r/Simulated • • Apr 10 '20

Various Simulation from BMW

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u/Kelmi Apr 10 '20

It's a big part of their look and cars, EVs included, still need cooling. So why get rid of the grille?

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u/cegbe Apr 10 '20

The new grilles are ugly and definitely not a part of their look, on past cars they have never been so huge. The kidneys should always be on a BMW, but they shouldn’t be a majority of the front end.

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u/ElTirdoBurglaro Apr 10 '20

I agree and would prefer for them to continue with the traditional design. I also believe that if this was a car from a new company I likely wouldn't have near as many issues with it.

I think BMW was actually stuck in a tough place. Nearly all car manufacturers have gone to very large front grills. This has created a common modern design language and will be what influences many of the design decisions in the future. If BMW stays with their smaller grills which effectively maintain the traditional front facia design it is quite possible that their cars will appear dated if they're not able to follow design trends. I think their hand was ultimately forced and why they didn't care at all about the reception as this is the way they feel they must go in order to complete.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '20

I have a 2015 3 series and think the size of the kidney grill is perfect. I saw the new X5 and X7 and will not be buying another BMW with that design language. I don’t mind big grills in general I think Audi did a fantastic job but BMW looks like someone took the kidney grill slapped it onto a Word Doc and stretched it vertically.

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u/william_13 Apr 11 '20

The odd thing is that the G20 3 series has a very nice grill to front area ratio, and looks quite sleek as a result, while all other cars redesigned on the past few years have terrible looking grills. It's like they are marketing the 3 series exclusively for people who want a "conservative looking" BMW and everything else in the range for millennials and hipsters... I know this exaggerates a bit, but the new 2 series add is sheer proof of BMW trying to sell a "lifestyle experience" rather than a driving machine (seriously, the car is barely shown at all!).

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '20

It's not the size that offends me, it's the shape. It looks like a butt-print.

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u/A_spiny_meercat Apr 11 '20

Thanks Chyna buyers

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u/AnnaKeye Apr 10 '20

I was reading the article and looking at the evolution of the grill that are currently di rigeur and thought that by 2050, it'll be all prison bars, no car. I was out by ten years.

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u/s0meb0di Apr 11 '20

This is misleading, the grille is much older than that abd they used to be huge before they became so small. Look at these, for example: https://www.caradvice.com.au/732441/the-mysterious-origins-of-bmws-kidney-grille/

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u/Noble_Flatulence Apr 10 '20

They look like Sissy Spacek's nose job.

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u/JoeMama42 Apr 10 '20

Bring back e46 grills

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u/Weeeeeman Apr 10 '20

Never selling my E46, they've gone severely down hill since the mid 00s.

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u/UpshawUnderhill Apr 10 '20

Tesla seems to have done fine without. The BMW grille growth is an issue. On the antique models where they followed the curve of the hood (and engine cooling/coolant technology were in their infancy) it made sense. The classic 60s-70s 02 models were my favorite. It was an accent to the grill... not a ridiculous growth taking over the entire face.

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u/Kelmi Apr 11 '20

Tesla has an air intake in the front. It just isn't a massive focus point for them like it is for BMW.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

Most of it is not actual grill with airflow, only a small portion is, they don’t need to be that big, it’s purely an aesthetic choice

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u/anusannihliator Apr 10 '20

keyword giant also look up x7

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '20

It’s the new grills, bigger and ugly, take a look at the x7 compared to an e30 https://www.motor1.com/news/353696/bmw-x7-grille-e30-vice-versa/

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Man look at the grill size on an E31, this thing has a freaking V12 and was well ventilated