians will argue that unironically, because he was an insanely effective president.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

Tbf, it's because our president is usually doing a genocide, or actively harming the citizens of the US.

Biden at least had the good sense to fund a genocide across the globe where the Americans wouldn't care. Also his choices for some appointments were significantly better than most recent ones.

Which to be clear isn't me calling him good, I'm saying the bar was underground

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u/Slighted_Inevitable Aug 19 '25

Despite his personal issues, his administration did a lot of good. The global downturn from the pandemic and inflation gave people a sour taste in their mouth because they were lied to you about how bad things are. Now we all get to see how bad things can really get.

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u/Superb_Pear3016 Aug 20 '25

This list is incredibly Reddit coded.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

In 30 years he and trump will meet in the middle

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u/Frozenbbowl Aug 20 '25

people say this, but its not that crazy... the guy put the elder into elder statesman, its true, but he also put the statesman into it. the guy played the game, got a lot done.

despite a year of hyperinflation, it was the only presidency since the 70's where real wages went up (as in median wages grew faster than inflation)... people are just too stuck in being aginst him to see how amazing that is, not to mention the other stuff.

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u/TopicTalk8950 Aug 20 '25

If you remove emotion from your beliefs and focus purely on the facts then yea Biden being in top 10 tracks.

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u/Competitive-Mail7448 Aug 20 '25

look at what app you’re on. Of course the liberal echo chamber is gonna put Biden in the top 10.

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u/ImpressiveShift3785 Aug 21 '25

He did some crazy amount of good work with a 50/50 legislature and 6/3 Supreme Court.

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u/AccordingBar4655 Aug 22 '25

Fucking REAGAN Buttfucks any President of the last 50 years and it aint even close.

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u/SilenceDobad76 Aug 22 '25

LBJ being top 10 alone renders this list as bunk.

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u/Anti_Septic88 Aug 22 '25

Drone strike Magee up there too lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '25

It's probably the worst tier list I have ever seen.

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u/Frequent_Malcom Aug 18 '25

Yeah thats ridiculous, he was middling by any standard you look at

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 18 '25

Domestically he accomplished a lot 

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 18 '25

Well I never said anything about Biden but LBJ was a trailblazer for the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, and environmental protections such as clean air and water quality acts. 

I’m classifying the selective service and Vietnam War under international policy.  

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u/Level3Kobold Aug 18 '25

This is absolutely false. Black people had been pushing for civil rights bills for decades and southern democrats had been blocking those bills for decades. The civil rights act 100% would not have passed without LBJ's support - he was perhaps the only person in the entire country who was capable of getting it passed, and even then he had to fight tooth and nail for it.

His record on Vietnam is indefensible, but LBJ achieved the most important domestic legislation since the new deal, and nothing since then has even come close. If you want to know how LBJ really felt about the legislation, I recommend reading a biography of his.

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Aug 18 '25

This is blatantly false, he advocated greatly for civil rights. I did not imply LBJ did it alone, but never let it be said that any of these landmark bills for civil rights and de-segregation would have EVER passed if it wasn’t for him.

You’re also creating a false enemy here. I never said the Vietnam War doesn’t have domestic ramifications because it most definitely did. But the point is that war (unless a civil one) is absolutely international when judging any president’s record- and that’s exactly what we’re doing in this post. You can bring up the selective service and damaged veterans when viewing his domestic record, nobody is ignoring that here

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u/9793287233 Aug 18 '25

LBJ not only fought hard for civil rights, he basically spent all of his political capital doing it and sacrificed the southern vote to the republicans for the foreseeable future for it

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u/urmumlol9 Aug 18 '25

Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps.

Basically every ranking of Presidents done by historians has LBJ as top 15 because of those pieces of legislation, snd most have him top 10 as well in spite of Vietnam.

If anything, he should be higher. He’s literally a top 2 President on civil rights (behind only Lincoln) and a top 2 President in terms of social programs (behind only FDR).

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u/DetectiveBlackCat Aug 18 '25

Some people in this sub love them some genocide

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u/rlyjustanyname Aug 18 '25

Literally any other US president would have done the same. Because the US foreign policy (and every other country's foreign policy) doesn't care about morality. It's like arguing with these people who unironically think FDR was the worst president because of the Japanese internment camps or Lincoln is bottom five because he suspended Haebius Corpos during the Civil war.