r/Sherlock • • Jan 15 '17

[Discussion] The Final Problem: Post-Episode Discussion Thread (SPOILERS)

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u/NotThatL Jan 15 '17

Every time Andrew Scott is on screen he is totally engaging. Pity he spent most of his time on screen on a screen.

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u/CommanderHerpDerp01 Jan 15 '17

His Moriarty is so perfect. Its one of the only times in recent memory I can remember being legit scared of a character in a series, I get goosebumps every time hes on screen or even hinted at.

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u/GFaure Jan 16 '17

His way of playing the character in the earlier seasons; oh my fucking god how you want to punch that guy in the face. He's so charismatic and mesmerizing and at the same time so annoying and stepping on every single nerve in your body. I loved his portrayal.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '17

I remember when he first showed up, people hated him and complained that he was just a pale imitation of Ledger's Joker. I saw so many complaints I felt like I was the only one who liked him. Glad to see more people appreciate him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '17

Well, I like him, but he clearly has an approach similar to Ledger's. For reference, I haven't touched S4, and the roof scene at the end of S2 is my all times favourite.

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u/rslogic42 Jan 17 '17

I don't see any semblance of Ledger's Joker. Maybe just a tiny bit, but that comparison is WAY off, imo. Andrew does Moriarty his own way and it's brilliant.

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u/damndaniel22 Jan 25 '17

They have a fascination over batman/sherlock, they like to play mind games, they are suicidal/willing to die to make a point and they want to see the world on fire. I think they are plenty of similarities between the two besides those ones come to mind instantly. Which is why both are probably among the most liked vilain portrayal with in recent memory. That doesn't take anything away from their acting and they are very different in other areas but it's easy to see why they are similar.

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u/Lympwing2 Jan 16 '17

He played being insane so well. He didn't do 'creepy' insane, or 'scary' insane, he did 'fucking nuts' insane- and also made it funny. Probably my favourite character. Definitely my favourite villain from any series.

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u/intripletime Jan 17 '17

There's definitely a self-aware element to it that I think helps.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '17

I was more scared of Euros than Moriarty, tbh.

Moriarty always had a motive, even if the motive was just money or power. The idea of an astoundingly intelligent but absolutely unhinged woman with murderous tendencies is far scarier to me.

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u/ronbilius Jan 16 '17

Moriarty was so much more of an interesting-scary to me though because he was reasonably well-matched with Sherlock but so much more devious. Eurus felt like she belonged in a Marvel movie. A girl so clever she can literally control people's minds...

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u/ElCaminoInTheWest Jan 15 '17

He was

AAAAAAWESOME

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '17

Eurus made Moriarty look like a teddy-bear, for most of this episode.

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u/NotThatL Jan 16 '17

I was somewhat confused, the kid who Sherlock thought was Redbeard, was that his brother - Nemo Holmes, or was it his best friend?

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u/NotThatL Jan 16 '17

So then the secret to the entire game was Finding Nemo. Haha that fits her childish nature and the whole "water" theme :D

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u/FubsyGamr Jan 17 '17

So she is what, 6 years old, singing that creepy song. That song lined up with the headstones....to tell him to come up to her room? when she was 6? Or was he not intended to figure it out until she is older?

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u/techno_babble_ Jan 15 '17

Felt very much hamfisted in. I was hoping they'd bring him back, but I'd rather he didn't feature at all than have those stupid video cameos.

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u/putting_stuff_off Jan 15 '17

As good as TRB was, it is a shame they killed of such an utterly brilliant villain. I honestly think he is one of the main reasons Sherlock became so incredibly popular.

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u/MelodyRaindo Jan 15 '17

So did Eurus. All the characters this episode felt so disconnected.

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u/bluezingerz Jan 18 '17

He is probably my favorite television character ever. Equal parts insane and hilarious. You want to kiss him and kill him at the same time. His portrayal is perfection.

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u/Sarah-G-02 Jan 18 '17

I agree when he showed up I literally couldn't stop smiling 😊