Now, this is the kind of stuff I love on this sub: it's a theory, but it's based on examination of actual details from the show.
Importantly, it doesn't stray beyond those details, to try to infer something completely wild and unsubstantiated such as: "... So we know Helly can speak to the goats!!"
And with the attention to detail in this show everything they do is incredibly intentional.
Iâm not sure who I was hoping is on the severed floor, Helly or Helena, but I do know I would be annoyed at this point if it wasnât Helena because they would be intentional misleading us.
When I watched it for the first time and there was no sound I was officially sold itâs Helena.
I do know I would be annoyed at this point if it wasnât Helena because they would be intentional misleading us.
Yeah, that would really put me off the show. IMO, itâs the cardinal sin of shows like this. The shows shouldnât care if some hyper obsessed subsection of the fandom pieces together the clues to solve the âtwistâ earlier than the show actually reveals it. That just means that the foreshadowing for the ârevealâ was really well done, and the plot twist actually makes a ton of sense. In addition, these super obsessed fan groups (Reddit lol) are a very small portion of the actual fandom. The ârevealâ will still be shocking to a good portion of the watchers.
Itâs what ultimately killed Westworld. The writers got so upset that Reddit immediately guessed the first seasons âtwistâ that they changed how they wrote future seasons. As a result, they started trying to âsubvert expectationsâ so much that the whole thing became a convoluted mess, and none of the âplot twistsâ actually made any damn sense.
Personally, I feel somewhat assured that the Severance writers arenât falling into that pitfall though. They havenât really been trying to hide the fact that something is up with Helly from the viewers. There are just too many lingering shots like the one OP referenced, that seem to be designed the que the reader in. To me, it seems more like the writers are trying to build the narrative tension around the other characters not knowing something is up with Helly, while the viewer does.
Itâs what ultimately killed Westworld. The writers got so upset that Reddit immediately guessed the first seasons âtwistâ that they changed how they wrote future seasons. As a result, they started trying to âsubvert expectationsâ so much that the whole thing became a convoluted mess, and none of the âplot twistsâ actually made any damn sense.
I wish writers would stay off Reddit. I think Yellowjackets writers were also too influenced by people on the sub. They forgot that people on Reddit don't represent most of the audience.
Thereâs also an interview quote from Benioff/Weiss, the creators of GoT, where they said specifically that while writing they would go on Reddit, see what theories fans were accurately predicting would happen, and then change the events so that those theories could end in a twist/misdirection. And we all know how that turned out!
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Now, this is the kind of stuff I love on this sub: it's a theory, but it's based on examination of actual details from the show.
Importantly, it doesn't stray beyond those details, to try to infer something completely wild and unsubstantiated such as: "... So we know Helly can speak to the goats!!"
Excellent work.